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Linkin Park - interest has been declining in them commercially for years and they're pretty much a fanbase-led band by now (and even that seems to be dwindling). Doubt they'll have another hit. Manic Street Preachers - they've been a fanbase band for about 10 years now, it's just physicals dying out has screwed them over even more in chart terms. Apart from that there's really no difference to what they were like in, let's say, 2005. My Chemical Romance - they could potentially have another hit (unlike the other two), but it depends. Were they just lucky to be active when that kind of music was booming? :lol: We'll see. And Maroon 5 are NOT rock, or even "indie". They're a straight up pop group (or pop/rock at best)... and their music hasn't changed a bit since 2004 so no surprise they flopped eventually.

Rihanna - Unfaithful... :puke2: The worst song of 2006 full stop, let alone on this list.

TOP 10 Eminem singles (not counting singles he featured on, otherwise Forgot About Dre would be #1!): 1. The Real Slim Shady 2. Guilty Conscience (feat. Dr Dre) 3. Stan (feat. Dido) 4. Lose Yourself 5. The Way I Am 6. My Name Is 7. Just Don't Give A Fuck 8. Cleanin' Out My Closet 9. Sing For The Moment 10. Not Afraid

My Name Is was a #2, not a #1 (unfortunately, as it's one of his best!) Replace with the crappy Just Lose It (plus, Smack That as Brayfish said) and your list is right :(

I don't think we'd be going back that far for it to be an issue :o Although I'd love to do the 90s ones as it's my favourite decade, but I was under the impression it was only going to be maybe a 10 year thing and then some kind of best of thing? Or did I just make that up? We'd be here forever going back that far unless the game was sped up at some point :( Plus, I don't think there'd be much interest in pre-2000 ones, as a lot of people here would be too young to remember anything but the absolute biggest hits...

:kink: Maybe we need a separate poll to vote on this? I guess you could do it to keep songs in the years they were released if that bothers people that much, but then you'd have to do some kind of odd crossover thing and take both Nizlopi and Shayne out of this poll, whilst keeping Snow Patrol and Take That in, and then go on normally taking songs from the previous years out from there in the other games. Or keeping things as they are on this poll, but taking Nizlopi and Shayne out of the 2005 one, whilst also taking the 2004 songs out (although I don't think there are any in 2005, from what I can tell) but then sticking to the years of release after that would make more sense and be a bit less messy.

I do have a slightly ulterior motive for arguing against the idea of leaving two songs in the same year, as in 2003 Sugababes was the #43 biggest-seller with Hole In The Head, but if you removed all the 2002 entries it would have been #40 :( It upsets me muchly that it won't be on the poll for that year so I can't cheer it to victory. I genuinely think it would have won, too *sobbing*

I would like to see the full physical chart, if only to see some of the lower entries... is it still published in Music Week? Or ChartsPlus?

More complex? It would exactly be the same except a couple of different songs would be put in? :lol: Didn't realise that would be such a huge strain on anyone here. Apologiez. And that's being incredibly anal again - it really makes no difference in the context of this game which is based on how much the song is liked, not how much it sold. People vote on how much they like the song NOW at the end of the day, not how much they liked it then. But seriously, my last post about this now. I'm tempted to cheer for Bad Romance in the 2010 game now though :lol: (kidding...)

It's the same thing again. It makes no difference if the #41 song is put in, in fact it makes more sense than having two songs in both games. If it bothers you that much then perhaps a title change is in order. But seriously, I give up on this because 1) nothing is going to change so it's pointless and 2) I should probably take my own advice as I'm starting to sound like I'm taking it too seriously :D

Well I hate Katy Perry and care little about Rihanna, so I certainly would be complaining! Funny how you assume I have generic BJ taste which is quite far from the truth. The only reason I didn't complain before is because, as I said, I didn't notice before. And absolutely Bad Romance should be taken out of the 2010 game, too, and with even more good reason since it already won the 2009 one! And why do you people take this thing so seriously? :lol: Yes, the game is called "least favourite of xxxx's best selling singles" but that doesn't mean we have to stick to it so strictly and go against the actual common sense approach... it makes no logical sense to leave these songs in for two years except to be "proper". Pointless.

