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It was another alright episode. I'm getting a little concerned now. Where's the heavy hitting stuff? 1. The Angels Take Manhattan 2. The Snowmen 3. Asylum Of The Daleks 4. A Town Called Mercy 5. The Rings of Akhaten 6. Cold War 7. The Bells of Saint John 8. The Power Of Three 9. Dinosaurs On A Spaceship

Go on then..... Did this one using current betting odds and allowed for neighbour diaspora. Edit: It's running at the moment, currently the Netherlands, Norway and Armenia are battling it out for the win. With Denmark in 4th. Now it's finished: Semi One 1. Russia (173) 2. Denmark (143) 3. Ukraine (121) 4. Netherlands (117) 5. Serbia (79) 6. Ireland (77) 7. Cyprus (76) 8. Belarus (75) 9. Moldova (60) 10. Lithuania (42) ----------------------- 11. Croatia (38) 12. Montenegro (31) 13. Estonia (24) 14. Austria (23) 15. Belgium (22) 16. Slovenia (1) Poor Slovenia. :( Semi Two 1. Norway (161) 2. Armenia (125) 3. Finland (118) 4. Azerbaijan (94) 5. Israel (91) 6. Georgia (85) 7. Switzerland (83) 8. Malta (78) 9. Greece (73) 10. Latvia (61) ----------------------- 11. San Marino (60) 12. Romania (43) 13. Hungary (30) 14. Iceland (27) 15. Albania (22) 16. FYR Macedonia (9) 17. Bulgaria (0) Ouch for Bulgaria. :o Also :arrr: at Latvia beating San Marino out by a point. The Final 1. Netherlands (242) 2. Denmark (230) 3. Norway (199) 4. Armenia (169) 5. United Kingdom (145) 6. Ukraine (143) 7. Russia (127) 8. Finland (115) 9. Italy (114) 10. Sweden (100) 11. Germany (97) 12. Azerbaijan (93) 13. Georgia (70) 14. Switzerland (70) 15. Greece (56) 16. Malta (42) 17. Serbia (41) 18. Latvia (39) 19. Ireland (39) 20. Belarus (34) 21. Cyprus (33) 22. Spain (20) 23. Moldova (19) 24. Israel (14) 25. Lithuania (8) 26. France (3) It went right up to the final vote, both the Netherlands and Denmark were on 230 points. Then Italy gave 12 points to the Netherlands and nothing to Denmark. Pretty tense. :blink: at Armenia though.

It was an alright episode. The best part was at the start when you saw all the aliens moving around the market. I still can't really warm to Clara. I just don't find her believable. 1. The Angels Take Manhattan 2. The Snowmen 3. Asylum Of The Daleks 4. A Town Called Mercy 5. The Rings of Akhaten 6. The Bells of Saint John 7. The Power Of Three 8. Dinosaurs On A Spaceship

I'm thinking: 1. The Angels Take Manhattan 2. The Snowmen 3. Asylum Of The Daleks 4. A Town Called Mercy 5. The Bells of Saint John 6. The Power Of Three 7. Dinosaurs On A Spaceship The Bells of Saint John was enjoyable, but it felt very much like a safe return to the series. Also I'm not sure if I like Clara, she seems far too quippy and unbelievable a character. I was actually surprised when she started screaming on the plane, I thought she'd laugh instead or make some sarcastic comment. Any time Clara responds to something it has this weird tone that makes her sound insincere.

Ugh if Ireland ends up giving Russia more points than Norway in the final. :puke2:

Just came across this new site called SMGO.TV http://www.smgo.tv/ They claim that by crowdfunding and making deals with studios they can bring back recently cancelled shows (also older cancelled shows but the process of getting the team back together would be far more difficult in those cases) If you fund a new season of a cancelled show you can then watch it on their website with no advertisements (other people can watch them too but they get advertisements, like with HULU) It launched on 15th of March but they were shocked by the amount of attention they got, so it looks like they're going offline next week for a closed test with industry insiders. I believe somebody who worked on one of the shows (Green Lantern I think) was talking to one of the creators and has been supporting them on twitter. Not only that but this person who worked on the show has said the studio (Warner Bros) has already agreed with SMGO.TV So it looks like it's legitmate. It looks interesting, I'm cautiously optimistic at the moment. It's not so much that I'm suspicious that I'm curious whether they can actually pull this off. I've definitely had shows cancelled before (and recently too) so if there's an avenue to give power to the people I'm interested. It's better explained here: http://www.smgo.tv/articles/ (read the article titled "The plan")

That's not unique, Armenia will fail to qualify this year according to somebody in the know who edited their eurovision wiki page.

