marcin

True Blue :wub:

Don't even suggest this kind of disaster... :puke2:

One Direction have never had a really good ballad, all of them are boring as hell and whiney. The new single is no exception, I'd even classify it as one of their worst to be fair.

Seriously are there people born after 2000 here? :o I don't download oldies so probably nothing on my list.

This Echosmith song is utterly vile. I also don't get why Labrinth is releasing such a whiny followup to the gorgeous "Let It Be".

Amen!

Taylor Swift - Shake It Off

Pharrell is flopping? Yeah, God exists! The new track is absolutely dreadful (well, not surprisingly)...

Hopefully not. That's easily one of the worst songs released this year.

+1 I was wondering about the same thing actually.

Top 3 very dull though

Dead serious, SKOB. Charts are boring when the same songs remain in pole position.

Every bit of my world is real, believe me. :)

What did I get wrong? I'm sure Tim knows and I'm glad he shares his knowledge with us. In the never ending discussion (not only on this forum) about which Dutch chart should be used as representative, I'm in the camp of the sales one as long as it stays official, no matter what anyone says. Just like I'll never consider Billboard Hot 100 as more representative than their Digital Sales chart. :)

Can I also have this link, pretty please? :)

Hopefully it will never happen again. 2 weeks is already a long time for a #1 song.

I'm not a lord (yet) ;) You can spell what you want. It won't change the fact that the singles Top 100 is official whether you like it or not. ;) It wouldn't have been given the official status if no-one had used it (used for what by the way?) I'm not saying you don't know the charts of your own country but their knowledge is public so one doesn't have to live in your country to know them.

That mess of a song is at #1? :o I was sure it would flop badly when I first heard it. I guess big names have done the job as I can't imagine anyone even remotely tolerating this dirge. And I kind of like Jessie J !!! What a disaster :(

"Secret" was a smash in France reaching #2, it was in Germany where it stalled at #29. "Cherish" wasn't such a huge hit in Madonna's discography so its French peak of #21 wasn't such a big disappointment after all. "American Pie" wasn't released in the USA so it shouldn't count in here. Besides, Brazil and Czech Republic don't have sales chart, their official rankings have always been based on airplay, only recently some digital and streaming charts start to emerge.

You're wrong, Tim. The Netherlands has 3 official charts: Single Top 100 Dutch Top 40 Mega Top 50 There's nothing like "representativity of Dutch (or any other nation's) taste" as the nation as a whole obviously has no taste of its own. Each of the above charts is compiled differently and one may indeed argue that the Top 40 represents the best what seems like the most popular current songs around. Nevertheless, it uses airplay data which is why it doesn't represent what people select to consume unlike in every other European country. If we are to compare successes in various territories, let's not mix apples with pears. When we use the Official UK Sales Chart to determine the song's status in the British Isles, it's logical to look at the sales chart from the Netherlands as well especially if it IS official, just like the combined one.

Of course I always use only the sales charts, even for the USA. Additionally in the Netherlands the sales Top 100 has the official status so it duly is usually referred to when analysing chart performance in your country. :) Practically each country except from the United States uses sales (+ streaming) as indicator of success. If a song is high on airplay but people refuse to buy or stream it, it definitely doesn't deserve to chart high. OneRepublic's music is for instance very radio-friendly so it would automatically mean all their tracks are hits which obviously is not the case. Even their most loyal public in Germany didn't particularly like "Something I Need" in spite of its exposure and the song flopped even though almost every other single from them is an instant smash over there. When it comes to Spears, she's also pretty irrelevant these days in Germany, Austria and a couple of other markets including the UK so you're not alone there in the Netherlands. ;)

Why does buying a "fake" version prove people's idiocy? :o What a ridiculous statement! If someone likes a particular song and doesn't care who sings it, he just buys whatever is available. Some of these "fake" versions can appeal more to a certain listener than the original so why shouldn't he invest in it? I would love to see a situation one day where a "fake" version gets more popular than the actual original, now that would be a phenomenon!