I highly doubt Take That or Snow Patrol will do any better in 2006. They're simply not liked songs. Chasing Cars looks like it'll probably go out in the first 10 rounds again. Same with Nizlopi and Shayne, both will flop in 2006 and 2005. I do actually like the Nizlopi song (mainly because it takes me right back to Xmas '05) but it's not going to be popular on BJ, and Shayne is an X Factor winners' single which always do terribly in these games. I could understand your point if one year was more fiercely competitive than the other, but frankly it's not. In every year BJ on average will have a fairly split like/dislike in regards to portions of the list because the chart by design is supposed to represent many different tastes, plus there's always an overlap in two years that are next to each other. The kind of records that are on both lists are typically firmly in camp "BJ hatred" and didn't underachieve at all. People hate CC because it's overplayed and people just don't like Patience for whatever reasons (trying to avoid saying anything about gender here... :lol:)... none of this is going to change and you can put in songs that haven't even had a chance to compete but might actually be popular. Who cares about consistency? :lol: This is an internet poll, not some parliamentary vote. It means nothing. To hell with consistency in this case.

Girls Aloud beat Sugababes? :o How the hell. Woah @ Life Got Cold reaching #2, higher than many GA classics! I do love LGC though, but that's odd as it's a very forgotten single by them. And wow indeed at In Da Club. Biggest-selling single of 2003 there?

To be honest I didn't even notice it before but you're right! Sex On Fire was in 2008 and 2009. Maybe from now on you could take them out though? It seems silly to leave them in for two years in a row when you could give a couple of other songs a chance. To be honest I wouldn't object to Snow Patrol and Take That both being taken out of this game and replaced in the next round but I guess since it's already started it's probably not exactly fair. Maybe for the rest of the years it could be done though? Like I think Nizlopi and Shayne Ward are in the 2005 top 40, too, so they can be removed from that one as they're already being put up here in 2006...

What was the point of Chasing Cars being here anyway? It should have been kicked out and the #41 should have been let in (which, just checking now, was Chamillionaire - Ridin' which would have FLOPPED HARD on BJ [despite it being amazing] but that's besides the point).

My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade Please don't let Rihanna win guyz. SOS is frankly $h!t. Or the subpar Girls Aloud single. EDIT: Oh noes! I just noticed Unfaithful is on there too. Should have voted for it instead :( Ah well, next round.

Swear It Again was my 'favourite', but I still wouldn't rush to listen to it, or say it deserved #1. It is one of only four Westlife singles to last for a second week I suppose, although that was purely due to pitiful competition (the only new top 10 entries that week were the Offspring's totally forgettable follow-up to PF(FAWG) and Cast!! :drama:) Flying Without Wings is probably their most enduring though, I guess, and surely one of the only ones of the 14 the public would even be able to name.

Westlife (or should I say, their management) were very good at playing the charts tactically and forecasting things to achieve their #1 singles. They nearly always timed their releases very well to release at the perfect time when they could get to #1 with a lower sales than normally needed. In fact, in the latter half (last six months) of 1999, the only two #1s that sold less than 100,000 in their first week were both Westlife songs! Talk about a coincidence - or not. Although I shouldn't be too harsh on Westlife about this, as pretty much all the major British pop acts did this. They rarely released against each other, avoided other big competition, and timed their releases so they would knock each other off #1 whilst they appeared on all the kids TV shows like Live & Kicking, SMTV Live etc. Geri Halliwell, Five, Billie Piper, Steps, S Club 7, B*Witched and the rest were also guilty of doing it at various times. It's why the prestige of the #1 spot in the late 90s and early 00s is widely considered to be a bit of a joke by most people who followed the charts at that time, and definitely contributed somewhat to it changing so often. But Westlife were by far the biggest beneficiaries of this - so I'm quite happy to sling the mud their way for it. Their tally of 14 #1s is truly the biggest joke in chart history and borderline disgusts me to be honest :(

Robyn for the win. So I'm voting Umbrella. It's an amazing final 2 indeed, by the way. Could have been better out of the final 10 though (Robyn vs The Way I Are)... although out of the whole top 40 my personal preference would have been Robyn vs Kate Nash. Either way, Robyn is definitely the best song in any combination, so would be a very worthy winner.