Albania // 2012: Rona Nishliu Austria // 2013: Natália Kelly Azerbaijan // 2012: Sabina Babayeva Belarus // 2013: Alyona Lanskaya Belgium // 2012: Iris Bulgaria // 2013: Elitsa Todorova & Stoyan Yankoulov Croatia // 2012: Nina Badrić Cyprus // 2012: Ivi Adamou Denmark // 2012: Soluna Samay Estonia // 2012: Ott Lepland Finland // 2012: Pernilla Karlsson France // 2012: Anggun FYR Macedonia // 2012: Kaliopi Georgia // 2013: Nodi Tatishvili & Sophie Gelovani (It's still one of the worst songs this year....but I would have been shocked if they outdid Joker) Germany // 2012: Roman Lob Greece // 2013: Koza Mostra and Agathon Iakovidis Hungary // 2013: ByeAlex Iceland // 2012: Greta Salóme & Jónsi Ireland // 2013: Ryan Dolan Israel // 2013: Moran Mazor Italy // 2012: Nina Zilli Latvia // 2012: Anmary Lithuania // 2012: Donny Montell Malta // 2012: Kurt Calleja Moldova // 2013: Aliona Moon Montenegro // 2013: Who See Norway // 2013: Margaret Berger Romania // 2012: Mandinga Russia // 2012: Buranovskiye Babushki San Marino // 2013: Valentina Monetta (Crisalide) Serbia // 2013: Moje 3 Slovenia // 2013: Hannah Spain // 2012: Pastora Soler (Two amazing songs from Spain, it was hard but Pastora was my number one last year) Sweden // 2012: Loreen Switzerland // 2013: Takasa The Netherlands // 2013: Anouk Ukraine // 2013: Zlata Ognevich United Kingdom // 2013: Bonnie Tyler 2012 - 20 2013 - 18 It's a lot more even than I thought it would be.

Brilliant 1. Norway: Margaret Berger - I Feed You My Love 2. The Netherlands: Anouk - Birds 3. Israel: Moran Mazor - Rak bishvilo Great 4. Spain: ESDM - El Sueño De Morfeo - Contigo Hasta el Final 5. San Marino: Valentina Monetta - Crisalide 6. Montenegro: Who See - Igranka 7. Bulgaria: Elitsa & Stoyan - Samo Shampioni 8. Ukraine: Zlata Ognevich - Gravity 9. Iceland: Eyþór Ingi Gunnlaugsson - Eg a Lif Good 10. Ireland: Ryan Dolan - Only Love Survives 11. Slovenia: Hannah Mancini - Straight Into Love 12. Belarus: Alyona Lanskaya - Solayoh 13. Austria: Natalia Kelly - Shine 14. Hungary: ByeAlex - Kedvesem 15. Greece: Alchohol Is Free - Koza Mostra feat. Agathonas 16. Sweden: Robin Stjernberg - You 17. United Kingdom: Bonnie Tyler - Believe in Me 18. Denmark: Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops 19. Serbia: Moje 3 - Ljubav je svuda Average 20. Finland: Krista Siegfrids - Marry Me 21. Cyprus: Despoina Olympiou - An Me Thimase 22. Italy: Marco Mengoni - L'essenziale 23. Germany: Cascada - Glorious 24. Albania: Adrian Lulgjuraj & Bledar Sejko - Identitet 25. Estonia: Birgit Õigemeel - Et uus saaks alguse 26. Switzerland: Heilsarmee - You and Me 27. Moldova: Aliona Moon - O Mie 28. Armenia: Gor Sujyan - Lonely Planet 29. Russia: Dina Garipova - What If Poor 30. France: Amandine Bourgeois - L'enfer et moi 31. Macedonia: Lozano & Esma - Pred da se razdeni 32. Croatia: Klapa s Mora - Mižerja 33. Lithuania: Andrius Pojavis - Something 34. Azerbaijan: Farid Mammadov - Hold Me 35. Belgium: Roberto Bellarose - Love Kills Awful 36. Romania: Cezar - It's My Life 37. Latvia: PeR - Here We Go 38. Georgia: Nodi Tatishvili & Sophie Gelovani - Waterfall 39. Malta: Gianluca Bezzina - Tomorrow First ranking with all 39 songs! It's pretty unusual for me this year, the average section isn't usually this vacant at this stage. If Georgia and Malta perform next to each other I'm going to die from cringing.

