AshDeluxe

But this is already Chartboost's thread... The thread for the official French charts is here: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=123363 @ Chartboost: Yep, let's see what they say.

What you say about a collective musical experience is of course true. If someone spends his holidays abroad and hears a specific song on the radio all day, he of course thinks this has got to be one of the biggest hits there. But then again, if you consider the situation in Germany: Over here, radios don't play the songs that they think most people like, they play the songs that most people don't hate (so they don't switch the station). This leads to a terribly onesided MOR radio where inoffensive songs are played all day. If you spent your holidays in Germany in the past few months, you might have thought that, for example, James Blunt's "Stay The Night" was one of the 3 or 4 biggest hits of the winter, as radio stations played it 24/7. But it actually only spent 6 weeks in the top 20 of the sales chart. The same can be seen with every Robbie Williams or Ich+Ich single. On the other hand, "The Time" by the BEPs only reached #24 in the airplay chart although it spent 4 weeks on top of the sales chart. It's a "love it or hate it"-song - and there are just too many people who hate it, so it's not radio friendly enough for Germany. This leads to the situation that airplay charts don't necessarily show the most popular tracks but those that least people hate right now. In the UK, the radio situation is different I think, but there it is even more unsuitable to include airplay in the official chart. Radio 1 is dominating the radio market, and they actually play a lot of new and non-MOR music. They have very often songs on their A-playlist which later terribly flop commercially. So the program director thought people might like them, but they actually don't. Hence having good airplay means nothing in terms of actual popularity. So the airplay chart isn't capable of showing what is really popular. It's just what program directors think what might be popular - but they can be wrong. I understand that you have a different opinion on this as you're a program director yourself IIRC... But the problem is, nobody knows exactly what was the reason for a consumer to buy an album. It could be the current hit single, it could be the 2nd most downloaded song, it could be a completely different song - or maybe the buyer just wants the album because he likes the artist and the music in general, but no specific song. It's impossible to tell. It's only speculation - that's why you shouldn't mix album and single sales. On the German Top 50, there's a song by Helene Fischer which has been charting for 6 weeks now. But it is neither her current radio single nor does it have any significant digital sales - it's only there because her Best Of album is selling pretty well. That is just random. And even if you include album sales into the singles chart - how much do you want to weight them? Sometimes an album #1 sells only 10k, sometimes 200k. If already a song from a 10-15k album (I don't think Helene Fischer sells way more right now) can stay in the top 50 for weeks, a real strong selling #1 album should for sure get at least a top 3 song? But then again, nobody knows German record sales... -_- German charts are also clear about their rules. But, well, no one can verify the data, as private persons don't have access to the original sales data. But I'm sure, APC have neither... It's definetely an addition, even though I'm not truly convinced of the system as I said. But maybe you should be a little less "aggressive" with posting it... ;) There are just too many threads for it, concerning there's apparently little interest from other users (measured by other user's feedback). Maybe you should limit yourself to only post the most important ones and not all of them. ;) And of course you should keep them in their respective threads and not bug other users who only want to read about the official charts...

Well, I stop discussing if I see that it leads to nothing. But let's try it again... You say the official charts are bad because they are too influenced by the music industry. But why then add airplay? This is maybe the factor that can be influenced the most by record companies - as we saw in the U.S. where record companies bought extra airplay time for their songs so that they could chart higher. Adding airplay doesn't help to show what people like the most - like Euphorique said: in the UK Radio 1 is the dominating radio station. Anything that's A-playlisted there would automatically chart high - even if the only person in the whole country who likes the song would be Radio 1's program managing director. This can't be right. I only accept adding airplay to a chart when there's not enough sales to reflect the most popular songs. But in the digital era, we're far from that. Sales are higher than ever before. There's absolutely no need to add airplay. Even worse is adding album sales to a song chart. I really don't understand it. At least in the way your chart does it with picking one song from the album. I could maybe accept if all songs from an album were taken into account. But this would of course make the chart unreadable. Generally adding album sales isn't necessary, as in the digital era everyone can buy an album track if he likes it. If he likes the album he buys the album (which then is counted for the albums chart), and if he only likes one or two songs from the album, then he buys these 2 songs (which counts for the singles charts - yes, even for the official charts!). Digital sales reflect the popularity of songs better than any other record format did ever before. There is no "sold out" for downloads, they're always available. So the chart isn't influenced by the availability of songs (except for new releases, but this changes now with the end of the airplay/release-delay). And of course you're not allowed to post your charts in the official chart threads. This chart here is made up, no one can verify the data - and it's unofficial. If you'd be allowed to post it then anyone could post their "own French (etc) chart" in the threads, based on unknown sources. You have your threads, you should stick to them.

