Overstaged

The small minded person here has to be you, because in not a single post I have made offensive comments about homossexual people, yet you have shown your ignorance in many ways. I don´t even know what am I being acused of. I´m not interest on your opinions of my favourite musical acts, specially if your opinions on music are ass dumb as your opinions you demonstrate here. I´m not interest in the opinion of closed minded fanatics haters.

No. And you have been indoctrinated that all people who believe in God are ignorant assholes with no social life that will go with a Bible knocking on every homossexual´s doors?

Lol, it´s not me who´s been indoctrinated... Surely a mother would want what´s best for her child. Have you ever been to school? Chilren joke at you if you are fat, too thin, too small, etc. You think a "camp" kid will be the one in the school that everyone wants to be friends with, the popular guy? Or would it be the one that nobody likes and the one that usually suffers violence from the others? Why would a mother want this for her child? What you said really sounds like a description of a woman who wants a toy for her entertainment, a pet, instead of a son... "I want to have a gay son because if it´s hetero he will not be so affective and spend much time with me...". If a mother has a fat kid who is joked and ridicularized at school, surely she won´t stop loving this kid, but if she could chose why would she chose or make pressure for this kid to be fat knowing it will cause it to be considered abnormal and ignored by other kids? And why do most gay people only get out of the closet when they´re near their twenties? Surely it must not be something that will make them more accepted and respected in their families and circle of friends. I don´t think that being gay is shameful or unequal to being straight, it´s just your ignorant prejudice that makes you acuse me of things I haven´t said.

Then why the fight because of gay marriage? Even if it was legal I think most gay people wouldn´t even use it. It´s the country where I live in and most of the ocidental civilization... I doubt that 1% of mothers would chose to have a gay son if they could. So you suggest that hetero sons are less affective and do less company with their parents? And by the way, this woman wanted to have a son or a toy for her use?

Or maybe invite him to do gay sex and stop denyng its natural bissexuality because he has a mind block.

Yeah, because any crime comitted by an homossexual or an atheist is an individual attitude, but any crime comitted by a religious person is a fault from anyone who shares the same religion, lol. You forget WW2? Killing jews? And what about the jeovah witness who were killed also on WW2? (most people don´t know it, because a movie about them wouldn´t win an oscar and maddooona and bono wouldn´t make a videoclip about them). People with this arrogant attitude against religious groups have cause equal damage in history.

Your views on religious people is equivalent to the views of homophobic people who think gays are just futile people who wear pink, listen to Madonna and Celine Dion, and do only gay-clubbing and futile activities, think fashion is the most important thing in the world, etc. I can´t stand people who have this type of stereotypized vision, and this can only come from an ignorant. I didn´t think you will be ofended by being called "gay friend", if you can define someone by its religious beliefs, then other can define you by your sexual attitude. But then it seems that every little thing concerning you and your friends is considered a direct homophobic attack,as you being gay was imune of any criticism, but free to post your dumb and ignorant views about other people. Go watch your Cher DVD.

So next time remind me of being more explicit like this: And the stuff I said is not more offensive then this, and has statistics to back it, suicide and depression is more common among non-religious populations.

I didn´t know that moral perfection and no flaws were also characteristics of homossexuals... Certainly you think no homo has ever killed, murdered or rapped somebody? Last time I checked on the church they didn´t have any train blowing or homossexual murder programmed... Blame criminals for crime. I don´t talk about other religions but for christianity anyone who kills or threat other human being, be it homo, hetero, black, white, atheist or christian, or even an unborn, has commited a serious sin. Be more responsible with your acusations. If the Catholic Church is the only one to blame for AIDS then all catholic countries should be fully infected, how come it only happen in poor african countries, including non-catholic countries? Take care of your prejudices, and whatever, I won´t defend the catholic church, I am not catholic and I am not taking the whole weight of the world in my shoulders, I will not be blamed for anything wrong done in an universe of billions of people who consider themselves religious.

And this is a classic example of medieval thinking... Could you please quote me where I have commited the things you acuse me? Otherwise I will just have to believe you say that out of ignorance and prejudice. Wasn´t your gay friend the 1st one who LITERALLY said religion is for people who can´t have friends. How will you criticize me after that?

Come on, you finally show us your intolerant face. Makes Bin Laden sound like a total liberal guy. Certainly all the problems we have... drugs, crimes, prostitution, wars, etc... all because of "religion". Religion is to you what jews and witches were to medieval people. Will you tell me that the global warming is because of the Bible? Suicide bombers... I don´t talk of it because it´s not from my religion, it´s from a religion I barely known. Certainly to kill somebody and commit suicide is a horrendous crime acording to my religion.

I don´t judge or condemn others. After all this is a part of my religious beliefs (don´t judge if you don´t want to be judged - the measure you judge will be the measure you will be judged - remember the author of these phrases?). And how dare someone with such a deep religious intolerance talk about "tolerance", if I had offended gay people 1/10 of the way you offend religious people there will be a march in front of my house.

