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Ah give me a break Norma.<You seems to know very well why is he there and to know him so well to know when he must go out and what he has to do. He is in a private clinic so he is not eating your money. He is there for drinking and not for cheating. He is very obviously an easier case, as he could "control" when he drinks: he was never at a gig or at a promotion or with his children drunken. But perhaps you are a better doc to know when he has to be out and what he has to do to get better. First: if he is in rehab, no one would tell when he comes out. He would be isolated -so no communication with outside - and also his docs are not allowed to comment in public such things. So i think is everything made up from the media. I don't understand why you have to be so hateful always with those who are not the saint Gary. Yeah, sorry that he is not an angel, but you have bought the CD and the gig ticket and not the right to say how he has to live his life. He have given 100% for what you have payed and what he does in his bed should be the problem of his family and not yours to be judged. If you have bought the tickets just because he is a family man, well, that was for a wrong reason. But you cannot say now that he was not nice with the fans or with other public. How he is with his family and the mistakes he done, is his problem. Nice that you can understand only the case of depressions and drunkness in your circle of friends of family and that all the other are to be dismissed as cheater and fakers and lazy, especially if they have the luck to be a celebrity (we all know how light and easy is to be in the spotlight, so how they dare to have problems or to be depressed? How they dare to have secrets of their own and deceive us as if they are happy? how they dare to look for a place of peace instead of getting pics and drama-stories about them in every papers for months? how they dare to not be so perfect as we imagine it?) but that he has bad sides doesn't mean that you have to hate him now and be so mean. He is a human being after all, not better not worse. Should i remember you all the good things he have done also on his life? You should be the first i expected to know that 80% from what is in media is not true and that you shoudn't mixture a public image with the real life of a person. seeing how are your messages, i can understand Mark completely that he needs now his inner peace far away from some people judging him without knowing him. There are a lot of things between him and Emma you really don't know, keep that also in mind. Nice from you to be so harsh with someone you know only from the Sun and who done nothing to you. Ah, just because you have known so many celebrities who are also gone in rehab , you should now hate whatever Mark does and know why he did the bad things he did, naturally...It would have been why better for him to be haunted from paparazzi, you would have liked better to see his depressed face in every papers, perhaps that would have been make you feel like there is God after all and he is punished, as if you and the public has any right to punish him. Perhaps mark disappointed you , but your reaction here has disappointed me. Deeply. So, this was really my last message here. I need my peace too and i have no time for so much hate like here. I hope you get what you want and that after the next album they will split and you will get your Gary albums with Gary music and with your Gary promotion with your Gary perfect image and be happy.

Why i was thinking that it will be released on CD on monday? I still think it will make at least top 20, with physical or not...

As i don't like Beautiful world too much, a cheap copy of it is not my idea of a great album :lol: . And as i said, i liked Better very much, sad that it didn't make it better :teresa: . Oh, and i hate chaep marketing tricks at any artists. As for hate, i hate perhaps more John Shanks as producer, as he made also Bon Jovi very bland and also other artists i liked before.

I have to agree. I liked Better and the other creepy single they had, but Ronan cashing on everybody death is just ....urmmmm.... :puke2: Beside the album is such a blatant cheap copy of Beautiful world, that i instantely hate it :lol:

What for :naughty: ? I think it will be better to end with this one andmake a new one better as trying to improve this one with a re-release.... How much did this album sell anyway?

I haven't idea that they are still around :o

LOOOLLL, great that he still has airplay after a year since his win :lol:

I hated Rain , i loved Blame it on the girls. But i think he should tr to make some changes in his musical style. Actually i hear somewhere he can sing also "normal" man range? :lol:

As i don't know rusian, could you tell me: 19. ( 23 ) Александр Рыбак - Я не верю в чудеса is this Rybak with his movie song? If so :cheer: , i quite like it and def. the best video he made for one of his songs.