:rolleyes: There is no discussing with you. You name your arguments and that's it. No matter what anyone answers to that, you just repeat them. @ Euphorique: Wouldn't it be better if there was only one thread for all of Chartboost's fake charts instead of tons of them that make the forum more and more confusing?

You DO spam and you do it everywhere. Half of the International Charts forum is full of your charts. Well, you say it ain't YOUR chart but that doesn't matter as everything you post is these charts. It is annoying, it really is! :angry:

The combined chart is finally there :cheer: 01 01 10 Israel Kamakawiwo'ole - Over The Rainbow 02 NE 01 Colonel Reyel - Celui 03 02 02 The Black Eyed Peas - The Time (Dirty Bit) 04 03 07 Shakira - Loca 05 NE 01 Inna - Sun Is Up 06 NE 01 David Guetta feat. Rihanna - Who's That Chick 07 NE 01 Katy Perry - Firework 08 04 09 Mylène Farmer - Oui Mais... Non 09 NE 01 Taio Cruz - Higher 10 NE 01 Alexandra Stan - Mr. Saxobeat 11 NE 01 Magic System - Ambiance A L'Africane 12 NE 01 Adele - Rolling In The Deep 13 NE 01 Bruno Mars - Grenade 14 NE 01 Ben L'Oncle Soul - Soulman 15 75 28 Shakira - Waka Waka 16 NE 01 Rihanna - What's My Name 17 NE 01 Guillaume Grand - Toi Et Moi 18 14 11 Martin Solveig Feat. Dragonette - Hello 19 NE 01 Usher - More 20 09 10 Duck Sauce - Barbra Streisand some new entries: 21 NE Rihanna - S&M 24 NE Kesha - We R Who We R 25 NE Syntax - Pride 26 NE Diddy-Dirty Money - Coming Home 29 NE Jenifer - Je Danse 32 NE Shy'm - Prender L'Air 33 NE La Fouine - Veni Vidi Vici 36 NE Nolwenn Leroy - La Jument De Michao 38 NE Lolita - Joli Garçon 39 NE Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me 42 NE Mohombi - Dirty Situation 43 NE Anais - 1 2 3 4 45 NE Wiz Khalifa - Black & Yellow 50 NE Laurent Wolf - Suzy 55 NE Take That - The Flood 56 NE Pitbull - Hey Baby 58 NE Dr Dre - Kush 63 NE Wynter Gordon - Dirty Talk 64 NE Angus & Julia - Big Jet Plane 65 NE Joyce Jonathan - Je Ne Sais Pas 67 NE M Pokora - Mirage 70 NE Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough 76 NE Avril Lavigne - What The Hell 81 NE Adele - Set Fire To The Rain 90 NE Ray Charles - Hit The Road Jack 92 NE Amel Bent - Cette Idée La 93 NE Jena Lee - US Boy 99 NE Booba - Paradis Last week's top 20 songs: 23 06 14 Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World) 27 13 11 Usher Feat. Pitbull - DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love 35 16 06 Mike Posner - Cooler Than Me 41 20 08 Tim Berg - Seek Bromance 46 19 08 Far*East Movement Feat. Cataracs & Dev - Like A G6 48 08 08 Inna Feat. Play & Win - 10 Minutes 59 11 06 Adam Lambert - Whataya Want From Me 61 05 04 Enrique Iglesias Feat. Nicole Scherzinger - Heartbeat 73 15 19 Mohombi - Bumpy Ride 77 07 14 René La Taupe - Tu Parles Trop 94 17 07 Morandi - Angels (Love Is The Answer) OUT 10 07 Be Wiz'U - Génération T.e.x.t.o OUT 12 06 Lucenzo - Baila Morena OUT 18 20 Élodie - En Stéréo

Bruno will climb, he entered on downloads only.

