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White Town outperformed my expectations by far (I even posted in the 1997 rounds that I was gutted how crap I thought it was doing just from scanning the votes, but evidently I was wrong as it went on to qualify!)... adore it. And thanks to Wiley, even though you murdered it, for perhaps latching some of the younger members on to the song, otherwise maybe it wouldn't have found its way this high on the countdown. Blondie :wub: I have to say it was incredibly difficult to leave it out of my votes. It was one of the last songs I deleted when whittling down my list of 24 (I think!) songs that I decided could have a place in my top 10 :( Love them, and Maria will always have a special place in my heart as the first song I ever heard by them (naturally, given my age). Chuffed it did so well here. The Prodigy at #18... I'd say that's just about the right place for them, actually.

If anyone's interested, the Nowmusic channel on YouTube has uploaded loads of adverts that were previously not uploaded or only there in shorter form (i.e. 10 seconds) :D For some reason they missed out on 41, though, which was only there in 10 second form previously :( They also missed 40, but a 30-second clip of that one has been uploaded before, so that's not really a problem.

Wot a flop from All Saints :( Evidently it's clear this site is full of SPICE GIRLS loons. Surprised Meat Loaf is so high :blink: I was shocked it even made the final tbh, let alone coming in the top half (just!) I was the only one to vote for The Clash. Tragically low places for Adamski, Run-DMC (though they didn't make my votes), Fugees, Babylon Zoo, Olive & Oasis, too! I really have no idea who is going to win this. From the votes it didn't seem like any song was getting loads of high points, so I'd guess it's pretty close at the top, and some of the lower votes have been quite instrumental in deciding the winner. Also, great to see Coolio, White Town and Blur top 20 especially!!

I think you might be right there. According to this chart scan at the time, the version of Shout at #41 was released on Jive, and the #51 on Decca: http://scans.chartarchive.org/UK/1986/30%2...M%20Singles.jpg And after a tiny bit of research, the original version of Shout was indeed released on Decca: In actual fact, Columbia (EMI) turned down Lulu and The Luvvers, the first record company they approached for a deal, but no matter. Within weeks, they were signed up by Decca and made their first single, 'Shout', a raw version of the old Isley Brothers US hit of 1959, which Lulu had enthused over when she heard Alex Harvey singing it several months before. http://www.lulu.co.uk/biography1.htm Mystery solved!! :lol:

Isn't this thread just blatant spam disguised as a semi-relevant chart topic?

It wasn't an error - it was a fourth format which broke chart rules. Only 3 physical formats are allowed to count towards one chart entry :) As the 12" was released a week later it was the one that wasn't allowed to be combined to the higher entry at #2 that week. No idea about Lulu though - never read about that one before :D

GROUP A - This is the first group in one of these things I actually have a vague amount of affection for. 01 Kanye West - All Of The Lights 02 Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag (early 00s :heart:) 03 Britney Spears - Till The World Ends 04 Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow 05 Mann featuring 50 Cent - Buzzin' 06 Glee Cast - Thriller / Heads Will Roll 07 McFly - That's The Truth 08 Susan Boyle & Geraldine McQueen - I Know Him So Well 09 Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough 10 LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem 11 Breakage featuring Jessie Mills - Fighting Fire 12 Katy Perry featuring Kanye West - E.T. GROUP B - This group generally is not good. 01 Jeremih featuring 50 Cent - Down On Me 02 Cee Lo Green featuring Wiz Khalifa - Bright Lights, Bigger City 03 Birdy - Skinny Love 04 Snoop Dogg & David Guetta - Sweat 05 Foo Fighters - Rope 06 Parade - Louder 07 Glee Cast - Hey Soul Sister 08 Olly Murs - Heart On My Sleeve 09 Nicole Scherzinger - Don't Hold Your Breath 10 The Wanted - Gold Forever 11 George Michael - True Faith (:()

I hope so. It's brilliant :D But I'm not sure if it has the same wide appeal of Kickstarts, to be honest. That song was just massive. Yeah, Blue were basically the third(?) incarnation of urban-pop boybands, after Damage and Another Level. Now JLS have that niché, so it will be interesting to see how Blue do with subsequent singles. I'm picturing more of an All Saints-esque comeback for them, personally, with one hit and then almost nothing else. I'm not convinced there's really any need for them anymore - especially since I Can seems to be moving straight to the same kind of sound of many of the British hits like JLS, Tinie Tempah, etc. So Eurovision will definitely probably get them at least a top 10 comeback but I think they need a lot of work to last another decent run. Blue were very big albums-wise, though, which I always found slightly odd personally. Weren't their first 2 albums both million-sellers? :o I remember One Love especially selling ridiculously fast over Christmas 2002. But yeah, you're right, Boyzone were generally bigger overall.

