Everything posted by spicefunk
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PREDICT: Girls Aloud - Untouchable
So you're not arguing, and being positive yet you've called me a "liar, worse than a paparazzi, deluded, completely nuts, and a control freak". Hurling insults makes you hippocritical, not me and those kinds of inflammatory comments are what start arguments. If you wanted the "argument" to stop, all you had to do was stop talking about other people's comments like you suggested. You have no insight. And please don't assume i'm making the same point as someone else. I haven't posted exactly what Andi did once, so that's your mistake. You know what happens when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME :lol: You don't need to create a positive atmosphere either, its not your thread so this isn't your responsibility to decide how everyone who comes inside should feel! (and i'm not feeling the positivity either). I regret if this has upset you, but if you read my posts (of which i have only made 3) back with a clear, rational head you will see i haven't attacked you, and did acknowledge your points, i've simply provided a rebuttal. Its great if you feel so upbeat about this single but others have misgivings and thats all fine and good too. I'm sorry for burdening this thread with another tangential reply but as you would say Kath "I had no choice but to set things straight" Untouchable entered at 146 this week btw! I haven't seen it posted elsewhere so i hope its good news to everyone :) I will You Tube the video, sounds interesting!
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PREDICT: Girls Aloud - Untouchable
Kath, i am not being negative, and i haven't even predicted let alone said this will never get to the top10! I haven't seen anyone call you a bitch either, you are taking this all very personally which seems to be the problem so you are not considering what people are saying.T his song could make the top10, perhaps for some of the reasons you've stated (ad nauseum), but equally may miss for some of the other reasons given. Anyone who accuses Andi of not being a GA fan is mad, he's one of the most vocal champions of GA on here, he's trying to consider it realistically though, and look at success across a number of measures rather than just a one week chart position (please correct me if i'm wrong Andi). I haven't claimed to label myself a "fan" or otherwise, rather you have chosen to label me. I say you are deluded because your belief that this is a dead-cert and not responding to any reasonable naysayer demonstrates a fixed, false belief (ie. a delusion which i sure you may know from your time at clinic), whether the song ultimately makes the top10 or not. If we were being constantly negative that would be called negative filtering, not a delusion. I suggest you stick to your guns and stop replying to everyone's post. You don't have ownership of this thread, and it is a PREDICT thread, not ARGUE. People make their predictions, and its theirs. Why should they change their minds if you wont?
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Downloads - Market share?
Cheers ben. I bookmarked an article a while ago someone posted but on another comp so i'll look out if its the same one. Not sure if it was you - you're signature wasn't as memorable before Hugh Jackman :rofl:
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PREDICT: Girls Aloud - Untouchable
ACTUALLY It was the 1st single off of Ms Kelly: Deluxe Edition, which was in reality more cutshop edition. Half the original tracks were missing and it was around 50% new material, with it being the first album the Freemason's mix of work was available on. It also came out long after any original album campaign had died but thanks for the nit pick, it was really relevant to the points discussed in this thread :rolleyes:
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PREDICT: Girls Aloud - Untouchable
I've just read this entire thread at once, Kath you are deluded. Just because people do not agree with your point doesn't mean they aren't listening to you. Many people some of who are the biggest GA fans on here have presented reasoned theories with supporting evidence in response to your comments. Your own arguments are flawed but you refuse to see this. I think you should question why its so important to you that everyone agree with you. Even if they do, it won't make them more inclined to buy the song, or reduce the likelihood of your dreams being shattered if GA miss the top10 again. So what if they do? number 11 is one position from 10 and so is 9, yet an arbitrary line is being drawn that somehow this particular one place difference is all important Btw regarding your points above: Rihanna's 3rd single from GGGB missed the top 10! (Hate that i Love You) Leona was relaunching a deluxe version of her album (so the song wasn't available elsewhere/album sales argument doesn't apply) As you're saying Miley STILL missed the top10 with the 3rd single so you're stepping on your own point The Saturdays album sales were low by release of single 3, so this holds with the "high album sales= low single positions" theory you discount Your earlier point about remixes doing good (Kelly's Work, and Kylie's The One) doesn't make a lot of sense either. First Kelly used that as a lead single before the release of her album, not a 3rd single. Kylie's was a later single (her 4th) and despite a great mix struggled to make top40, and with sales that this year wouldn't even get it that far. This is after her last single peaked at 10 (like TLK). Also, both were Freemason's mixes, which GA aren't lucky enough to have had here. Just same old Xeno... You are quoting recent "successes" from Oasis and PCD in 3rd singles (both scraping top10) as reasons why untouchable must make top10, but the reality is more third singles still miss the top10 so the list on the other side is larger still. Their second singles just missed the top10 as well, and Falling Down could just as easily missed by one place and hit 11, so not impossible this could happen to Untouchable is it? Also, most bands with active top10 runs (like Oasis whose lasted around 14 years) have seen them broken recently, so whether you believe GA's is still active or not it can easily happen, they are due. The general public won't be aware when they go to download it that the album version is so different, so as with other songs most people will end up with the album version anyway. Fans always download and buy the physical, so you can't count on increased sales from there either, and their physical sales have been falling (as has everyone's). The promo is early again so their real best hope is good airplay. I don't think they'll get another airplay no1, and sadly that massively is what helps records shift, though TLK got to 1 in airplay but only 10 in sales so even if Untouchable gets massive airplay, it may still struggle. Its also been said loads, but plainly OOC has sold unusually well for them and subsequent singles can be killed by album success and are subject to the law of ever decreasing returns. I hope you can consider other people's opinions and realise you can't know you are right, and that others would respect yours more if it altered logically in response to counterpoints presented to you. I like the new edit, cuts out some of the deadwood for radio. I don't like the beat and the vocoders though, cheapens it though i understand they are there to provide more "oomph"
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Downloads - Market share?
