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Posted by: J❄️hq 15th March 2021, 03:39 PM

I don't think we properly got into predictions last year due to the cancellation coming so soon after we knew all the entries

Anyway, now that semi 2 is complete, here are my own personal initial predictions for this year

Jaw on the floor if this doesn't get announced through
Switzerland
Bulgaria
Iceland

Very likely qualifiers
San Marino
Moldova
Finland

Squeezing IN
Albania
Greece
Serbia
Czech Republic

Borderline OUT
Estonia
Poland

Unlikely qualifiers
Austria
Denmark
Latvia
Georgia
Portugal

I think Portugal/Georgia/Latvia are all pretty much dead, but who knows what could be the "Nobody But You"/"Proud" jury moment of the year if there happens to be one!

I think Polish diaspora or Estonia taking another average male to the final are the most likely upsets here, at the expense of
- Czech Republic (a personal fave of mine that I feel will overperform compared to fan response, but maybe not?)
- Serbia (Hurricane are huge in the Balkans as the Youtube views show, but is this the most friendly semi? I'm not sure)
- Greece (I have questions about her vocal ability and how they're going to stage it - the once unstoppable Greece haven't had a top 15 since 2013!)
And possibly Albania but it feels very standard '17th in the final' for them

Posted by: Colm 15th March 2021, 04:09 PM

Both semis are semis of death.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 15th March 2021, 04:43 PM

Ok, so I've been working on an algorithm that takes note of each country's votes in the past both based on jury voting and televoting. Obviously it's quite flawed as I haven't found a way to take in things like genre and other factors but I made it so that it calculates previous voting patterns as well as my modifier which can increase or decrease a specific country's score if I disagreed with the way the votes looked at first. Here's what I've come up with for semi 2 but it's definitely bound to change once we draw closer to the contest.

JURY VOTES




TELEVOTES




RESULTS

Posted by: J❄️hq 15th March 2021, 05:17 PM

Semi 1

Jaw on the floor if this doesn't get announced through
Sweden
Cyprus
Lithuania
Malta

Very likely qualifiers
Azerbaijan
Russia
Romania

Squeezing IN
Belgium
Ireland
Croatia

Borderline OUT
Norway
Israel
Ukraine

Unlikely qualifiers
Australia
Slovenia
North Macedonia

As much as I love Australia, I'm excited at the prospect of no country having a 100% qualification record after this year, and I think it's a near certainty for Australia, they're gonna need a really strong jury vote because I think this will tank in the televote. Predicting Ukraine out also makes me nervous, could it really happen, but I saw them as being borderline IN last year and 'Shum' feels less accessible to me than 'Solovey', and potentially not having Belarus giving them votes could hurt them too.

Belgium as a song I think is a likely qualifier, but staging could let them down. On the flipside of the coin, I think Israel as a song is unlikely to make the final, but Eden is such a good performer that she could really sell it.

Norway...part of me is willing it to be a NQ to serve them right for not sending KEiiNO, but he's one of only four male vocal entries in the semi which could work in his favour. But my gut is saying that TIX is very much a 'local' act and the juries and public will just see the performance as being a bit too ridiculous.

Yes, I love the glow up of semi 2 this year!

Posted by: Colm 15th March 2021, 05:30 PM

Am I getting this right? You made a prediction on the juries giving Switzerland 187 and then you divide up that 187 based on previous voting patterns?

Otherwise, I dont understand how this works.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 15th March 2021, 05:44 PM

Noo, it's far more complex than that I'm afraid haha. I collected all votes from nation X to nation Y since 2010. The algorithm I created then calculates the votes for each nation by looking at:

- How many points a nation has given to a specific country the last 11 years both for the jury votes and televotes.
- (divided by) How many points a nation has had the opportunity to give that specific country over the last 11 years both for the jury votes and televotes.
- The score modifier I gave each country to adjust accordingly.