Jennifer Lopez - Get Right. What an utter racket, to be honest. And yay for Candy Shop going! Westlife will definitely go this round, obv. The first 8 rounds of this has been the most predictable start to any of these games yet (although 2007 was also v. predictable) :lol:

Traktor wasn't that hyped? He was hardly getting attention thrown at him like Jessie J, lol. But I can think of several reasons why Unorthodox will do better than Traktor, off the top of my head: 1) It has Example on it, therefore reaching out to people who might not have bought it otherwise. It helps significantly that Example himself has wide appeal. Compare that to the mysterious "L" who literally wouldn't have attracted anybody new to the song, whoever he is. 2) Unorthodox is much poppier and 'light' in style/sound; in comparison to the brash, in-your-face urban sound of Traktor. This will also see it getting broader and stronger appeal. Several people who hated Traktor seem to like this one, for example. 3) It samples a very well-known song (Fools' Gold by The Stone Roses). This is always a good thing as it evokes familarity from the first listen, brings more attention to the song (whether positive or not), etc. 4) Lack of competiton. This means that Unorthodox could potentially get to #1 by only selling ~40% more than what Traktor sold in its first week, which is definitely possible when you consider the other reasons. It could also mean that many people who might not have bought Unorthodox if there were several main releases out that week will now buy it because there's only a couple (if that makes any sense outside my head) - this probably won't make *too* significant a difference, though. Traktor was released on a very competitive week, and one with several other urban releases, too. 5) It will get more radio airplay and faster now that Wretch 32 is at least slightly established on radio. Traktor didn't even make the top 50 on radio before release; Unorthodox likely will (it's already not far outside and jumped hugely last week). Not saying it will definitely get to #1 - but I'll be surprised if it didn't outpeak Traktor, honestly, or at least sell more than it first week. And feel free to add any other reasons if anyone else thinks of any! :D

:lol: :P But yeah, maybe something from Britain's Got Talent will pop up ala Mint Royale in 2008. That's the only other major event soon that could pull of something like that I can think of right now. Thanks! So Blue's best chance of #1 would likely be on the chart dated w/e 28th May. Seems a bit far in advance to judge that - there'll be loads of stuff unannounced popping up by then. Especially with the new on air, on sale thing.

I think J-Lo for the next 3 weeks - unless she's seriously front-loaded. At the moment it's impossible to tell. Obviously she's front-loaded to some extent but we have no idea if it'll be Promise This-stylee or Only Girl-stylee. Then Wretch 32 will knock her off, but I doubt he'll last longer than a week, or sell that much to get to #1. Really no idea who could knock him off. When is Eurovision this year? Isn't it usually mid-May? Blue could storm to No. 1 on iTunes if we win the contest but it depends if it will get good support from Radio 1, etc as to whether it could last there long enough to get No. 1 officially. But if we don't win it will probably 'only' get top 10. Lady Gaga - depends if they release it at the start of the week rather than some bizarre release on the Friday like last time. I think there'll be a #1 nobody expects or knows about yet somewhere along the line in the next ~2 months. I'd love to see a proper slow burn to #1. Those are my absolute favourite types of chart runs.

I broadly see your point on George Harrison and the Elvis stuff, but I just can't on Queen and Three Lions for the reasons I already stated above. They are different releases/songs, and have no reason whatsoever to be separated. For all we know everyone who bought the 1991 re-issue of Bohemian Rhapsody could have bought it for These Are The Days of Our Lives. I don't agree with combining the sales of them either, but eh, that's already been done for years now in Queen's case, and now recently in Three Lions case. And the difference between songs returning to No. 1 in the same run and ones like George Harrison is that the former types were never even taken out of the shop. The latter entries were out of print for many years, and then re-released for whatever reason. It's a very different thing to nowadays where My Sweet Lord probably would have rocketed to #1 on iTunes without having to be re-released like what happened with MJ a couple of years ago. So essentially, it WAS treated as the same as every other new release, and sent out to the shops with a new CD, probably a different tracklisting (not sure about this, as I don't own the 1971 one), etc. The fact that the lead track was the exact same that got to #1 in 1971 is irrelevant in this case.