there doesn't seem to be any up to date figures published for this- i asked 7Digital about this once and they said they couldn't say! Most people seem to think 50-70% of download market in the UK is iTunes. Its seems obvious they are the biggest, but i've seen songs do quite well when they are low on iTunes, with someone usually posting "But Howz! Is onli X onz Itoons!!!!111" The answer being? There are other download sites (and physicals) If you find anything would be interested as i've wondered this myself :)
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Next week`s Chart - The Preview for Sunday 29th Mar
Interesting! The Fame may top the artist album chart and pokerface holding on despite Flo Rida getting physical release. How cool for her to do the double after missing out last time. When was the last time someone did that without it being the lead/album launching single? (Leona Run/Spirit is the last female i'm thinking, though Spirit was a deluxe re-release)
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Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts Album - Out Monday
lol! Did you pass through on your way to Oz? A friend of mines has been a few times and will only take flights which go via Singapore as she says the airport is like the best in the world and a holiday in itself! :rofl: I couldn't believe an airport could be so nice but now totally randomly you mention it - it must be REALLY nice! :lol:
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Airplay
I wouldn't bet on it... :lol:
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Albums
Catfights drops from 162-OUT the top 200 this week. They have no albums top200. I will post the next time they re-enter with something :(
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Airplay
AYN down 9 to 78 this week. Nothing else!
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Ronan Keating - "Songs For My Mother" album
Nearly 20 years of Annie Lennox would be way better! Remind your mum of her youth! :P HMV weren't particularly cheap when i was in today, try a screenscraper like Kelkoo maybe to check prices quickly?
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Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts Album - Out Monday
Coming up for Air now also rules! Would've been an ace single if radio would bloody play her. Still loving the album :) not really getting in Ghosts yet, though seems its well liked
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Catfights Inc. Spotlights
this may be naive but what is the hate chart? I never look in those threads but i assumed they were about music? They sound bloody awful wonder if i'm there :lol:
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Top 200 Best Sellers Of The Decade
lol np, its hard getting caught up in all the number crunching between threads! Great list is really cool you're trying to keep it as up to date as possible :)
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Airplay
AYN rises 8 places to 69 this week. No other songs in top100 airplay currently
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Albums
Catfights holds at 162 this week, Overloaded drops out the top200, and they currently have no other albums top200
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Singles
12/03/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week 19/03/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week 26/03/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week 02/04/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week 09/04/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week 16/04/08 - No Sugababes songs top200 this week
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Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts Album - Out Monday
I just got this, loving Don't Give it up, 12 bar acid blues and particularly Medevac at the mo. More as i listen, would recommend it to anyone, particularly if you like Kate Bush or Tori Amos i would say. Anyone else got it? Thought it may be fun to post reviews if so in our Suga-lull :)
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um, yeah. so i'm downloading this latest disaster.
So i bought ghosts! Thanks for the recommendation Martin really like it! Medevac is amazing, though i worry she owes Kate Bush some royalties :rofl: Don't give it up and 12 bar acid Blues are early favourites too, will let you know as i listen more :)
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Babes confirm split rumours are false
that statement so so intriguing! Even though its just PR bull$h!t! I don't think we'll hear anything mayor (about the new album anyway) for a bit somehow Glad they're not splitting, not that i ever thought they were but thanks for the free advertising News Of The World! It was a very complimentary fluff piece! :lol:
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Hitler hates on the Babes
lol. v amusing. I see they've done several "Hitler hates" themed videos about multiple topics, so its not just the babes getting it :lol:
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Top 200 Best Sellers Of The Decade
this is of the decade though, so all her sales count for this thread (not just 2009 ones)- it should stay as 501k
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The Top 60 Albums of the decade
i know Amy Winehouse's figure combines the standard and deluxe editions, but what about that box set which came out before Xmas? It contained the deluxe of Frank and Back to Black in a DVD size case with different artwork (black and white with green). It only £15-20 so good purchase if you don't have either, but will its sales count separately, together, or is it even eligible? OCC said they'll combine hers for the list didn't they?
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Catfights Survivor; R11 - Final
Has to be EHB. Bloody you on a good day indeed!