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 15th December 2017, 03:14 PM
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Is there an online campaign to get Mariah to the top of the Christmas chart this year out there?
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15th December 2017, 03:16 PM
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Kworb Combined & Weighted Update: Top 50
(as of 0.6 hours ago) 01 - 1.0000 - Ed Sheeran - Perfect (Combined: 3 versions) 02 - 0.6618 - Wham! - Last Christmas (Single Version) (Combined) 🎄 03 - 0.5577 - Eminem - River (feat. Ed Sheeran) 04 - 0.3302 - Rak-Su - Dimelo (feat. Wyclef Jean & Naughty Boy) [X Factor Recording] (Combined) 05 - 0.2904 - P!nk - Beautiful Trauma 06 - 0.2848 - Rita Ora - Anywhere 07 - 0.2325 - Craig David - I Know You (feat. Bastille) 08 - 0.2096 - Camila Cabello - Havana (feat. Young Thug) (Combined) 09 - 0.1885 - Big Shaq - Man's Not Hot 10 - 0.1829 - NF - Let You Down 11 - 0.1754 - MK - 17 12 - 0.1601 - Stormzy - Blinded By Your Grace, Pt. 2 (feat. MNEK) 13 - 0.1530 - Marshmello - Silence (feat. Khalid) 14 - 0.1504 - Clean Bandit - I Miss You (feat. Julia Michaels) 15 - 0.1417 - Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You (Combined) 🎄 16 - 0.1336 - James Arthur - Naked 17 - 0.1306 - AC/DC - For Those About to Rock (We Salute You) 18 - 0.1242 - Selena Gomez & Marshmello - Wolves 19 - 0.1122 - The Pogues - Fairytale of New York (feat. Kirsty MacColl) (Combined) 🎄 20 - 0.1063 - Michael Ball & Alfie Boe With The Rays of Sunshine Children's Choir & Friends - Bring Me Sunshine 21 - 0.1060 - Lucy Spraggan - Drink 'Til We Go Home 22 - 0.1056 - Elbow - Golden Slumbers 23 - 0.0929 - Big Boi - All Night 24 - 0.0895 - CNCO & Little Mix - Reggaetón Lento (Remix) 25 - 0.0873 - Sam Smith - One Last Song 26 - 0.0828 - Jax Jones - Breathe (feat. Ina Wroldsen) 27 - 0.0813 - P!nk - What About Us 28 - 0.0694 - Jason Derulo - Tip Toe (feat. French Montana) 29 - 0.0686 - Post Malone - rockstar (feat. 21 Savage) 30 - 0.0678 - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Holy Mountain 31 - 0.0618 - Sam Smith - Too Good at Goodbyes 32 - 0.0618 - Eminem - Walk On Water (feat. Beyoncé) (Combined) 33 - 0.0614 - Dua Lipa - New Rules (Combined) 34 - 0.0541 - RAYE & Mr Eazi - Decline 35 - 0.0541 - Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone 🎄 36 - 0.0495 - Fall Out Boy - Champion (Remix) [feat. RM of BTS] 37 - 0.0473 - Camila Cabello - Never Be the Same 38 - 0.0469 - Roy Wood & Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday 🎄 39 - 0.0444 - Clean Bandit - Symphony (feat. Zara Larsson) 40 - 0.0439 - Khalid - Young Dumb & Broke 41 - 0.0402 - David Guetta & Afrojack - Dirty Sexy Money (feat. Charli XCX & French Montana) 42 - 0.0376 - Taylor Swift - Gorgeous 43 - 0.0361 - Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas 🎄 44 - 0.0354 - Captain Ska - Sons and Daughters 45 - 0.0339 - Eminem - Tragic Endings (feat. Skylar Grey) 46 - 0.0339 - Sia - Chandelier 47 - 0.0335 - Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas? 🎄 48 - 0.0331 - CamelPhat & Elderbrook - Cola 49 - 0.0331 - Eminem - Need Me (feat. P!nk) 50 - 0.0324 - Eminem - Like Home (feat. Alicia Keys) |
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15th December 2017, 03:21 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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I hate any version of that 'Bring Me Sunshine' song, probably because it was on the P&O Ferries advert plus the Nescafe advert recently and I have seen the original comedy routine it was in and didn't find it funny sadly. I know this new version is for charity though but I wish they would have picked a better song.
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15th December 2017, 03:35 PM
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It seems a little in poor taste for Ed Sheehan to be so desperate with all these versions to get number 1...... move aside, respect George and give Christmas number 1 to Wham..... an ACTUAL Christmas song.