+15 Coolio feat. LV - Gangsta's Paradise +12 All Saints - Never Ever +10 White Town - Your Woman +8 Blur - Beetlebum +6 Adamski feat. Seal - Killer +5 Oasis - Some Might Say +4 Sinéad O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U +3 The KLF feat. The Children of the Revolution - 3AM Eternal +2 The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go +1 Spice Girls - Viva Forever Incredibly difficult. I had a list of 23 songs that I love here that I had to pain-stakingly whittle down to 10 :( -2 ATB - 9PM (Till I Come)

What is with your attempts to re-write history with this? It's v. annoying. For starters, the Queen song was an AA-side in 1991, so should definitely not be treated as the same #1. These Are The Days Of Our Lives had not even been released before that and was a completely new song, and also got just as much attention from that release as Bohemian Rhapsody did. And the Three Lions 1996 and 1998 versions are quite different, at least lyrically and the general feel of the tracks. The 1996 version is far more historical-based, referencing the past greats of English football and hoping that the current team can do what they did. The 1998 version basically only talks about the then current English side and implies how they're certain to win with such a "good" team. Different lyrics, different implications. I have no idea who decided to combine them at the OCC but it was probably some moron who has never even listened to the songs. Either way, they definitely shouldn't be considered the same #1, and there's no evidence the OCC even do consider them the same #1 when they were released with a different catalogue number, different video, etc. For example, the OCC has ALWAYS combined the sales of the 1975/1991 versions of Bohemian Rhapsody, but never treated them as the same #1. When they published their best-sellers of all-time in 2002, the sales were combined. At the same time they had a numbered list of #1s on their site and they were not combined, and counted in their tally separately, rather than as a 're-entry' at number one. So therefore I would guess they'd do the same with Three Lions now.

Avoiding pointless discussion that adds absolutely nothing and only serves to bore the pants off anyone else who reads it would only be a good thing, yes. This is literally the only forum I've ever seen where someone could read a 30-minute discussion from somebody stemming from a person saying that they hope x and y track gets cherry-picked. It's a TEDIOUS discussion. There can be GOOD discussion here, though, but lately all I seem to see is the above kind. But like I said, maybe I should just stop reading this thread rather than complaining :D

It's not that I don't like it as such. I just find it tedious how one simple comment seems to be drawn into a page long discussion every time I look in this thread. But whatever, if that's what people want to do, then who am I to stop them :lol: But honestly, if people stopped being so picky it could really be avoided almost every time. But was it A-List on a station like Radio 1 in the US? :lol: I wouldn't really take much from that to be honest. A helluva lot of rock singles do better here than in the US.

Quite the opposite to my reaction when I first heard it then (which would definitely have been when it was announced as the #1, as I almost never heard songs before they charted at that point) - which was probably akin to this emoticon => :mellow: :lol: Mind you, half of that probably would have been disappointment as back then I would get excited to hear the #1 as I usually trusted the public's taste (:lol:!) enough for it to be something good. I can understand why people like it, I guess, but it's not my bag at all :( I actually almost gave it my -2 last round but decided that nothing is more odious than Cliff in the end. That said, it's my least favourite song currently in the final, but I have a feeling the ever horrendous Puff Daddy will get a wildcard anyway so that will spare ATB there too. Great to see Babylon Zoo, Cher and Blur looking like they'll make the final :D Poor Shoop Shoop though - I should have given it points! It's a good cover IMO.

God, who the hell CARES about cherry-picking... this thread is unbelievably tedious these days. Anyway, on the subject of what is out tonight, surely Panic! At The Disco will at least go top 40? It's been getting a lot of airplay on Radio 1. I'm sure it will at least go top 100 anyway. Also, on the subject of Radio 1, I am VERY surprised they're ignoring Milk & Sugar :huh: The song has still had decent video support/some radio airplay on other stations but R1 really could have pushed it up into the top 10. Shame.