It's very automated and if I change the modifier for one country it affects all countries on my list but it works well and delivers semi-realistic results even though some countries are always unrealistically skewed in their scores so I have to scale them down further with the modifier (eg. Sweden in jury votes, Russia in televotes, etc). I'm finishing up a similar one for Semi 1 now that Malta's song is out!

Posted by: Liаm 15th March 2021, 05:50 PM

Semi 1
Almost certain: Malta, Sweden, Lithuania, Cyprus
Most probably: Azerbaijan, Ireland, Russia
Borderline (leaning towards in): Belgium, Romania,
Borderline (leaning towards out): Norway, Israel, Croatia
Most probably DNQ: Ukraine
Almost certain DNQ: Slovenia, Australia, Macedonia (and Belarus)


Semi 2
Almost certain: Switzerland, Bulgaria, San Marino
Most probably: Iceland, Finland, Moldova
Borderline (leaning towards in): Czech Republic, Poland, Estonia
Borderline (leaning towards out): Albania, Serbia, Greece
Most probably DNQ: Latvia, Georgia, Austria, Denmark, Portugal

Semi 2 feels too clear cut to the point I bet two of the ones I have bottom will snatch it from something we feel is obvious and cause a huge upset Eurovision is just never that simple.

Posted by: Colm 15th March 2021, 05:53 PM

Is it the score modifier that is key to Switzerland, Iceland and Bulgaria being top 3. Sorry if I appear stupid.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 15th March 2021, 06:11 PM

Yes and no. The score modifier essentially either increases or decreases the score a specific country has. Without the modifiers it's a somewhat level playing field with Bulgaria and Portugal sticking out a bit thanks to good scores in recent years while everyone else has somewhere between 30 and 80 points on each side.

Semi Final #1

This was a bit tougher to predict so that I'd be happy although I'm still not really. A lot of these will depend on staging and hype leading up to the contest. A lot of countries in this semi have some STRONGGG diaspora that was hard to affect and it's a very uneven playing field as these songs are very much either jury darlings or televote hogs or something quite unclear. I'm still unsure whether the juries will actually like Malta or Australia or Russia for instance and I have no idea if the televoters will like Ukraine or Norway because they're a bit out there but could totally work. So here's what I came up with..

JURY VOTES




TELEVOTES




RESULTS

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex 15th March 2021, 06:13 PM

So starting with Semi One (i.e. the deathiest of death semis) I see it going something like this

01 Malta
02 Lithuania
03 Sweden
04 Azerbaijan
05 Croatia
06 Cyprus
07 Belgium
08 Ireland
09 Norway
10 Russia

11 North Macedonia
12 Ukraine
13 Australia
14 Romania
15 Slovenia
16 Israel
17 Belarus (if they're still showing up lol)

North Macedonia are being undersold as I think that could really come to life live on stage
Russia could run the risk of having very little appeal outside the Russosphere and not exactly being jury catnip
Norway will probably qualify on televotes alone
Israel potentially accidentally last
Pretty certain the top 3 of the semi is Malta, Lithuania and Sweden
Ukraine and Australia strongly at risk of losing their 100% streak

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex 15th March 2021, 07:18 PM

For Semi Two my very early predictions would be

01 Iceland
02 Bulgaria
03 Greece
04 San Marino
05 Switzerland
06 Moldova
07 Finland
08 Czech Republic
09 Albania
10 Estonia

11 Denmark
12 Serbia
13 Poland
14 Portugal
15 Latvia
16 Austria
17 Georgia

Serbia's got very little of its usual supporters in this semi and coupled with the tendency for the boring bast*rd juries to vote down songs like that I could see them really struggling
The flip side is that Albania has a lot of neighbour votes to draw on and could be the semi closer so I'm pencilling them in as through.
I'm pretty confident all of that top seven will be in and I opted for Czech Republic and Estonia as the two borderline qualifiers based on Estonia's nordic, baltic and soviet bloc support and the Czechs having the best song of those borderline ones.
Denmark may actually surprise people by being something non threatening and boppy in the second half of semi 2 surrounded by a lot of weird/challenging stuff
I think Switzerland will be a jury darling but utterly ignored by televoters meaning it qualifies.

