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LOL, it's constant rates and ranks on Buzzjack, ain't it? :D This one was quite easy though, considering. Too many acts with little material or with a decent amount of material but no consistency with it. I mean, look at who I had to put at my #13! Much love to Holly but I shouldn't be forced to vote her the #13 ultimate female. 01 Mariah Carey 02 Björk 03 Amy Winehouse 04 Madonna 05 Cher 06 Janet Jackson 07 Corinne Bailey Rae 08 Kate Bush 09 Kelis 10 Lily Allen 11 Paloma Faith 12 Whitney Houston 13 Holly Valance 14 Beyoncé 15 Aaliyah 16 Siobhan Donaghy 17 Britney Spears 18 Christina Aguilera 19 Robyn 20 Lady Gaga 21 Marina & The Diamonds 22 Kelly Rowland 23 Katy B 24 Mel C 25 Nelly Furtado I basically hate everyone else, but... BITCHSLAP: Jennifer Lopez

+30 The Tamperer featuring Maya - Feel It :kink: Playground classic +25 All Saints - Black Coffee +22 Blondie - Heart Of Glass +20 Pitbull featuring Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give Me Everything +18 Spice Girls - Viva Forever +16 U2 - The Fly +14 Helen Shapiro - You Don't Know +13 Fugees - Ready Or Not +12 Britney Spears - Baby One More Time +11 Slade - Cum On Feel The Noize +10 Lily Allen - Smile +9 Usher - You Make Me Wanna +8 The Prodigy - Breathe +7 Elton John - Are You Ready For Love +6 Usher featuring Ludacris & Lil' Jon - Yeah! +5 Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World/Cabaret +4 The Rolling Stones - Honky Tonk Woman +3 Enya - Orinoco Flow +2 The Monkees - I'm A Believer +1 Calvin Harris - I'm Not Alone -2 St. Winifred's School Choir - There's No-one Quite Like Grandma I love this group! Could easily have gone to 30 or even 40 without struggling.

+30 The Righteous Brothers - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' +25 Beach Boys - Good Vibrations +22 Beats International - Dub Be Good To Me +20 Julie Covington - Don't Cry For Me Argentina +18 The Human League - Don't You Want Me +16 Craig David - Fill Me In +14 The Beatles - I Feel Fine +13 Culture Club - Karma Chameleon +12 Eminem - Lose Yourself +11 Spice Girls - Too Much +10 Rita Ora featuring Tinie Tempah - R.I.P. +9 Martine McCutcheon - Perfect Moment +8 Sonique - It Feels So Good +7 Wham! - Freedom +6 Jimmy Nail - Ain't No Doubt +5 The Searchers - Don't Throw Your Love Away +4 Norman Greenbaum - Spirit In The Sky +3 Steps - Heartbeat/Tragedy +2 Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) +1 Michael Jackson - One Day In Your Life -2 Jennifer Lopez - Get Right :angry: Fucking DIE! This cannot go through. Definitely the worst list so far, some absolute all-time pop standards up there to save it though.

Well, it's highly unlikely anything from before the '90s would be the fastest selling simply because most songs debuted low and then climbed back then... Is Whitney really the fastest selling though? I don't know why that surprises me, I guess I just never considered it, but I'm struggling to think of any other #3s that might have opened with such a high sale. How much did Denise & Johnny sell at Xmas '98 behind Spice Girls and Chef?

The odd one out in the top 10 is Whitney... WTF? I hardly ever hear anyone praise that song, in a similar way that the other 90s movie diva-ballad My Heart Will Go On is looked back on as a bit of an embarrassment. I bet if it had been done last year or next year it would be much lower. The winner will be Imagine probably. It did win the last time this was done with a TV poll, I think, but that was on Channel 4.

