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It's definitely a soundtrack in the most traditional sense. The difference is that Barbie is less of a musical compared to the other ones (it still could be classified as a musical though since it has musical sequences).

lol guys, are you for real? I am going for 450k+

I am 100% certain she will have no issue whatsoever outselling Abba.

Adele is CONSIDERABLY more popular than Ed Sheeran. No way she's doing 200k or anything close to what he opened to. Curious about Abba's numbers though.

Not surprised at all at Ed's underperformance. "Bad Habits" first week numbers showed he didn't really have a huge built-in fanbase anymore. Yeah, the song eventually did well in the UK (as did "Shivers") because both songs were perfectly made for British radio + were heavily promoted but there was no real excitement. His WW numbers will probably be even more disappointing, considering how his first two singles had a lukewarm reception all around the world. I can't understand people thinking Adele should be worried lol. I mean, her case was the complete opposite: her song had HUGE first day/week numbers, showing that UNLIKE ED she has a huge fanbase that's still faithful. Not only in the UK and specific European markets either, her song did well literally everywhere. There's obviously huge excitement for her, which is a contrast to what happened to Sheeran. I mean, obviously her debut week won't compare to "25" because the physical market has shrank a lot since then but no way she'll disappoint.

I see. It's a theory but a fairly believable one considering few artists care as much about charts and breaking records as Ed Sheeran. I think him and Taylor Swift are the most chart-obsessed acts in the Western world.

The song was pushed back? Had no clue. As for his underperformance, it's not really a surprise to me because, as I said, the social media engagement for his comeback announcement were shockingly low. Clearly he doesn't really have a faithful fanbase or anything like that. I am a bit surprised at the UK results though solely because I though in the UK market that'd be an exception and he'd actually have a base. Still, the UK results were much better than anywhere else. "Shape of You" was an instant #1 in the entire Europe and this comeback is basically registering in European Spotify for now.

Dude, that's literally a failure though lol. Of course it's not a failure if you compare to a random popstar but for his own standards, that's WAY below expectations and that's not on Buzzjack, are you kidding me? Ed Sheeran's previous era was one of the most successful eras of all time. His current single is immediately in a high position in pretty much every single big Spotify playlist. He is being promoted hardcore on TikTok. He gave over 200 interviews on his first day. That was supposed to be the easiest #1 of all time. Instead, he debuted at #7 WW with less streams than Lorde's first day. And #2 on the UK, which is his home market and somewhere where he always had the easiest ride ever. Lol. That's like Adele debuting at #2 on the album charts or Taylor Swift failing to top the US album charts. It's obvious WAY BELOW what the industry was expecting of him (even though that was easy to predict considering the lack of engagement on any of his announcement posts on social media), no reason to pretend otherwise. It's a very commercial, made for radio song though and it'll be obviously shoved everyone's throat because Sheeran's marketing budget is probably humongous so of course it can still have a decent run but its first day was clearly bad. Pretending as if Sheeran, his team or the industry aren't scared shitless of these mediocre results on the first day (for his standards) isn't very honest lol.

Think their reign will be much shorter than people expect.

I think it'll have an underwhelming result. Good first 24 hours but the buzz won't last very long. The song sounds dated as hell.

I thought it was quite obviously a hyperbolic statement but lol, guess it needs to be explained. Anyway, in your opinion what's the % of the public that consumes individual singles through streaming vs. through digital sales? I mean, I think it's laughable y'all honestly believe "Sweet but Psycho" is a bigger song right now among the GP than "Thank U, Next" but last time I had a discussion here people were legitimately arguing Rita Ora was a popstar the GP was very interested in so I guess we're all in different realities tbh.

So are you sis. But next time try to go for a reasonable argument instead of the dumb personal attack.

Honestly, I think the charts give too much weight to digital sales when 99.9% of the population is exclusively streaming. So if Ariana is getting more streams than Ava then she is more popular imo. But anyway, the user who pointed the most popular song is neither Ariana nor Ava but Mariah Carey is correct. She should be #1 tbh.

I guess I'm the only one who was hoping for Ariana to top the Xmas charts. I mean, "Thank U, Next" is clearly the more popular song and the single charts should be a representation of what's popular right now but alas....

The fact 6ix9ine is a criminal is part of his appeal. It's disgusting but there's a huge segment of people that want to look hard and glamourize this messed up lifestyle. It's arguably a pretty big streaming hit. It just didn't get much radio support. It's also pretty huge on streaming in the US, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands. I think the UK is one of the only European countries where it didn't went top 10.

Some top 10 hits in Australia and a #1 in Germany (when, as I said, Rita is literally the most over-promoted foreign act in Germany. She is literally in every single big award show in the country, despite having ONE top 10 hit. I mean, HOW?) is DEFINITELY far from having a "worldwide hit". "Shout Out To My Ex" was a top 10 in Australia and that's also obviously not a worldwide hit, is it? I mean, "I Like" by Keri Hilson was a #1 in Germany due to a movie tie-in and Little Mix have several multi-platinum songs in Australia so I guess those songs can be classified as huge worldwide hits?

