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While I don't agree with Shelli's proposal for culling all kids after the 4th she is spot on that it is an overcrowded island We have 58m people living here and are a tiny island, our roads are exceptionally overcrowded, our green belt is being eroded to build new houses, our hospitals and schools are overcrowded etc The reason for that is immigrants so rather than cull babies I would rather stop all inbound immigration bar a select few who can make a major contribution to the country

There are successes and failures in every league :P Look at Adebayor's stats in France, Shevchenko's in England, Henry's in Italy, Roque Santa Cruz's in Germany The odd example of a player from the Dutch league being $h!t elsewhere can be replicated in every league Adebayor 2003–2006 Monaco 79 (18) 2006–2009 Arsenal 104 (46) 2009– Manchester City 28 (14) Henry 1999 Juventus 16 (3) 1999–2007 Arsenal 254 (174) Santa Cruz 1999–2007 Bayern Munich 155 (31) 2007–2009 Blackburn Rovers 57 (23) Just 3 examples ;)

I don't employ anyone directly, when I need to I use agency employees as that is the most convenient as opposed to paying someone a full time retainer, the agancy pay directly the people, I have no idea how much they get directly nor is it my business to ask but the amount I pay the agency even if half of it went to the employee it would be over the minimum wage. I use private healthcare as I have a knee condition that needs regular treatment, if I did it on the NHS I would have to wait months just to see a consultant whereas with private it is a shock if I have to wait 3/4 weeks to see consultant or physiotherapist

I am not heartless even if I am right wing but unlike you I have run a business including one years ago that was turning over 7 figures a year so am far more equipped than you to understand harsh business realities, incase you hadn't noticed the country is on a verge of a double dip recession, VAT is going up so business orders are going to go down significantly and property prices are going to fall too so people are going to be less confident about spending so it is simply not practical to effectively double his salary while at the same time this time next year giving him less goods to deliver. And for the record I am in favour of the minimum wage

The boy might turn out to be a vicar or discover a cure for cancer but looking at him all I see is feral chav

That isn't practical though, in a recession when a company is bringing in less money giving a driver a large pay rise would mean prices having to rise thus the driver then ends up out of work when there isn't enough business coming in to justify him. While your idea sounds nice in theory in practice it is unworkable, would have to effectively double his salary to bring in enough to provide for 10 kids

He drives a van, van drivers earn around 200-250 a week, there is no way they are feeding a family of 10 on that sort of money, they will definitely be poncing off the state even though he is bringing in a modest income

Maybe my post where I said it was not to do with clothing was lost on you ;) I never said it was to do with clothing it was more to do with facial expressions, look at that horrible boy at the front in the black t shirt, the look on his face, he has evil written all over him from the facial expression and his brother next to him isn't much better, the one at the back with the grey top again looks a right nasty piece of work with his hairstyle and look on his face etc, it was nowt to do with clothing And that woman at the front she looks like the ugly sister of the woman that took her kids to Raul Moat's funeral

I don't agree with what the MEP said yesterday although I can kinda see where he is coming from but I don't believe what he is saying as universities, the City etc are full of people with working class / state school upbringings, yes a sizeable minority are exactly as he described but I don't believe that what he described represents every working class person any more than every muslim supporting Al Qaeda, its nonsense.

Van Basten - 5 years Van Nistelrooy - 7 years Davids - 5 years Sneijder - 5 years Robben - 4 years None of their reputations are tarnished by spending long time in Dutch league, they all spent that number of years at a Dutch club before moving elsewhere so if their careers are not tarnished by playing years in Holland nor can VDV's

it is human nature to be judgemental, I wasn't going by the clothes I was going by their faces and their facial expressions etc if you see a girl in the street with a mini skirt on barely covering her ass and a crop top so low her tits are almost hanging out it is natural to judge her and think "slag" "cheap lay" if you see someone in chav gear near you you hold on tighter to your wallet, again that is human nature

You seem very dismissive of the Dutch League That league has produced the likes of Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf, Johan Cruyff, Marco Van Basten, Wesley Sneidjer, Arjen Robeen and of course Van Der Vaart

Look at the boys, the one in the grey top is the stereotypical chav, look at the 3 in the front, particularly the one at the front with the black t shirt, just by looking at them I can see young criminals in the making, I can guarantee if she is interviewed again in 10 years that those lads will have police records And she is not bringing them up properly because she is crowding 8 kids into a tiny house like that, 4 of them have to go into a box room which means some dont even have a bed, she has declined several much larger houses.

I don't get this "didn't do it in Madrid" bit According to Opta stats he created a goalscoring chance every 31 mins and 29 secs at Real, that is 2nd only to Fabregas in FIVE European leagues, that is impressive by anyone's standards, he was anything but a flop, even saw off Wesley Sneijder who many see as the best midfielder in the world.

At the very least she needs her fanny snipped so she can not breed any more chavs I have no objection to people having kids, 1, 10, 50 for all I care long as 1) They know how to look after them 2) They can afford to pay for them themselves without the taxpayer picking up the tab She fails miserably on both counts

The kids growing up in that sort of environment with that sort of mother are just going to turn into feral chavs and committing crime, at least with adoption/being taken into care they possibly have a chance to turn their lives around

At the very least she needs sterilising so that she can't have any kids And indeed the idea of adoption is a good one, she is not fit to look after her kids and is not bringing them up in a good environment, social services should conduct an investigation into her

A bullet in between the eyes would be better IMHO

Even if Clarke had been leader most of his MP's supported the war so he would not have got any pullout or withdrawal through parliament

The more publicity he gets the more people get pissed off and the better chance someone with a rifle is waiting outside Waterstone's next Wednesday ^_^

Yeah I just picked Defoe at random as he is our leading scorer, Crouch would be more effective for sure But Harry has been looking for a 4-5-1 system playing a diamond formation that Venables used to but hasn't had the right pieces of the jigsaw to do it, now he has.

Gerrard has got 80 in 366 VDV has got 92 in 249

He will play the top place in a diamond just behind a main striker The guy is easily Gerrard level as a player plus he can play on the left too, also has one of the hardest shots in football Harry wants to go 4-5-1 so it will be Bale and Lennon on the wings, Hudd just infront of the defence, Modric in the middle and then VDV playing just off Defoe VDV scores a good few goals too

Yep :o World class player for 1/3 of what Milner cost City :o The PL still have to agree but they did for Gallas/Cole and Benjani and Arshavin so will have to here

Van Der Vaart in talks with Spurs, f*** me if that comes off then that is some coup :o