The Show brings back good memories for me. I remember watching the video premiere on Top of the Pops Saturday and I think it was the first time I had heard the song too, anyway it was instant love for me there. Then seeing them perform it at Summer XS about a week later (with those director's chairs!) was undoubtedly the highlight of that concert. Probably represents the peak of my interest in Girls Aloud, I guess. Say You'll Be There fell at the right time, I'd say. It's good, but it's not up with their best. What they excelled at was the peerless pop anthems and ballads - not the R&B-lite numbers - so it's fitting that their entries in the top 20 all represent either of those. Bit disappointed that Don't Let Go (Love) didn't make the top 20, I thought it would with its mini revival late last year helping to introduce it to a new generation. I probably should have put it at #1 on my chart to be honest but I dunno, Spice Up Your Life feels like it encapsulates everything great about girl groups to me and also has far more nostalgia with it being arguably the peak of "Spicemania" and all.

+30 David Bowie - Space Oddity +25 Charles & Eddie - Would I Lie To You? +22 Blu Cantrell featuring Sean Paul - Breathe +20 Modjo - Lady (Hear Me Tonight) +18 Edison Lighthouse - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) +16 Lady Gaga featuring Colby O'Donis - Just Dance +14 Bee Gees - Massachusetts +13 Eminem - The Real Slim Shady +12 Charlene - I've Never Been To Me +11 Culture Beat - Mr. Vain +10 Lady Gaga - Bad Romance +9 The Buggles - Video Killed The Radio Star +8 T. Rex - Telegram Sam +7 Geri Halliwell - It's Raining Men +6 Shapeshifters - Lola's Theme +5 t.A.T.u. - All The Things She Said +4 Olivia Newton John & The Electric Light Orchestra - Xanadu +3 JLS - Beat Again +2 Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor +1 D-Ream - Things Can Only Get Better -2 Bros - I Owe You Nothing An interesting group - a fairly great selection from the '00s, and also a handful of great pre '80s #1s for probably the first time in this game. But the middle decades ('80s and '90s, obviously) are really slim pickings here which pulls it down a bit. Still a strong group overall though, but maybe lacks standouts.

Overload is still god-damn PERFECT in all its understated glory.

Some TRAGIC crash-outs so far, though none overly surprising. Finally Found the most gutting and the first of my top 5 to fall, but when only a few late 90s nostalgia geeks remember/love it how well was it really going to do? I guess it's a pretty respectable placing considering. Angel of Mine, too, which should have been higher in my votes, but it would have only lifted it a few spots anyway. Not shocked to see Too Much the lowest Spice Girls song (apart from the ones that didn't even make the cut). I really like the way it almost swirls around in this entrancing state but there's not much to it apart from that. Stop should be the lowest, but I have noticed its baffling popularity in some places - why I will never understand, when it's easily the least distinctive single from their '90s hey-day, but oh well. Hopefully it isn't top 20 anyway. Most of the '00s entries are in their rightful places really. Buttons should be a bit higher perhaps, but not drastically so.

I think most people consider a girl group to be an ALL-FEMALE group (with no prominent, regular male members), which Heart never were. They were a female-fronted rock band - big difference. I believe male members were even in the majority in their most famous line-ups. Some people wouldn't include Heart because of their genre, regardless of the gender of the members. Both reasons why nobody even considered them, I'd wager.

I was referring to the #1s that spent only a week ahead of Moves Like Jagger. Reading back I can see how you thought otherwise though.

Late 2010 was awful, wasn't it? So many horrendous songs contending for the top spot. And yes, that top 2 is possibly for worst I can ever remember - maybe Frankee and Eamon in 2004 comes close if only for sheer ridiculousness but they both have more musical merit IMO. I can't think of anything worse, but feel free to refresh my memory of any. I wonder how many "non #1s" in 2011 I'll never have heard of. :o It's a shame Aloe Blacc has no chance of a promotion here as he was behind Pitbull the entire time when he moved 4-3-2-5. Give Me Everything is awesome though, no complaints. Hard to muster up much enthusiasm for 2011 when I never cared much when it was ongoing. The question is how many weeks will Moves Like Jagger get - at least 5? Looking at the sales for #1 in 2011, One Direction are probably the only near enough cert to "defend" their #1 from it.

Oh dear at Cee Lo Green being demoted. Talk about undoing all the good work in 2010 before with one fell swoop. :snif: The best #1 of the year IMO.