Posted by: ScottyEm 15th March 2021, 08:30 PM

I’d argue Latvia is a likely qualifier?

Posted by: ScottyEm 15th March 2021, 11:49 PM

Semi 1:

Defo:
Sweden
Cyprus
Malta
Lithuania

Likely:
Azerbaijan
Slovenia
Ukraine

Borderline-In:
Russia
Croatia
Romania

Borderline-Out:
Australia
Belgium
North Macedonia
Israel

Unlikely:
Ireland
Norway
Belarus

Semi 2:

Defo:
Iceland
Bulgaria
Switzerland

Likely:
Greece
Moldova
Latvia
San Marino

Borderline-In:
Czech Republic
Finland
Albania

Borderline-Out:
Serbia
Austria

Unlikely:
Estonia
Poland

DOA:
Denmark
Portugal
Georgia

Semi 1 is a *lot* more difficult to predict.

Posted by: Ghosty. 16th March 2021, 02:17 PM

Initial predictions:

Semi Final 1:

01 Sweden
02 Malta
03 Lithuania
04 Cyprus
05 Russia
06 Australia
07 Belgium
08 Ireland
09 North Macedonia
10 Ukraine
---
11 Romania
12 Croatia
13 Azerbaijan
14 Slovenia
15 Norway
16 Israel

Semi Final 2:

01 Switzerland
02 Bulgaria
03 Iceland
04 Finland
05 San Marino
06 Estonia
07 Moldova
08 Albania
09 Czech Republic
10 Portugal
---
11 Greece
12 Denmark
13 Serbia
14 Georgia
15 Austria
16 Latvia
17 Poland

Posted by: AdamAloud 21st March 2021, 09:57 AM

Semi 1

01. Malta
02. Lithuania
03. Sweden
04. Belgium
05. Russia
06. Ireland
07. Romania
08. Cyprus
09. Norway
10. Ukraine
11. Azerbaijan
12. Croatia
13. Slovenia
14. Australia
15. North Macedonia
16. Israel

None of these feel dead on arrival? Eden is a fierce live performer so it seems ridiculous to have her last but like Lex said, it could be a case of accidental last. But with the revamp coming it could also quite easily knock Croatia/Azerbaijan/Cyprus down to accidental last.

On the flip side I'm only confident of my top 3 qualifying at the moment, such a close semi!

Semi 2

01. Switzerland
02. Iceland
03. San Marino
04. Finland
05. Bulgaria
06. Czech Republic
07. Greece
08. Moldova
09. Estonia
10. Albania
11. Denmark
12. Poland
13. Serbia
14. Austria
15. Portugal
16. Georgia
17. Latvia

I think the bottom 3 I've put here will need a miracle to get to Saturday night, Vincent has the advantage of being the sole ballad in a VERY uptempo first half so perhaps he could do it especially if the juries go for it but I'm yet to be convinced. I'm already preparing for a Hurricane DNQ, they've got very few neighbours to help them through.

The top 8 I'm pretty certain on making it through at the moment.

Posted by: gooddelta 21st March 2021, 10:30 AM

I’d be astonished if Cyprus are in any danger, I think they’ll be comfortably top five in Semi 1 with Malta, Sweden and Lithuania. It’s a big song and I’m sure they’ll go all out with the performance and staging. I agree that beyond that it’s almost impossible to call. I suspect Russia and Norway will qualify though, both with a decent showing on the televote.

I’m concerned for Australia but the only one I think I’d be mildly surprised at going through is Croatia, not that it sounds like a last placer in the semi but it could happen.