Surely a song only becomes significant in chart terms by having success/longevity though? :lol: I don't know about you, but I never thought "oh, this definitely sounds like the biggest-selling single of the year" when I heard Bleeding Love or Love The Way You Lie for the first time. A song builds its way to that kind of reputation by amassing several weeks of big sales or having impressive longevity. Anyway, it's way too early to start speculating on these kind of things. I mean, a lot of people probably would have said Fireflies could have been the biggest-selling single of 2010 this time last year, but it kind of passed on too quickly in the end. The same could happen to Price Tag. Plus, as Eric said, X Factor is still to come and that tends to drive sales up heavily.

I don't see Robbie Willams on that list or in the first post, unless I'm blind... he's probably not as successful in Ireland as he is here but I can't imagine him not being in the top 100 full stop either way, so I'm guessing he's the missing act. Oh, and: Jay-Z Britney Westlife Sugababes P!nk Nelly Akon Gaga

I think most artists care about their own country the most, regardless of how little or big they are. Even Adele said on Newsbeat the other day that nothing compares to doing well in your own country, and that's someone who has actually tasted success over in the US. Although someone like Natasha Bedingfield seems to prefer US success, giving how she's totally f***ed off and left us now. I guess every country has its runts of the litter. I do think British artists could benefit from this more though regardless, as they're more likely to try to do anything to get their releases up (maybe like releasing the video at the same time as Jessie J did), whilst American acts will just release it at the same time as they do on US iTunes and do nothing apart from that. Plus in America they never release their singles on Sundays it seems, but more in the middle of the week or Monday/Tuesday so obviously they'll lose sales there. Although maybe they'll start releasing their singles on Sunday here once this scheme really sets into place, but right now most American early releases seem to be all over the week! Whereas British acts will probably wisely release on the Sunday to get the full sales week advantage. So we could still potentially see the same kind of trend we saw in 2010 with front-loaded British #1s, perhaps, and then American long-runners. I'm just speculating though, to be fair, but it makes sense to me.

Are you forgetting that: Lady Gaga only debuted at #14 with Bad Romance Black Eyed Peas only debuted at #11 Britney Spears only debuted at #6 All after being released early. And these are all MEGA acts, so chances are it probably won't be the future. Although maybe I'm wrong. One thing that will be different is that they wouldn't be held back by front-loaded releases with bigger sales, but Britney still only sold like 30-something k (can't remember how much exactly) which probably wouldn't have got her to #1 in any climate really. I'm not sure how Jessie J has done it really though - surprised me (and a lot of other people, clearly). Probably releasing the video right before helped, I guess, plus the song has technically been receiving some airplay for like a month or more now... Also, I wonder how much social networking would make a difference? British acts would be more likely to "encourage" their followers to download the song via Twitter, than American acts who probably won't even do anything. I don't know really. Do you guys think it could make a difference for Brits?

Probably her worst single since the horror that was We Ride. Totally boring generic club production, trite lyrics, horrible delivery. Verses are actually okay but the chorus is bloody annoying as is the "na na na, come on!111" and that horrible "sing-songy" bit at the end. It'll be a hit, of course, but will anyone even remember it in 6 months outside of her fanase? Nope.

ABOUT YOU NOW. It's easily the most dull and uninteresting song left, and has been since we kicked out Justin's boring old whinefest. Umbrella vs With Every Heartbeat would be a magnificent final 2. Both totally different in influences, mood, structure, emphasis etc. of course but both brilliant pop songs that still sound good today. Let's not ruin this guys by putting Sugababes through please!! [/begging]