Good Lord! :rofl:

I still have to hear half of the songs, but till now apart from Norway only Ireland is half way good... I tip Norway for top 10 at least :cheer:

I kind like it :dance:

On that moment my 12 points goes to.....NORWAY! Great anthem! :cheer:

I fear there are some countries were they are recognised only by two songs :lol:

Hehe, changed my place. Like some other millions romanian actually :lol: . We like to explore other horizonts :dance:

Well, you started the trend naming a thread after him and Robbie when the news was about Howard actually, who you even don't mention in your first post :teresa: But like i said, talk about what you want here. I am a bit sensible when people are not taking serious someone problems with depression and addicitions, as if they would be something which would dissapear in no time, so i won't bother to come to disturb the water :teresa: .

Is it planned a release also in Germany?

Eh, no bad.... but not a winner for me :lol:

Too good for a B-side...

Former communist Romania :lol:

I don't think this song would win unfortunatelly. It is not even 20 years ahead, it is to samney with what is in charts now... *it still might receive my traditional vote to celebrate my roots :naughty: * Meh, i still have no fav at this Eurovision edition. No song has such an identity to remain in my head.

Wow, the great Chaplin NOT in the first 50? WTF? :blink:

I am very curious to hear the sing Bosnia comes with. They bring some brill songs

I want to add just one thing before going away from this discussion. Like i said, i saw or i had some people in my vecinity on the verge. One of them didn't make it through. So i won't be kidding with such thing. I don't know how is in UK, but alot of people in Germany don't go in clinic because they fear someone will found out (for a job in the public administration or as a teacher, apparently the administrations are allowed to ask you about or to go for information). Esp. for a man it is hard to be seen as "that one with psihic / drinking/ depression" problem. There is a lot of prejudice against it, a lot of fear you will not climb in your company, etc. So, a lot deny their problems, and carry with them for years, making himself and the family misserable. Some of them will lose on the way. Some of them will become stronger. But at least they are not in the public eye like a celebrity is. Do you want for Mark to behave like Amy Winehouse or like Britney and then bring him into a clinic? Who want to find everything Mark does as a a run away or as a selfish thing was perhaps not in that point of disperation or has not seen someone being there. I much prefer to have now an intensive control and therapy over his problems. Letting his wife alone is also a better idea IMO - she need also time to think. It is not like Emma has not a loving family and friends to help her with the kids. And Mark has also to think at the kids. Do you think a judge would allow him now in the state he is the right to see and be alone with the kids? Just because Mark did big mistakes against his wife doesn't mean he has no serious problems and that he has not to deal now with them. If not now when he is at the bottom , then when? But it seems a lot of you thinks that only because Gary was more in the tabloids and because he wrote the book, he suffered the most and Mark only fancy himself to suffer, but oh, to be laughed at for years it is so easy to deal with, to be a looser also, to be not taken serious for a moment too. Yeah, Gary depression were serious, Mark's not just because he is a cheater. Cheater are not allowed to breathe anymore or to have problems last time i looked in the UK book of tabloids laws, after which the majority of poeple thinks. Well, keep coming with your disgust and cynism against anything Mark tryes now to do - i won't try to stop you from now on with any arguments. It is always easier to think the worst about someone and to kick someone and laugh at him when is at the lowest. Now is the right moment, so let your frust against him :naughty: ! Perhaps the public can propose Polydor to take the new choosen Eurovision man instead of Mark in the band. That would make again a clean cut image to the band. Womanizer Howard, well is not his mistake to cheat, no, it is ok for him, so we can keep it further *patching Howard head*. He was not taking any moment a part from limelight from saint Gary anyway. *just being sarcastic here, but sorry, this double standards wents on my nerves . One of them cheated one wife and one girlfriend, both having his kids, and let both away. One cheated big time his girlfirend, he married her and apparently didn't cheat her since then and still wants to return to her. Wow, great difference! So lets forget Howard with easy and throw away everything to Mark, go along with it :lol: *