In Semi 2 I think Denmark could do surprisingly ok, at least enough to qualify. I agree though Adam about your top eight going through, perhaps at the expense of Estonia or Albania.

Posted by: AdamAloud 21st March 2021, 10:49 AM

I definitely think it's more likely to go through than not, although Tamta only came 9th in the semi and with Greece in semi 2 they're down 24 points before they start so I can see an, albeit unlikely, scenario where it turns out to be the fan fave flop of the year.

Posted by: ScottyEm 21st March 2021, 01:31 PM

I can’t see a path for Norway? To anyone outside of Norway, he looks like he’s basically taking the piss. Without the aesthetic, it’s a drippy, dated boyband song. Juries will likely kill it.

I also think Croatia is being relatively underestimated. She’s up against lots of bops but she has great attack, a very hooky song that has immediacy. Not suggesting it’s a likely qualifier but I’m semi-expecting to see Albina on Saturday.

Posted by: gooddelta 21st March 2021, 01:49 PM

It has a very instant melody and is the sort of thing I could imagine being popular with younger audiences, partly due to the aesthetic, but it also sounds like the sort of thing that could potentially blow up on TikTok, it feels a bit hairbrush karaoke. It is dated but at the same time it’s not too dissimilar to something like The Kid Laroi.

I think it will do ok to badly with the juries but come surprisingly high in the televote, so I do see it scraping in.

Posted by: Colm 21st March 2021, 02:42 PM

I'm doing this without regard to where in the running order each song is, vote-friendly neighbours in the same semi or historical voting patterns. Just basically going on how accessible/quality the songs are and how much of a buzz is going on for each song. Yes, I do understand how much the fabric of the universe would be ripped if Ukraine don't qualify.

Semi 1
1 Malta
2 Sweden
3 Cyprus
4 Azerbaijan
5 Romania
6 Lithuania
7 Ireland
8 Croatia
9 Norway
10 Israel

11 Belgium
12 Australia
13 Slovenia
14 Ukraine
15 Russia
16 North Macedonia

Semi 2

1 Switzerland
2 Finland
3 Bulgaria
4 Iceland
5 San Marino
6 Greece
7 Czech Republic
8 Moldova
9 Serbia
10 Poland

11 Estonia
12 Albania
13 Denmark
14 Portugal
15 Georgia
16 Latvia
17 Austria

Posted by: ScottyEm 21st March 2021, 02:45 PM

Also perfectly feasible outcome. Maybe I’m just reliant on the theory of national kitsch acts not translating. It feels like something Peter Kay could send as a parody. Semi 1 is generally a very, very tricky one to predict with a path to the final for nearly all acts.

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex 7th May 2021, 08:36 PM

Eurojury, which is run by the Eurovoix fansite, have revealed Malta as their winner, full results in the picture.



Their USP however is the jury vote which tries its best to replicate the actual Eurovision jury voting which has shown up signs of potential surprises in the past. Their top 20 was as follows;

Malta – 286 Points
Switzerland – 257 Points
France – 219 Points
Israel – 210 Points
Iceland – 204 Points
Italy – 163 Points
Sweden – 127 Points
Cyprus – 123 Points
Bulgaria – 107 Points
Romania – 95 Points
Finland – 77 Points
United Kingdom – 76 Points
Portugal – 74 Points
Germany – 68 Points
Lithuania – 60 Points
Slovenia – 59 Points
Azerbaijan – 58 Points
Ukraine – 56 Points
Austria – 52 Points
Estonia – 51 Points

Any of these twenty likely to be the surprise Jury winners?

