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Please do!!! I saw in internet the show on-line, but i coudn't make a copy, it didn't let me :angry: . I am sure Howard and Jason were live (voice), Gary also (eyebrow), but was Mark live? It will be weird if he wasn't this time :lol: . I need to see the video a couple of time again to be sure. His mic was on... EDIT: that part i thought it is Jason autotuned - well, it is Jason who sings with Howard together, so Howard is singing a little bit metallic . Today that was very clear :D .a

Steve Robson - co-writer on Julie, Hello, Said it all on The Circus album - co-writer on Shine, Beautiful world on the BW album - co-writer We all fall down :wub: - songwriter and producer: here a small part of his work (don't know if it is accurate but is very impressive: http://www.austriancharts.at/showperson.as...me=Steve+Robson and here : https://music.msn.com/music/artist-credits/...em=1&ipp=10 ) - official website: haven't found any He seems to get along very well with Mark style of writing and singing.

I don't understand either why they are miming? I would understand only at Jason as he is very emotional and then his voice is very uneven. But why why why Gary? He has a beautiful voice, he struggled only at the beginning with Greatest Day - but that added value, if you know what i mean . I really don't understand why? He has experience, he has the voice, WHY? Does he lose his voice? I still think Mark was live both times, as he was different from both album tracks and his voice had the imperfection of a live singing. The main reason why i am against of Jason doing a single is that i think he cannot carry a live promotion. The chorus on "How did it come to this " sounds heavily metallic and unreal ( i miss here the proper word, but i hope you understand what i mean). It goes very well as a album track, but how on earth can he sing like that live? Sound a little bit like how they transform the voice of Britney, and she also doesn't sing live... Howard was too perfect on The Garden, so perhaps you are right that he also mimed. I think they always sing live on the gigs, even Jason (well, i don't know at him how he will sing now live , like i said, but i don't know if the autotune works also with live voices and if that was the way they transformed Jason's voice). So i won't worry about the gigs! Take for example the BW DVD. Mark was more than sure live (you can tell it at him :lol: ), Gary eyebrow was also moving, Jason was absolutely live and Howard was also different as on the album tracks.

That Mamma mia spoof was very good. I laugh and laugh! :lol: :D Awww, thank you Norma for the kind words for the "little fella " (very much apreciated). Gary was himself like usually (only at Greatest Day he had problems at the beginning), Howard and Mark were both great. At Jason, i am serious asking: does he use autotune? Because it doesn't sound naturally (his second half, the first two verses are ok and his voice normal, and somehow is a switch and it goes to this a little bit unnatural voice). Yeah, he was major nervous :lol: .

Wow, i got to hear the Garden, very bad video, but Norma, you was right: that was the right song for the ocasion. They shortened it (boooo, they take out the false ending which builded so nice at the end of the song, Jason sounds as if he was autotuned (but it may be the low quality), but it was life and great!

Congratulation...and celebration..lalalallaaallllaaaaaa (was that Cliff?)

Well, i am very very very fond on Julie - it speaks to me loads as i am a little bit down at the moment - but i don't think that it would make a chart impact. I want "Hold up a light" as a single - it is such an anthem! but i think only a song with Gary or Jason (if you see the publicity he got only for singing the b-side, think of what would do a real single) on lead would do well, as that is what the majority of fans seem to want.

Feeling slitly idiot here , but who are FF? :lol: Did Oasis and U2 also sing two times?

Oh yes, i received yesterday . I love it, thank you :friends: ( i wrote you about it, but i have not idea on which thread , i was yesterday very active here :teresa: ). "What is love" is very dull, i am surprised that they didn't release this song as a single (*do i show that i am annoyed from TT?*) Hey, i drink for the climbing of Julie in your personal rankings :lol: . It is very random, but everytime i hear it , i remember on the part with "Buon giorno, principessa" from "La Vita e bela" ...