A couple of other examples with not always only ONE country where the song underperforms but often it's the whole region. - John Newman - Love Me Again It only made #34 in Sweden despite going Top 10 in almost every other European country + Oceania - Olly Murs feat. Flo Rida - Troublemaker It performed very poorly in the Netherlands spending only 7 weeks in their Top 100 with a #66 peak - Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop Top 20 nearly everywhere, even in France it reached #26 however in the Netherlands only #48 - Wiz Khalifa feat. 2 Chainz - We Own It Multiple Top 10's and Top 20's but a mere 3 weeks in the Dutch Top 100 (peak: #48, even lower than in Spain where rap doesn't usually sell at all) - OneRepublic - Stop And Stare Somehow their Dutch profile is pretty irrelevant even more than the UK one prior to "Counting Stars" but this old hit only reached #46 in Holland despite succeeding in the UK - Asaf Avidan & The Mojos - One Day/Reckoning Song Top 10 across the whole continental Europe but a low Top 30 in the UK and - not unexpectedly - #33 in Spain - Lykke Li - I Follow Rivers Top 5 in practically each pan-European country thanks to the Magicians remix which wasn't apparently released in the UK, bizarrely her homeland Sweden only ranked the song at #44 and its neighbour Denmark at #40 - Gossip - Heavy Cross Poor performance in the UK (low Top 40) although it went Top 5/Top 10 in most markets with even a #23 peak in France - David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj - Turn Me On Big success worthy of at least a Top 30 place everywhere bar the Netherlands where it peaked at #68 - Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) See as above, it never went higher than #59 in Holland, at least Top 30 elsewhere - Eminem - Not Afraid Top 15 everywhere, #29 in Spain, #97 in France - Jason Derulo - In My Head Top 20 all around and only #43 peak in the Netherlands

They incorporated digital sales in January 2011, next month they're adding streams. France is an interesting market where a lot of worldwide blockbuster hits flop or underperform meanwhile some other international minor hits are able to do big things (Rihanna's "Man Down", Starsailor's "Four To The Floor", DJ Bobo's "Chihuahua", Gala's "Let A Boy Cry" were all #1 hits there).

- Swedish House Mafia - Don't You Worry Child Top 10 pretty much everywhere, only #37 peak in France - The Script feat. Will.i.am - Hall Of Fame Top 20 easily everywhere, barely #60 peak in France - Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa feat. Bruno Mars - Young, Wild & Free Top 20 all around Europe and Oceania, #44 peak in the UK (didn't chart in Spain though) - Chris Brown - Yeah 3X Again high peaks practically everywhere except from France (#59) and no chart entry in Spain - Cee-Lo Green - f*** You Another example of France sticking out (#84) in terms of peaks with Spain missing this hit completely - Flo Rida feat. David Guetta - Club Can't Handle Me Mainly Top 10 around the world with Guetta's homeland of France bizarrely ranking it at #72 only - B.o.B feat. Hayley Williams - Airplanes Among all the Top 10's France looks again weird with a peak of #89, no chart success in Spain either - Inna - Hot Top 10/20 in most of European countries bar Germany where it peaked at #80 - Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire No entry in Spain and a single week in the French Top 200 (at #169) for this million seller - Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love Top 3 basically all over the world meanwhile a poor peak of #38 in Spain - Rihanna - Don't Stop The Music Once again Spaniards surprised with a low #41 peak having been its single week in their Top 50 - Mika - Grace Kelly Top 10 easily all over Europe when in France it only reached #82 (now on the other hand he's huge over there!) - Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie A Top 5 hit virtually everywhere but it flopped in Sweden peaking at a low #45 - Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dani California It was a smash making loads of Top 10's but France lagged behind with a #57 peak - James Blunt - You're Beautiful Huge success with many number 1's but Spain gave it just 2 weeks of chart presence with a peak of #43 - Snoop Dogg feat. Charlie Wilson & Justin Timberlake - Signs In Sweden it only reached #58 in spite of many Top 10/20's under its belt elsewhere - Daddy Yankee - Gasolina Another worldwide smash that only charted as low as #44 in Sweden