Unfortunately, Eric_Blob is right. Despite the affect the internet has had on music and the way it can be discovered, shared, etc, I haven't seen any evidence that radio programmers have significantly less control on the charts than it has in the past. At best social media, VEVO and the rest can help less established acts get hits much lower down the chart, but certainly not in the tens of thousands needed to make the upper reaches of the chart without decent radio support. Probably because the country is full of lazy people like me. :D

What has happened to Roll Deep? People will be so baffled when they look back at 2010 and see they had not one but two chart toppers, both with completely of-the-moment songs cashing in on the "grime artists doing electronic pop" trend. Ironically, I remember Green Light very well though, certainly better than Good Times anyway. I was on holiday at the time and the bar had their TV on a music channel for a good portion of the morning/afternoon that kept playing the video. <_< That and Club Can't Handle Me. Beautiful Monster is a typical case of a #1 more out of favour than anything else indeed. No complaints about most of the 2010 demotions so far, this thread is doing a fairly nice "tidy up" job on this year to make it look vaguely presentable, or as much as possible in these circumstances. :D

Another one with the top 4 was on week-ending 24th March 2001, when the top 5 was: 01. (-) Hear'Say - Pure And Simple (YE #2) 02. (1) Westlife - Uptown Girl (YE #6) 03. (2) Shaggy - It Wasn't Me (YE #1) 04. (3) Atomic Kitten - Whole Again (YE #4) 05. (4) Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (YE #12) And another very close one on week-ending 9th December 1995: 01. (-) Michael Jackson - Earth Song (YE #6) 02. (1) Robson & Jerome - I Believe/Up On The Roof (YE #3) 03. (2) Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise (YE #2) 04. (3) Everything But The Girl - Missing (YE #9) 05. (4) Boyzone - Father And Son (YE #13) I can't think of anything off-hand with that situation in the entire top 5 though. Maybe in the 1950s/60s/70s, but I know little about the charts from those decades.

You know, I just checked that to see if it was true as like you I found it hard to believe, and it is. But even more bizarrely the following week it completely disappeared from the chart for two weeks, then came back and climbed into the top 3 again. What the hell is that all about?! :lol: Full chart run from australian-charts.com: 21/12/1997: N 45. 28/12/1997: 23. 04/01/1998: 17. 11/01/1998: 12. 18/01/1998: 7. 25/01/1998: 4. 01/02/1998: 3. 08/02/1998: 2. 15/02/1998: 1. 22/02/1998: 1. 01/03/1998: 1. 08/03/1998: 1. 15/03/1998: 24. 05/04/1998: R 35. 12/04/1998: 10. 19/04/1998: 3. 26/04/1998: 3. 03/05/1998: 3. 10/05/1998: 4. 17/05/1998: 3. 24/05/1998: 7. 31/05/1998: 8. 07/06/1998: 14. 14/06/1998: 21. 21/06/1998: 29. 28/06/1998: 45.

Well of course I know something, at least most of the big hits, through unfortunately catching them on the radio at least once or twice. But certainly my knowledge of the last two years in charts is pathetic compared to the 90s and the 00s where I pretty much know everything that reached the top 40 (and between about 2003 and 2007 I basically know everything that got a full release, as I used to go out of my way to check all the singles on the release schedule). I don't have as much time as when I was a sad student with no life and bunking off school though, particularly when I have other interests. Mind you, if the current music I actually heard engaged me in any way I would be able to make some time. :D

Who in God's name is Sak Noel? Airplanes is a horrible song - cheesy, cliched, predictable, lame rap. All Time Low is foul as well with that hideous station/presentation/reservation rhyme and the laughable faux-trance section. I still get afflicted with it regularly on my local radio station on the way to work even now. Why me?! :cry: As for The Club Is Alive - well, I don't think anything needs to be said there, what a joke. 2010 was an absolutely rubbish year for pop, safely the worst of the 21st century thus far with 2002. No wonder I fell out of touch with the charts again after that.