Shhhh, don't say Julie in front of Norma! It is like the red for a corrida :teresa:

Oh well, than everybody seems to like it, fans are happy that all of them sings...hmmm...i think that it will do better as UAN (which makes me more angry , HA! :arrr: )

That is good. But i won't take back the "Most awful promotion award" from Take That. I cannot understand why they made it so bad :cry: . Edit: i think i have just found what my signature for TT official forum would be :whistle:

How it was? Was it at least live?

The only bright part for me is the music of UAN. They f**** everything else related to this song. It helped indeed the album sales but it will be always remembered as a minor hit on pair with IWFL, which it's ridiculous! :angry:

Yes, they did. Perhaps not for so known acts as Take That - they really got it because they were touring together with Mark, and it seems Mark never forget (LOL) his old friends (the manager of TT is the one of Mark solo from 2003 onwards). Take a look on their official websites. Jamie Norton has some beutiful music there, especailly the instrumental one - he seems to be a very gifted musician.

And the award for the most stupid promotion of the year goes to .....*drums rolls*....TAKE THAT! Such a pity they didn't show any remotely interest in Up all night. Why the hell did they release it? They played the awful Greatest Day till boring but for UAN they show no interest. Whatever :puke2: !

It is a beautiful song, but not so masses friendly I think! Perhaps it will fare better as UAN if they promote it in the right time, release more versions and because is the first song where they all four sings together. I won't say a chart place anymore :lol:

Ben Mark - Co-writer of Up All Night, How didi it come to this and Hold up a light - session artist for diverse acts, inclusive Owen (solo) and Take That - http://www.myspace.com/benmarkmusic I didn't liked his old songs but the new songs posted on Myspace are quite good. I like "Bad boyfriend". "Tied to " is not bad either :wub: . His blog is interesant to read. I have no idea who the Reckless Engineers are (never heard about them :lol: ).

I think the other songwriters apart TakeThat members deserve also a thread. :lol: I will begin with two , whos work i know a little bit better, but i want to check also the others . Jamie Norton - Co-writer of Up All Night, How didi it come to this and Hold up a light - co-writer with Mark on the song Stand (Owen 's solo album How the mighty fall") - session artist for diverse acts, inlcusive Owen (solo) and Take That - off. website: http://www.jamienorton.co.uk/ Give a try to the "music" part. My fav are Cry ( i suppose is Norton singing?) and Excerpt one from The Childrens Hour.

From TT official : Wow, didn't expect they will sing the Garden! I take it then as very sure they will choose this song as a single. Well i am surprised to say at least, but i won't say anymore how it can chart, as i am a very bad prophet! I supose those Jason fans screaming for a song with Jason as a lead will buy it :lol: ( but it didn't help UAN, isn't it? ). But if they release it, it is a bit unwise to sing it now live, as it will take some downloads away from he times it really counts. Norma, i think you are right: they are bored to song Greatest Day :lol: .

LOL, if i was me there, i would have choose the spaceship, as my voice is not for pop :rolleyes: . If i was their manager, i would have sent three member with the spaceship and the singer somewhere else and singing live :P (i love the spaceship, the specs but also i much like a live song :lol: ).

Well, than good luck tomorrow again!!! And i heard that listening to a certain song called "Up all night" helps people wanting to learn :lol: .

Norma, i am SURE you wrote that!!! (That with Gary (62) was brilliant :lol: ). The single UAN is here!!! Thank youuuuuu :cheer: . It is really great :yahoo: .

I was so stupid to buy what they make the first time around inclusiv with a couple of singles at ebay. There was a reason why i wasn't the first time around a fan :lol: (Norma, i can send you perhaps one of them if you don't want the Garden!). The Beautiful World was such and such for me (i had the luck to buy the Tour Edition, which is way better as it has additionaly two of my favorite songs of them but i still listen in total only 5 songs from it). I really like more than half of The Circus, which is the best from TT. If you like ballads, go for BW. If you like more up-tempo - go for The Circus.

At least is McCartney and not Michael Jackson : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7936695.stm (but to compare one gig of 4000 with 600000 is just funny IMO, not that would be actually important :naughty: )