I hope they bring Imperija back. It's far better than the new one. More than that though I want them to make up their minds. Gee and we thought Belarus was bad!

Semi One 1. Denmark 2. Croatia 3. Estonia 4. Slovenia 5. The Netherlands 6. Russia 7. Ukraine 8. Austria 9. Moldova 10. Serbia 11. Belgium 12. Belarus 13. Lithuania 14. Montengro 15. Cyprus 16. Ireland Semi Two 1. Azerbaijan 2. Finland 3. Latvia 4. Iceland 5. Malta 6. Bulgaria 7. Macedonia 8. San Marino 9. Georgia 10. Armenia 11. Switzerland 12. Romania 13. Greece 14. Albania 15. Hungary 16. Norway 17. Israel That's if it was up to me.

Brilliant 1. Norway: Margaret Berger - I Feed You My Love 2. The Netherlands: Anouk - Birds 3. Israel: Moran Mazor - Rak bishvilo Great 4. Spain: ESDM - El Sueño De Morfeo - Contigo Hasta el Final 5. Ukraine: Zlata Ognevich - Gravity Good 6. Ireland: Ryan Dolan - Only Love Survives 7. Bulgaria: Elitsa & Stoyan - Samo Shampioni 8. Iceland: Eyþór Ingi Gunnlaugsson - Eg a Lif 9. San Marino: Valentina Monetta - Crisalide 10. Slovenia: Hannah Mancini - Straight Into Love 11. Belarus: Alyona Lanskaya - Solayoh 12. Austria: Natalia Kelly - Shine 13. Hungary: ByeAlex - Kedvesem 14. Greece: Alchohol Is Free - Koza Mostra feat. Agathonas 15. Montenegro: Who See - Igranka 16. United Kingdom: Bonnie Tyler - Believe in Me 17. Sweden: Robin Stjernberg - You 18. Denmark: Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops Average 19. Serbia: Moje 3 - Ljubav je svuda 20. Finland: Krista Siegfrids - Marry Me 21. Cyprus: Despoina Olympiou - An Me Thimase 22. Germany: Cascada - Glorious 23. Armenia: Gor Sujyan - Lonely Planet 24. Estonia: Birgit Õigemeel - Et uus saaks alguse 25. Albania: Adrian Lulgjuraj & Bledar Sejko - Identitet Poor 26. Switzerland: Heilsarmee - You and Me 27. Russia: Dina Garipova - What If 28. Lithuania: Andrius Pojavis - Something 29. Croatia: Klapa s Mora - Mižerja 30. Macedonia: Lozano & Esma - Pred da se razdeni 31. Azerbaijan: Farid Mammadov - Hold Me 32. France: Amandine Bourgeois - L'enfer et moi 33. Georgia: Nodi Tatishvili & Sophie Gelovani - Waterfall 34. Latvia: PeR - Here We Go Awful 35. Romania: Cezar - It's My Life 36. Belgium: Roberto Bellarose - Love Kills 37. Malta: Gianluca Bezzina - Tomorrow I feel like the hype for Denmark has fallen flat for me. I'm going off the song very fast. (I think I remember saying ages ago it was repetitive and that's starting to show now)

I'm kinda divided on this. Don't really like the rap parts but I like the parts from Nina Zizic. Might grow on me. Better than last year anyway.