I didn´t use such type of generalization. I´m not such an intolerant like anti-christians here, I don´t hate people who are different then me. Why didn´t you put a similar response to the guy who said religious is for socially inept people with no friends, the guy that thinks if you don´t have sex with another men you have a mental block... lol.

The following comes from an atheist website: Link: http://www.teacherneedhelp.com/anxiety/

You think 100% of the parents are liberal like that, wake up, in whcih world you live? My parents are not such monsters that would kill a son or daughter for being homo, or tell them to go away and never talk to them anymore... They never had a gay son but my mother said if she had she would accept it. HOWEVER don´t ilude yourself thinking a mother like that would get the same smile of happiness and comfort knowing she has a gay son. We know in what world we live. Gay couples will never get around with hands giving on a shopping center... they will never have a formal marriage ceremony with the whole family attending. And they will undoubtly have to face MUCH criticism and insult from others, at least here where I live. It´s not my "feeling" that heterossexuals are more accepted in society... I´ve never heard of a mother or a parent cryng when discovered his song had a girlfriend. That is just what society expects from a boy.

Well, I think 1/16 is a bit less then 10% anyway... and the last paragraph is built of purely opinion... Just like I have read in this forum, there are gay people who claim they NEVER felt atracted by someone of the opposite sex. No fluid there, just people who like men, people who like woman, and people who like both. What line? What ridiculous of you to mention things that I didn´t say and acuse me. I just said it´s less acceptable in society, not my personal opinion, you think if an adolescent tells his parents and friends he is gay he will be accepted with the same easy as an heterossexual?

Because the notion of a "kingdom of God" in christianity is separated from the secular power. Each elector has it´s own mind and it´s not a particular chuch or denomination that should chose their canditates for them. Certainly there are tons of christians who are opposite to GWB for example... They just won´t use the banner of their religion or their church to defend their political ideas. GWB just uses the terminology that makes him electable in America. The gay marriage thing remains a very unpopular thing and defending that would be suicide for his political career. Same with the aborption, and by the way I think killing someone is wrong regardless of your religious beliefs so I think aborption is a stupid crime anyway.

And that explains the fact that depression, suicide thoughts, and reading books about helping yourself are way less popular among religious people... scientifically proved. It must be why in mainly atheist countries like Japan or Finlad you get a much bigger average suicides, and people with a much colder social life (or even people who have 300 "friends" but not one they can call brother or confident.) I´d rather have 5 close friends whose mothers I can call my mother, then 300 friends of drinking and party who probably don´t even know my complete name and will get distant when the 1st problems appears. I never knew someone who uses religion as a substitute to family and friends.

And where do this "official" statistics come from? And why is there a fact that homossexuality among women is waaay less common then it is among men, even tough in most places it´s more tolerated? Surely if it was something so natural among men they wouldn´t need artificial stuff (lubrification) to consumate the sexual act? And then if everyone was bisexual we wouldn´t have 100% gay or 100% lesbians, because there are really some people who don´t feel ANY atraction for the opposite sex. Surely it´s not a mind block that makes people chose the less acepted sexuality in society.

Lol, isn´t that a perfect biography for a moral reference to 1 billion people...

So it´s because ancient pagans knew how to integrate with nature, while the always bad-boy christianity started to destroy the planet... Surely it has nothing to do with technology evolving??? I didn´t say that. It´s quite childish to blame Bush´s actions on christianity, and as I have already said I really doubt that he cares a bit about God or whatever spiritual. He just speaks what his electors want to hear. None of these "murderous intentions" are any legitimate from the christian doctrine and it´s calunious to sugest that. Christianity has nothing to do with capitalism, that´s bull$h!t. Just because it´s the religion that eventually became majority in the capitalist countries doesn´t mean it has a direct relation. Whatever people do using a flag of the cross doesn´t need to have a direct relation with religion. I think your views on religion and religious people in general are flawed, because you only see the bad side and completely ignore what´s good. If it does good to the individual person then it´s already good, if people remain voluntarily on it and feel happy they are receiving something good, people are not obrigate to give up on their beliefs because one idiot here and there decides to do pathetic stuff using the flag of a particular religion, and as always if 1,000 good things happen and only 1 bad thing happen, then bad thing eventually will be reported in the news more then the other 1,000 together.

I have read somewhere that when a gay person has an identical twin, usually BOTH are gay. There was even an american duo of 2 identical twins that were lesbians but they didn´t explore that in their music like T.a.t.u. I can´t imagine a totally camp person having an identical twin being a macho guy.

But being "camp" is like listening to Madonna and Cher and watching Dawson´s Creek?

lol

This times when everyone in the roman empire was gay have never existed except in some people´s fantasies and maybe porn movies...