Posted by: BiminiBonBoulex 7th May 2021, 09:03 PM

My final pre-rehearsal predictions for Semi One

01 Malta
02 Lithuania
03 Cyprus
04 Sweden
05 Azerbaijan
06 Romania
07 Israel
08 Ireland
09 Norway
10 Russia

11 Croatia
12 Ukraine
13 Slovenia
14 North Macedonia
15 Belgium
16 Australia

Malta through to Sweden are the only ones I'd put down as certain qualifiers at this stage. I'd say Azerbaijan is the clear leader of the three Eastern bangers and Romania and Israel being such strong performers in EuroJury makes me think they'll make it as well with Romania as the token ballad usurping Slovenia and North Macedonia into the non qualifiers. Ireland I think has enough potential to make it even in a tough semi and I see Norway getting a bit of a Michal Szpak style low jury-high televote which will be enough to make it. Then it was literally a coin flip between Russia and Croatia for the last slot and I've put Russia in by a whisker as there has to be one of the fempop bangers that gets crowded out in the tough semi. Ukraine will be murdered by the jury and the other two ex-Yugos will be murdered by the televote.

Posted by: Jason 11th May 2021, 01:08 AM

So happy that boring Malta entry is no longer number 1 in the odds

Top 10 now:
1 France
2 Malta
3 Switzerland
4 Italy
5 Iceland - Wow! This is growing up quickly
6 Bulgaria
7 Cyprus
8 Lithuania
9 Ukraine I'm still not too keen on this but it looks like this will be the juries 'darling' this year.
10 Sweden (I still can't believe with so many great songs, they decided to send this one. Really?).

13 San Marino

Posted by: diva thin muffin 11th May 2021, 07:52 AM

I still think Switzerland will take the cake this year with only either Italy or Iceland challenging it. With Switzerland topping the jury vote and either Italy or Iceland topping the televote. I honestly think Iceland could feasibly win by being 2nd in both à la Duncan but feel free to point and laugh at me when we wind up in 12th place

Posted by: Ghosty. 11th May 2021, 03:12 PM

Revised predictions for the semi finals following first rehearsals, plus a tentative guess at the final:

Semi Final 1:

01 Lithuania
02 Malta
03 Sweden
04 Ukraine
05 Russia
06 Belgium
07 Cyprus
08 Norway
09 Ireland
10 Israel

11 Azerbaijan
12 Croatia
13 Romania
14 Slovenia
15 North Macedonia
16 Australia

Semi Final 2

01 Iceland
02 Switzerland
03 Bulgaria
04 Finland
05 San Marino
06 Portugal
07 Greece
08 Austria
09 Albania
10 Moldova

11 Estonia
12 Serbia
13 Denmark
14 Czech Republic
15 Latvia
16 Georgia
17 Poland

Final

01 Iceland
02 Switzerland
03 Lithuania
04 Bulgaria
05 Italy
06 Malta
07 France
08 Sweden
09 Finland
10 Russia

11 Ukraine
12 Belgium
13 Greece
14 Cyprus
15 United Kingdom
16 Norway
17 San Marino
18 Albania
19 Moldova
20 Israel

21 Austria
22 Ireland
23 Portugal
24 Netherlands
25 Spain
26 Germany

Posted by: gooddelta 11th May 2021, 04:38 PM

Sweden do seem to be falling down the odds a bit, could they even get slightly lost in the jury vote this year? I'd say Voices is a lot more generic than Too Late For Love and I don't really see them topping the jury vote this year. Iceland could be worth a bet at the moment.

I'm quite surprised to see France at the top of the odds, I just don't see it at all personally. I don't think it will quite be another Sognu situation for them, but I'd be quite surprised if they make the top five (feeel free to bookmark this and laugh at my hilariously out of touch prediction in a couple of weeks when they romp home with 650 points).