2003 / 38 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/lumidee-never_leave_you_(uh-oooh)_s.jpg 01 01 07 Lumidee - Never Leave You 02 02 05 Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (Remix) 03 03 10 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 04 RE 02 The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? 05 07 02 Sean Paul - Like Glue 06 04 07 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 07 05 05 Buddy vs. DJ The Wave - Ab in den Süden 08 06 17 Sean Paul - Get Busy 09 08 04 Scooter - Maria (I Like It Loud) 10 NE 01 Martin Kesici - Angel Of Berlin

2003 / 37 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/lumidee-never_leave_you_(uh-oooh)_s.jpg 01 01 06 Lumidee - Never Leave You 02 04 04 Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (Remix) 03 02 09 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 04 03 06 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 05 07 04 Buddy vs. DJ The Wave - Ab in den Süden 06 05 16 Sean Paul - Get Busy 07 NE 01 Sean Paul - Like Glue 08 06 03 Scooter - Maria (I Like It Loud) 09 09 02 Jaimeson - Complete 10 08 19 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life

2003 / 36 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/lumidee-never_leave_you_(uh-oooh)_s.jpg 01 01 05 Lumidee - Never Leave You 02 02 08 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 03 03 05 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 04 05 03 Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (Remix) 05 04 15 Sean Paul - Get Busy 06 10 02 Scooter - Maria (I Like It Loud) 07 08 03 Buddy vs. DJ The Wave - Ab in den Süden 08 06 18 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 09 NE 01 Jaimeson - Complete 10 07 02 Pharrell feat. Jay-Z - Frontin'

2003 / 35 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/lumidee-never_leave_you_(uh-oooh)_s.jpg 01 01 04 Lumidee - Never Leave You 02 02 07 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 03 07 04 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 04 03 14 Sean Paul - Get Busy 05 05 02 Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (Remix) 06 04 17 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 07 NE 01 Pharrell feat. Jay-Z - Frontin' 08 10 02 Buddy vs. DJ The Wave - Ab in den Süden 09 06 09 Outlandish - Aicha 10 NE 01 Scooter - Maria (I Like It Loud)

2003 / 34 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/lumidee-never_leave_you_(uh-oooh)_s.jpg 01 04 03 Lumidee - Never Leave You 02 01 06 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 03 02 13 Sean Paul - Get Busy 04 03 16 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 05 NE 01 Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe (Remix) 06 05 08 Outlandish - Aicha 07 06 03 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 08 NE 01 The Rasmus - In The Shadows 09 NE 01 The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? 10 NE 01 Buddy vs. DJ The Wave - Ab in den Süden

2003 / 33 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/beyonce-crazy_in_love_s.jpg 01 01 05 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 02 02 12 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 03 15 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 10 02 Lumidee - Never Leave You 05 04 07 Outlandish - Aicha 06 07 02 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 07 06 10 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 08 05 03 Pink feat. William Orbit - Feel Good Time 09 NE 01 Shania Twain - Forever And For Always 10 NE 01 Deepest Blue - Deepest Blue

2003 / 32 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/beyonce-crazy_in_love_s.jpg 01 01 04 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 02 02 11 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 03 14 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 04 06 Outlandish - Aicha 05 05 02 Pink feat. William Orbit - Feel Good Time 06 07 09 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 07 NE 01 Stacie Orrico - Stuck 08 RE 02 Wayne Wonder - No Letting Go 09 09 05 Fast Food Rockers - Fast Food Song 10 NE 01 Lumidee - Never Leave You

2003 / 31 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/beyonce-crazy_in_love_s.jpg 01 01 03 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 02 02 10 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 03 13 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 04 05 Outlandish - Aicha 05 NE 01 Pink feat. William Orbit - Feel Good Time 06 NE 01 Javine - Real Things 07 05 08 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 08 08 02 50 Cent feat. Nate Dogg - 21 Questions 09 06 04 Fast Food Rockers - Fast Food Song 10 07 08 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want

2003 / 30 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/beyonce-crazy_in_love_s.jpg 01 03 02 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 02 02 09 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 01 12 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 05 04 Outlandish - Aicha 05 07 07 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 06 06 03 Fast Food Rockers - Fast Food Song 07 04 07 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 08 NE 01 50 Cent feat. Nate Dogg - 21 Questions 09 08 09 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 10 NE 01 Wayne Wonder - No Letting Go