Heard the song the other day. It's very dull and forgettable. There's far better ballads already in the contest. Was hoping for an uptempo song from them. :(

Brilliant 1. Norway: Margaret Berger - I Feed You My Love 2. The Netherlands: Anouk - Birds 3. Israel: Moran Mazor - Rak bishvilo Great 4. Spain: ESDM - El Sueño De Morfeo - Contigo Hasta el Final 5. Ukraine: Zlata Ognevich - Gravity Good 6. Ireland: Ryan Dolan - Only Love Survives 7. Iceland: Eyþór Ingi Gunnlaugsson - Eg a Lif 8. Bulgaria: Elitsa & Stoyan - Samo Shampioni 9. Austria: Natalia Kelly - Shine 10. Slovenia: Hannah Mancini - Straight Into Love 11. Denmark: Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops 12. Greece: Alchohol Is Free - Koza Mostra feat. Agathonas 13. Belarus: Alyona Lanskaya - Solayoh 14. Hungary: ByeAlex - Kedvesem Average 15. United Kingdom: Bonnie Tyler - Believe in Me 16. Serbia: Moje 3 - Ljubav je svuda 17. Sweden: Robin Stjernberg - You 18. Finland: Krista Siegfrids - Marry Me 19. Germany: Cascada - Glorious 20. Armenia: Gor Sujyan - Lonely Planet 21. Cyprus: Despoina Olympiou - An Me Thimase 22. Estonia: Birgit Õigemeel - Et uus saaks alguse 23. Albania: Adrian Lulgjuraj & Bledar Sejko - Identitet 24. Russia: Dina Garipova - What If Poor 25. Switzerland: Heilsarmee - You and Me 26. Croatia: Klapa s Mora - Mižerja 27. Georgia: Nodi Tatishvili & Sophie Gelovani - Waterfall 28. Latvia: PeR - Here We Go 29. Lithuania: Andrius Pojavis - Something Awful 30. Romania: Cezar - It's My Life 31. Belgium: Roberto Bellarose - Love Kills 32. Malta: Gianluca Bezzina - Tomorrow

Happy with this, Samo Shampioni was my favourite of the three.....and the national final performance seems even better than the preview one. With this and the Netherlands song, this years Eurovision finally looks like it's on the up. Azerbaijan and Moldova to pick amazing songs now to top it off please.

I think the idea that the juries save the "good" songs and the public saves the "bad" songs isn't really correct. If I remember correctly Iceland wouldn't have qualified last year if we had been counting on just the juries.....same with the Netherlands last year it was actually the juries that ruined them. With the voting change it really seems like a song will need the support from both the public and the juries, so if Netherland flops in either one there will be no Netherlands in the final. I'd like to think Birds stands out a little more than your typical ballad though.

I think it's more than a borderline qualifier. I actually like it a lot on first listen. I don't agree that it doesn't have the potential to be instant.....it's classiness is very apparent I think. The only thing I could really see working against it is that it's another slow tempo song....and it's among a lot of slow songs at the the start of the first semi. Aside from that it shouldn't have much trouble qualifying. (It hasn't got a whole of competition really) I don't think it'll actually win the contest but it should qualify easily enough. This is the brightest it has looked for the Netherlands in a long time.

Still, I think it could result in a situation where the winner isn't many peoples favourite. We'll see though. Making such a big change to the points system could make for a very unpredictable Eurovision this year at least.

Doesn't this new points system make it more likely for a song that both the public and juries are kinda "middling" on to win though? The favourites (from both public and the juries) will get shafted for some song that just happened to get a good similar score from both the juries and the public.....but that's hardly a good way to win. It's like saying your country won because neither the public or the juries hated it enough.

I don't really understand why they would give so much influence to the international juries. I wouldn't trust other countries to pick my entry that's for sure. It's practically begging for tactical voting.

I can only laugh. Look at the faces he's making. Bonkers. Could definitely see a DNQ for Romania now. Other countries like Russia and Ukraine have come close to not qualifying in recent years...so I can't see Romania being untouchable when they send rubbish.

You must be the prime example of a "grower" kind of song.

Happy Robin won over Ulrik at least. It's nice enough but nowhere near the epicness of Bed on Fire. :(

Oh dear, Tell the world I'm here is terrible. :( I would rather Robin win at this stage.