This is out on Monday? Why are the release dates this era so mucked up? Really don't understand anything they've done this time around. Surely it would have made more sense to release it either 1) after Hold It Against Me; or 2) when the promo tail of Till The World Ends was roughly at its peak. Anyway, who knows. Blackout still sold 42k first week and that didn't exactly have a massive hit leading into it here either. I think this will do slightly worse first week sales-wise but I still think it can manage in the region of 30k at least. I think it might scrape the top 5 but as others have said it won't have much longevity unless Till The World Ends takes off in a big way right as it starts to move down.

+15 Adamski feat. Seal - Killer +12 Blur - Beetlebum +10 Cher - Believe +8 Armand Van Helden - U Don't Know Me +6 Charles & Eddie - Would I Lie To You? +5 Fugees - Killing Me Softly +4 Babylon Zoo - Spaceman +3 Run DMC vs Jason Nevins - It's Like That +2 Mariah Carey - Without You +1 Jimmy Nail - Ain't No Doubt -2 Puff Daddy - I'll Be Missing You Quite easy, really. The final will be ridiculously hard though. Decided to give my +15 to the song that needed it more, rather than the one I love the most. Sorry to Blur and Cher :lol:

I find it hard to relate to that, to be honest. I've never hated a song from it being played too much :o Well, at least not one I liked. I dunno though. I still think the hatred of it is absolutely ridiculous. It wasn't my favourite track here (far from it), but based on quality it didn't deserve to go joint third. The Nizlopi hatred goes back to what I said before - BuzzJack hates these kind of ballads/slow songs with guitars and such in it :lol: Really reminds me of Xmas '05 though - along with Fairytale of New York as it was re-released for the first time in a while that year. Would have been a classic Xmas top 2 if X Factor didn't get in the way!

Looks like Nizlopi will probably go this round, again :( At least they did (slightly) better than 2006. I really don't understand BuzzJack's mass hatred of guitar-led ballads/slow songs. They seem to automatically go out in the first 10 or so rounds of these games, guaranteed. I can understand Hey There Delilah because the singer's voice is pretty whiny, but Nizlopi is just lovely? And You're Beautiful really didn't deserve to go out already. Seriously, if that song had debuted at #12 and then dropped off instead of climbed, nobody would hate it. In fact, I seem to recall almost universal love just before it charted, and once it charted, with people cheering for it to go to #1, and then it gets to #1 and suddenly there's mass hatred. Whatever. People are weird. Also, I was just looking at the thread for the last round, and NO WAY will Mariah Carey win, lol. For starters, it's a ballad, so it will probably get picked on halfway for being boring (even though it's clearly not). Secondly, it's an URBAN ballad, and urban is not a popular genre of music here. Thirdly, Mariah gets a mass of hate on this site (and in general), probably for her sometimes OTT vocals, I guess. Although her vocal on We Belong Together is hardly OTT. :lol: But still, those Mariah h8rs are rabid(!!) Anyway, I voted for Candy Shop for the fourth time.

10 If You Had My Love ?? No Me Ames (with Marc Anthony) 05 Waiting For Tonight 10 Feelin' So Good (featuring Big Pun and Fat Joe) 07 Let's Get Loud 06 Love Don't Cost A Thing 04 Play 08 Ain't It Funny 07 I'm Real 05 I'm Real (Murder Remix) (featuring Ja Rule) 11 Ain't It Funny (Murder Remix) (featuring Ja Rule and Caddillac Tah) 08 I'm Gonna Be Alright (Track Masters Remix) (featuring Nas) ?? Alive 00 Jenny from the Block (featuring Styles P and Jadakiss) 09 All I Have (featuring LL Cool J) 05 I'm Glad 08 Baby I Love U! -1 Get Right 07 Hold You Down (featuring Fat Joe) 06 Qué Hiciste 09 Me Haces Falta ?? Por Arriesgarnos (with Marc Anthony) 05 Do It Well 08 Hold It, Don't Drop It 03 Louboutins 08 On The Floor (featuring Pitbull)

The version of Amarillo released in 2005 WAS the original version, as far as I know. The only difference was the video, but Tony Christie's vocal was just lifted from the original track. So yes, it's a 1971 song in every way except the video :lol: Although the oldest song here technically I think is Nancy Sinatra's vocals on Shot You Down, which are from the 1960s!! Hopefully that means it won't get hatred chucked at it soon for being so old-fashioned :cry: And gosh, a 3-way tie. Are we going to kick them all out? I'll be sad to see Amarillo go, but we might as well.