+30 Rihanna featuring Jay-Z - Umbrella +25 Bee Gees - I've Gotta Get A Message To You +22 Adamski featuring Seal - Killer +20 Gabrielle - Rise +18 The Streets - Dry Your Eyes +16 Shakespear's Sister - Stay +14 Blondie - Maria +13 Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way +12 Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun Goes Down +11 Tinchy Stryder featuring N-Dubz - Number 1 +10 Livin' Joy - Dreamer +9 Emile Ford & The Checkmates - What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For? +8 a-ha - The Sun Always Shines On TV +7 S Club 7 - Bring It All Back +6 Dave Edmund's Rockpile - I Hear You Knocking +5 The Hollies - I'm Alive +4 Ben E. King - Stand By Me +3 Sandie Shaw - (There's) Always Something There To Remind Me +2 B*Witched - To You I Belong +1 Spiller featuring Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Groovejet (If This Ain't Love) -2 Winifred Atwell - Let's Have Another Party

Love Run This Town but it was an extremely random #1. It's not even that commercial really in that its sound is a little bit "harsh" compared to most of the usual big rap hits. As much as I like it, it probably only sold on the artists involved and a fairly quiet week so a deserved demotion. At least it did the deed of keeping Get Sexy off in the 'real world' which I was very grateful to it for at the time. :wub:

Agreed!! I've been listening to it loads lately after being reminded of it from another thread in this forum a few weeks ago. Sooo goddamn good. On the thread topic, I can think of many reasons why pretty much everybody mentioned here flopped but I guess it's easy to see these things in hindsight. :heehee: But come on, 90% of these just did not have the charisma to be a solo act that the public could connect to on a personal level and weren't even expected to be successful even before they begun their bid for solo stardom. Frankly as a fan of hers I was thrilled with how Shaznay did with Never Felt Like This Before at the time. In theory though, above all else, the basis to a successful solo career is this: when you turn solo you basically have to prove yourself all over again. You might get one or two "fanbase" sorta hits off the back of your fame but eventually it will be ever diminishing returns and if you don't have the tunes to back it up you're gone. Essentially you have a limited time to prove yourself - let's say about a year, and you need that HUGE song to set you up within that period. That's what Robbie had with Angels, what Justin had with Cry Me A River, what Cheryl had with Fight For This Love, etc. That's not what, say, Gary Barlow had. If he had the inspiration to write Back For Good one or two years later as a solo hit things could have been so different for him. Instead we get Forever "where the f*** is the chorus in this tedious bore?" Love. :lol: I think taking everything into account (the level of fame of the group, their role, the expectation prior, etc.), then Nadine Coyle is probably the biggest flop. But at the same time as soon as I heard Insatiable I knew it wasn't going to work as above all else the song is piss weak and flat as anything.

Don't Stop Movin' and Hips Don't Lie both had two separate runs at #1 here I think. It tends to be very likely when a song returns to #1 after a gap of more than a week because it means that the song(s) that had been stopping it is guaranteed to have outsold it for the majority of the three weeks counted in this system, whereas a song that had a one-week interruption would have only been outsold for one out of the three in almost every case and thus would get an uninterrupted run instead.

It's not that bad, no, but it undoubtedly had an affect on an even worse record, Kid f***ing Rock, getting to #1 later in the year... Amazing chart run at the time. Probably the first really exciting download chart run that could have never happened before - watching it take off after the Christmas songs f***ed off after hanging around going nowhere for a while and just grow and grow as popularity as more people discovered it was fascinating regardless of the thoughts of the record. Plus I have to say I absolutely love it when the biggest hit from the album occurs later in the campaign and reverses the fortunes of the entire album, doesn't happen often enough and is more rare these days unfortunately.

Girlfriend?! Another awful promotion then. :puke2: Hopefully we'll have the prospect of an actual good song getting promoted tomorrow. I think Foundations should be safe to nudge in a solitary week on Umbrella's last official week, where it only narrowly lost to Rihanna and then again to Timbaland the following week with a relatively big increase in sales (which should be able to cancel out Rihanna being ahead for two of the weeks that count under this system).