That's what I don't buy. That she's a "big brand in herself". Her social media numbers are nothing special (especially when you go beyond followers and check likes/RTs); her CD sales are really mediocre; she doesn't have big tours (except for a few arena dates in England); she never had a hit outside the UK..... I mean, her whole P.R. game is definitely based on the idea she is a huge brand but, when you look further, there's nothing to prove that in any metric, besides her omnipresence in TV/media. I mean, the marketing has been strong since day 1, when Jay-Z himself took her to Z100 (US biggest and most influential T40 radio) to introduce her as the world's next big thing. But she obviously hasn't delivered and she still is being promoted as if the investment is paying off. And actually, no, I don't dislike her. I think her songs are good and, when I saw her live, I thought she had presence and talent. But yeah, I definitely do not buy her marketing. It's all entirely based on hype with very few results. If you live full time in the UK -- where she does get decent hits -- then she might seem like a really relevant popstar but, let's be real, she is not. Jess Glynne, who gets less promotion (not to say she isn't well promoted, she is, but nothing compared to Rita Ora) gets much better results overall.

I don't disagree her songs are legit hits but there are acts who have a bunch of hits because the general public is genuinely interested in them and acts that have a bunch of hits because they have great marketing, songs that are a perfect fit for Spotify playlists/top 40 radio and a great P.R. team behind them (i.e.: Jason Derulo -- although Ora easily beat him in the P.R. game). I'd definitely say Rita Ora is in the latter category.

I mean, Rita Ora -- despite having 2 huge mega hits that played everywhere in 3028 and being featured all over British media -- played a concert for like 4k people that didn't even sell enough in London for them to add an extra date. So my point is not that her gigs have as many kids as LM but that acts like her (i.e.: over-promoted pop acts that are all over top 40 radio and TV but don't have a considerable fanbase) mostly sell to a very young public. But I'm not really looking for a fight with Rita fans tbh, it's just my view. Plus, Rita Ora concert was at the O2 Academy, which is hardly a family-friendly venue. Little Mix are playing at arenas, which is a completely different ballgame and much more attractive for parents to take their kids. It's difficult to compare demographics when you consider that. Honestly, HOW she gets this funding is one of the world's biggest mystery to me. She has an A-list P.R. game but she doesn't have the sales to back that up. It's not only limited to the UK/US, even in Germany she is all over TV and radio despite the general public having absolutely no clue who she is. I mean, i think her songs are fun and she is talented but WHERE is the money coming from??

No, you're right, sonically, Rita Ora could easily be big among people in their 20s, just like Dua is. But Dua is a hot, current act (and "New Rules" connected to the GP in ways no Ora song ever did) and Ora, frankly, isn't. Her getting hits, at least in my opinion, has nothing to do with her having a considerable existing fanbase and everything to do with her having a top-notch marketing team that gives her the best promotion in the UK money can buy (combined with the fact they are well produced pop tracks that fit with the UK top 40 taste. They'd probably be just as big if they were from Anne-Marie or from Zara Larsson). Pop acts that have a bunch of radio hits but no big fanbase are mostly consumed by kids and very young teens, who are the group that are most influenced by the media and top 40 radio. Which is why I personally think Rita Ora's CD buying/streaming public is not much older than LM.

In the UK, right? Cause those songs are both huge in the US and among the biggest in the planet right now. But yes, I'm inclined to agree the Latin genre may have peaked in the UK, at least for now. But the UK is extremely influenced by what's hot in the USA so as long as Latin-inspired music is big there, chances of it coming back in the UK are extremely high. I mean, "Taki Taki" features Cardi B and Selena, neither of which are particularly big in Britain while "Mia" is entirely in Spanish (which is also a huge obstacle in the UK market) but you can bet that if Drake released an English or Spanglish Latino song or a hot act like Dua Lipa went in that direction than it'd easily be a hit imo.

Her song being AIMED at people in their late teens/20s doesn't mean people in their late teens/20s care about Rita Ora. I mean, Little Mix are much more popular than Ora in general with all segments of the public (including people in their late teens/20s) but yes, people who generally spend their $ on LM (i.e.: by buying their albums or going to their concerts) are generally kids. But I'm willing to bet people who are truly invested in Rita Ora to spend money on her are pretty young too. People in their teens and 20s are interested in a range of acts -- Drake, Post Malone, Dua Lipa, George Ezra -- but I don't believe there's enough of a market in this age group for Ora. She has no fanbase among any age group, she just has hits because she is extremely well promoted and is everywhere. People who consume this type of act (Anne-Marie is another example of that, although her promotion pales in comparison to what Ora is getting since her debut. Jessie J was also another example when she had her debut album) are generally very young.

I completely disagree. People in their teens and 20s may like one or two Rita Ora songs but I have a hard time anyone above 15 would honestly identify as a Rita Ora fan, enough to get her album or to stream in its entirely. Pop albums are mostly sold to kids.

The UK is definitely an outlier when it comes to that because Latin music is still huge in the US and in the rest of the world. But yes, it might explain it's underperformance on UK Spotify. Not in the rest of the world though.

In what world are you guys in? Surely not the real one, where a bunch of Latin vibe songs are still among the biggest pretty much everywhere.