2003 / 29 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/evanescence-bring_me_to_life_s.jpg 01 01 11 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 02 02 08 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 NE 01 Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z - Crazy In Love 04 03 06 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 05 07 03 Outlandish - Aicha 06 05 02 Fast Food Rockers - Fast Food Song 07 06 06 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 08 08 08 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 09 04 09 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 10 10 02 Ashanti - Rock Wit U (Awww Baby)

2003 / 28 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/evanescence-bring_me_to_life_s.jpg 01 01 10 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 02 02 07 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 03 05 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 04 04 08 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 05 NE 01 Fast Food Rockers - Fast Food Song 06 08 05 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 07 09 02 Outlandish - Aicha 08 07 07 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 09 06 16 50 Cent - In Da Club 10 NE 01 Ashanti - Rock Wit U (Awww Baby)

2003 / 27 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/evanescence-bring_me_to_life_s.jpg 01 01 09 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 02 02 06 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 03 04 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 04 04 07 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 05 09 02 Christina Aguilera - Fighter 06 05 15 50 Cent - In Da Club 07 06 06 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 08 08 04 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 09 NE 01 Outlandish - Aicha 10 07 05 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body

2003 / 26 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/evanescence-bring_me_to_life_s.jpg 01 01 08 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 02 05 05 Sean Paul - Get Busy 03 02 03 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 04 04 06 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 05 03 14 50 Cent - In Da Club 06 07 05 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 07 06 04 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body 08 08 03 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 09 NE 01 Christina Aguilera - Fighter 10 NE 01 Nena & Kim Wilde - Anyplace, Anytime, Anywhere

2003 / 25 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/evanescence-bring_me_to_life_s.jpg 01 03 07 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 02 04 02 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 03 01 13 50 Cent - In Da Club 04 02 05 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 05 05 04 Sean Paul - Get Busy 06 06 03 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body 07 07 04 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 08 10 02 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du) 09 NE 01 DJ Tomekk - Ganxtaville Part III 10 09 05 Craig David feat. Sting - Rise & Fall

2003 / 24 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/50_cent-in_da_club_s.jpg 01 01 12 50 Cent - In Da Club 02 03 04 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 03 02 06 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 NE 01 Busta Rhymes feat. Mariah Carey - I Know What You Want 05 04 03 Sean Paul - Get Busy 06 10 02 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body 07 05 03 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 08 07 03 Big Brovaz - Favourite Things 09 06 04 Craig David feat. Sting - Rise & Fall 10 NE 01 RZA feat. Xavier Naidoo - Ich kenne nichts (das so schön ist wie du)

2003 / 23 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/50_cent-in_da_club_s.jpg 01 01 11 50 Cent - In Da Club 02 03 05 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 03 02 03 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 04 05 02 Sean Paul - Get Busy 05 04 02 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 06 07 03 Craig David feat. Sting - Rise & Fall 07 06 02 Big Brovaz - Favourite Things 08 NE 01 Girls Aloud - No Good Advice 09 08 04 Blue - U Make Me Wanna 10 NE 01 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body

2003 / 22 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/50_cent-in_da_club_s.jpg 01 01 10 50 Cent - In Da Club 02 04 02 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 03 02 04 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 04 NE 01 Yvonne Catterfeld - Für dich 05 NE 01 Sean Paul - Get Busy 06 NE 01 Big Brovaz - Favourite Things 07 03 02 Craig David feat. Sting - Rise & Fall 08 06 03 Blue - U Make Me Wanna 09 07 06 Eminem - Sing For The Moment 10 05 10 Junior Senior - Move Your Feet

2003 / 21 http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/50_cent-in_da_club_s.jpg 01 01 09 50 Cent - In Da Club 02 02 03 Evanescence - Bring Me To Life 03 NE 01 Craig David feat. Sting - Rise & Fall 04 NE 01 R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix) 05 04 09 Junior Senior - Move Your Feet 06 06 02 Blue - U Make Me Wanna 07 05 05 Eminem - Sing For The Moment 08 08 04 Madonna - American Life 09 03 02 Lisa Maffia - All Over 10 NE 01 Trooper Da Don feat. Vanessa S. - Ride Or Die (I Need You)