Posted by: diva thin muffin 12th May 2021, 10:22 AM

This year is so open. I can honestly see any of the top 6 in the odds win but at the moment I'd rank them like this, in order of likelihood:

1. Switzerland
2. Italy
3. Bulgaria
4. Iceland
5. France
6. Malta

Switzerland remains my pick to win as it feels like it's the most accessible for both juries and televoters and I don't think the "it's too much like Arcade" thing holds much water since Arcade won two years ago now and a lot of people probably won't even remember what song won even if they might remember Arcade as a song. Italy seems to have a lot of cross appeal too and might do the impossible and actually win as a rock song. Bulgaria's staging seems to be working and I've gone from expecting it to be the surprise DNQ to being a serious contender again even though I don't think the song itself is that strong. Iceland will definitely have broad appeal and could be a dark horse but I'm not really expecting it to do well enough with the juries to actually win but a top 5 is well expected at this point.

France could be a winner but they're always overestimated tbh. I don't really get the appeal but the staging will be critical and could make a huge difference. Everyone I've shown the video so far has been bored by it though which is interesting because all the other winning contenders have at least gotten some fans out of my casual fan friends. I just don't foresee Malta winning with this staging unless they have something surprising & shocking up their sleeve. I think a lot of people compare it with Netta (for good reason) but Netta also had the crazy factor on the stage working with her. Here Malta's staging just seems to almost blend in with all the other songs with similar staging.

I'd be very surprised if anyone outside this group of six were to win though.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th May 2021, 10:40 AM

Out of those six I'm really rooting for Iceland or Malta. Although Think About Things was better, 10 Years is still great and I just love them as an act. Malta's song is great and so is Destiny herself, I hope the staging won't let them down.

I love everything about Bulgaria, apart from the song, which is such a shame as I was obsessed with Tears Gone Sober. I like it but it stubbornly refuses to stick in my head. I'm sure others will find it more memorable but it would be quite an underwhelming winner for me. France would be too.

Italy would be an interesting one, even though I'm not mad for the song myself I wouldn't be against it winning as it would stand out. And Switzerland is definitely growing on me now, and will easily be a contender as it's so classy and emotional.

Posted by: Colm 12th May 2021, 04:32 PM

Slovenia is going through.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 12th May 2021, 04:55 PM

Yeah I could see that happening. At least one of these "destined to flop" songs is going to surprise and qualify. I can easily see it being one of the Amens.

Posted by: Colm 12th May 2021, 04:58 PM

it just works live.

Posted by: Herbs 12th May 2021, 05:03 PM

I really hope Australia does better than expected

I can see Malta winning.

Switzerland/France - both could just get lost and end up low top 10

Agree with Slovenia - could easily take a place in the final ahead of Ireland

Posted by: Colm 12th May 2021, 05:28 PM

I think Ireland is in trouble.

Posted by: Ghosty. 12th May 2021, 05:35 PM

After today, Australia are back in contention for qualifying, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it knocked out most of the generic pop girlies (Azerbaijan, Croatia and Israel) in the process!

Posted by: Colm 12th May 2021, 05:40 PM

I want Australia to qualify so that Montaigne has something positive to take from the whole experience.

Posted by: Sour Candy 15th May 2021, 08:39 AM

Sorry everyone but the Portugal entry is GORGEOUS!! Juries will faint and give 10s all around.

Posted by: gooddelta 15th May 2021, 09:10 AM

I like Portugal too, it sounds like a classic movie soundtrack song from the 90s/early 00s. It sounds like a qualifier and midtable in the final.

Posted by: Jason 15th May 2021, 05:39 PM

I'm over the moon Italy is now number 1 in the odds. Forza Italia! Maneskin legends!

If you want some real FUEGO in this year's Eurovision you will get it in Italy's performance.

Bye Bye Swiss Arcade copycat

Posted by: Jason 15th May 2021, 05:48 PM

Sorry, I can't see the button edit in this forum. Just need to say that I don't need to be psychic to see UK and Spain fighting for the last place with The Netherlands coming close to complete the bottom 3. The bottom 5 could be complete with Portugal and Albania if they qualify.

Posted by: NoBrasNoPanties 16th May 2021, 09:42 AM

How cringe is this post from 10 to 10 x

Posted by: Cameron 16th May 2021, 09:50 AM

I thought I was in Cor Lupus’s BJSC thread!

