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Streams?

Plus, even outside of just kylies reportoire, Certain and Turn it into love are 2 VERY well constructed pop songs they for me have stood the test of time

I went for the firsts : such nostalgia for me. Our Charlene became a singer, and how!!!

I agree that it’s a very much “in the moment” album like Aphrodite was to me, but I’m good with that. I’ll enjoy it FWIW for as long as I can. With T2: pretty obvs that Kylie needed some extra noise when announcing tour dates and saying it’s a Tension re-release with new set of tracks wouldn’t have given her the attention that a “new” album brings. However, if she’d given it a whole new title/campaign, it may not have received the best reviews or attention, as people would’ve said that it sounds very much in the Tension genre. Most importantly, she was after the records. She knows she’s within striking distance of Madonna if not Taylor Swift. And she might as well try to bag as many records of UK number ones for as long as she’s creating music and has the opportunity..

I realised I've played T2 way way more than T1. Whilst T1 had more stellar individual songs, T2 just flows so well as an album

It’s such a catchy song : imagine when she sings it live

Depends on how many seconds it’s for, the scene, etc etc. Im not expecting a lot. She’ll probably be in the background singing for a few seconds and that’s it

I just heard the whole album again (minus LCA and collabs), it STILL sounds so good. Consistency is key!

I popped into this thread to once again say what a lovely album T2 is. It kind of reminds me of Aphrodite in that (baring ATL), I hardly play Aphrodite anymore and it’s aged SO badly. But at the time, it was all I would listen to and it was good solid pop at that time.

I've honestly given up figuring out what works these days to make a single chart. It sounds like something has to go viral or be a fan favourite (Taylor, Sabrina) for a song to chart. The merit or airplay or top playlists or top position on NMF doesn't seem to matter so much. The Little mix girls for instance have had everything thrown at them and still the singles didn't perform to expectations.

I liked what I heard in the preview. It's not a major departure but kind of almost reminds me of the "single upgrade" that "Come into my world" got on Fever. Whilst I love the original, it wouldn't have made for a single the way the updated/radio edit version did.

It's obvious the record label didn't want to throw a lot of money on this but I'm still so happy we're getting something.

Lights camera GOODBYE!

This t2 survivor is making me rediscover the album again . What a joy! It’s holding on so much better than tension did, where I only ever listen to PP and Vegas high

I don't love MOM but it doesn't annoy me as much as LCA

Even if she had the most amazing single, I doubt it would make a dent on the UK charts with rather low streaming numbers and little radio support, so quality doesn't matter much (PP was once in a lifetime, in this streaming era for a senior artist).

Still baffles me that PP just didn't chart on the German chart. I would've thought it woudl've made an appearance during Pride month at least. Are German charts also a mix of sales and streaming like the UK?

I know we're only in round 2 but the T2 Survivor round is way harder than the Tension survivor series! with Tension, there were highs and then there were the low-lows. But with T2, it's a fairly consistent album (barring the collabs) which makes the choices harder. I'd stopped listening to Tension 2-3 months after release but still listen to T2 quite often.

Is PP considered a Pride or a gay classic now? Like ymca, I will survive, vogue, BTDYK, or does it need more time?

Awful then, awful now. Plus, culturally the PWL backlash had started (they had a big sudden drop in terms of chart entries between 89 and 90) so the song doesn't bring back the best memories

Sounds bizarre! Strategy that is, not the song! Either way, I’m all in for more promo, sales and streams

Both their peaks and their chart runs always baffles me. "all I wanna do" sounds so grand, even to this day!

From memory, I think it was: UK: Bruce no1, Madonna no2 US: Madonna no1, Bruce no2

I'm a bit soft to "Dance to the music" because it kind of reminds me of PWL in a good way. almost like in a 2024 way (if Pete was producing, this would be the sound).

Exactly, both have fanbases that have invested in the said artists through the years. Yes, on the UK chart it's kind of surprising that both 2015 Rebel Heart and 2019 Madame X didn't get to no1. Kylie, post-Golden has been really lucky by signing to a record label that knows how to milk the fanbase's spending power ;)