Posted by: ScottyEm 16th May 2021, 10:02 AM

Semi 1 (no order)
Lithuania
Russia
Sweden
Cyprus
Croatia
Belgium
Romania
Azerbaijan
Ukraine
Malta

Semi 2
San Marino
Greece
Austria*
Iceland
Serbia
Albania
Portugal*
Bulgaria
Finland
Switzerland

*Took out Czech Republic and Moldova after rehearsals, as much as it pains me.

Posted by: Colm 16th May 2021, 12:58 PM

Moldova and Czech have been disappointing. Sugar needed frivolous, camp, ridiculous staging. Even the pink jackets are gone. Were they not aware that the video was part if of the appeal of the song?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th May 2021, 03:15 PM

If Italy do win, interesting to see how they would host as when they hosted in 1991 is was absolutely horrific,

Posted by: Sour Candy 16th May 2021, 03:17 PM

A lots can happen in 30 years

Posted by: gooddelta 16th May 2021, 03:28 PM

I feel like Netherlands will do pretty well with the jury at least and will certainly avoid the bottom three. One of the most underrated songs of the year for me, it has a lot going for it, it’s quite anthemic and stirring lyrically and musically, and it’s quite out there for a host entry. They could have played it way safer with something more like the radio country-pop that they do so well, I think they could surprise - not to the extent of a top ten but like 13th-18th.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th May 2021, 12:51 AM

I'd hope so, but the good thing is they can do no worse, I always remember when Sweden hosted after them it felt like a dream shield in comparison, but to be fair Sweden are always brilliant hosts.

Posted by: Sour Candy 17th May 2021, 05:37 AM

I just watched some clips from 1991 and it was.... a journey.

But yeah, surely they would do better now as the concept is probably stricker with its rules.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th May 2021, 01:24 PM

Yes it is much stricter now and more people oversee the show so i don't think it could happen again, even though i was fairly young at the time i remember been so frustrated watching it, as the year before in Yugoslavia was hosted very well and was a very good show apart from Spain having to start again in the performance but outside that it was all plain sailing. But away from that i wouldn't be surprised if Italy won, they have had fairly good placings since they returned to the competition although i have to say ive never been a huge fan of their entries and this year is no different, i would be far happier to see Malta, Switzerland or France to win from the other favourites.

Posted by: Sour Candy 17th May 2021, 02:00 PM

I would welcome any of those pre-contest faves to win - not a bad choice there and Malta and Iceland are due to have a victory... (and would be brilliant to see a Big 5 country win, it's been a decade)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th May 2021, 04:33 PM

Id be delighted for Malta, Cyrpus and Iceland to get their first wins as all 3 have fairly good songs this year.

Posted by: Sour Candy 21st May 2021, 01:50 PM

This is how the songs chart on Finnish Spotify atm:

1 Dark Side by Blind Channel 60,185 (obvs)
44 El Diablo by Elena Tsagrinou 14,794
50 ZITTI E BUONI by Måneskin 12,974
61 SHUM by Go_A 10,887
62 Voices by Tusse 10,739
63 Mata Hari by Efendi 10,679
67 Fallen Angel by TIX 10,226
79 Je me casse by Destiny 9,332
81 Discoteque by THE ROOP 9,137
90 Tout l'univers by Gjon's Tears 8,616
99 10 Years by Daði Freyr 7,919
119 RUSSIAN WOMAN by Manizha 7,186
131 Set Me Free by Eden Alene 6,851
173 Adrenalina by Senhit, Flo Rida 5,963
189 Voilà by Barbara Pravi 5,769
192 Tick-Tock by Albina 5,711

Bear in mind that Italy and France haven't been even performed yet, so looking VERY GOOD for the former.

Posted by: Jason 21st May 2021, 03:42 PM

^Cyprus ahead of Italy?

Adrenalina so low.