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15th December 2017, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(MARIAH. @ Dec 15 2017, 01:25 PM)  Honestly, I wouldn't. I'd feel the same if it was Adele doing this! I'd rather a song got to #1 on merit of the popularity of one version predominantly (i.e. the single version) rather than an additional two major duet versions giving it the (much needed) boost to be able to do it. Rockabye managed #1 "naturally" last year without the need of alternative versions to give it a leg up! Ed's being very cynical and manipulating in order to achieve this Xmas #1. I mean, fair enough that he's exploited the chart rules to the extent that this is all above board, but I feel like there isn't much sense of achievement in him scoring this Xmas #1 via giving his fans two new versions to buy/stream, while the actual original single version of the song isn't doing all that much by itself (and funnily enough will be the version that this success is attributed to). That's just my opinion. How can you say the song isn't doing well by itself? It was firmly in the top 5/10 before the remixes and had loads of success when the album was released. Also Little Mix who are seen as gods on here add rent a rappers to their single releases to gain more sales and streans but I bet it called clever when they do it. |
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15th December 2017, 03:58 PM
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Difference between little mix and Ed Sheeran is they release that once as the single version this is the third different version of perfect 2 released in the space of 2 weeks and they just remixes
Would be funny if river beat perfect to number 1 this week but unlikely |
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15th December 2017, 04:05 PM
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 1. Eminem ft. Ed Sheeran 2. Wham! 3. Ed Sheeran ft. Beyonce
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15th December 2017, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 15 2017, 03:35 PM) How can you say the song isn't doing well by itself? It was firmly in the top 5/10 before the remixes and had loads of success when the album was released. Also Little Mix who are seen as gods on here add rent a rappers to their single releases to gain more sales and streans but I bet it called clever when they do it. The Ed/Beyoncé version provided the impetus to get him to #1, whereas the solo version didn't achieve that - not even with an X Factor performance. I assume if he'd not released these new versions, Perfect (solo) wouldn't be looking to be #1 this week and probably wouldn't have got there at all. "Firmly in the Top 5/10 with solo version" =/= "climbing to #1 and then vying for Christmas #1 thanks to new versions". The difference with Little Mix is that the versions with rappers (for No More Sad Songs & Power) were actually the single versions... the original album versions weren't pushed. |
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15th December 2017, 04:31 PM
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Wham! - Last Christmas watch:
#2, #28, #377, #380, #734 - Single Version #103, #119, #594 - Pudding Mix Come on Pudding Mix, go Top 100! This is the version at #103: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/last-chri...886?i=202118216 |
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15th December 2017, 04:39 PM
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ANYTHING but Ed Sheeran. PLEASE. ANYTHING!
Also, I'm SO bored of hearing ''you wouldn't be saying this if it was your fave artist!'', yes I wouldn't be complaining if it was Demi Lovato, Rihanna, Ciara etc. but I'd be able to acknowledge that them having three versions out with the biggest stars in the world is a cynical ploy to get #01. People just LOVE to jump on the bandwagon with the whole ''this site only likes female artists!!1''. It's so so lazy and boring, it's always the same old tired excuse that's used. |
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15th December 2017, 04:51 PM
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Looking SO unlikely now anything will beat Sheeran, Kworb just updated and he's selling bucket loads, only to gain after Strictly.
Such a shame. |
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15th December 2017, 05:08 PM
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Lol, even as someone who was defending Ed the other week I have to admit that releasing a second new version just two weeks after the last one is getting a little excessive. Still can't really fault the guy for pulling out the stops to try to get the Xmas #1 though (and he surely would have done it even without releasing another new version anyway). I heard this Andrea version on Heart FM earlier, it's at least better than the Beyoncé version for me (I really like the orchestral instrumentation), although I think Andrea Bocelli's voice is probably... past its prime, to put it nicely.
Never been a huge fan of 'Last Christmas' but I do hope it charts higher than Mariah (which it looks like it actually might do, I'm surprised at how successful this download campaign has been as it seemed like the social media groups weren't that big) as a good tribute, plus it's at least slightly better than AIWFCIY (the two highest Christmas songs are basically my 2 least favourites of the standard classics though  ) Count me surprised at how quickly Eminem/Ed has taken off as well, I didn't think there would be near this much hype for it after the underperformance of the lead single and other Ed features of late, although I have read that this is more like a 'Love The Way You Lie' kind of made-for-the-charts song and has been relatively well received compared to most of the rest of the album, plus I think it is already confirmed as the second single, so fair play... need to give it a listen ~(basically I take back nearly everything I've posted in this thread the last couple of weeks, oops  )
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15th December 2017, 05:11 PM
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Is Ed that desperate for Xmas number 1?
I feel as he is becoming over exposed. |
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15th December 2017, 05:14 PM
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Ed to release a latin version of Perfect next?
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15th December 2017, 05:14 PM
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Anne Marie's new song not even top 100 yet
Why did she release so soon after Heavy? |
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15th December 2017, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Jack @ Dec 15 2017, 04:39 PM) ANYTHING but Ed Sheeran. PLEASE. ANYTHING! Also, I'm SO bored of hearing ''you wouldn't be saying this if it was your fave artist!'', yes I wouldn't be complaining if it was Demi Lovato, Rihanna, Ciara etc. but I'd be able to acknowledge that them having three versions out with the biggest stars in the world is a cynical ploy to get #01. People just LOVE to jump on the bandwagon with the whole ''this site only likes female artists!!1''. It's so so lazy and boring, it's always the same old tired excuse that's used. *slow claps* |
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15th December 2017, 05:15 PM
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I think we must be due a long break from Ed Sheeran in the near future, I remember seeing an interview around the time 'Shape Of You' came out (IIRC) where he said that he took a year out of the public eye exactly because he didn't want to become too overexposed so it's not like he's not aware of the issue. Maybe he's just going all out in 2017 before vanishing next year? Lol ~ (either that or he's very rapidly changed his tune on that)
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15th December 2017, 05:20 PM
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rip in peace Dickston
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QUOTE(jase. @ Dec 16 2017, 01:14 AM) Ed to release a latin version of Perfect next? Post Malone just released a latin version of Rockstar so anything is possible really 
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15th December 2017, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(jase. @ Dec 15 2017, 05:14 PM) Ed to release a latin version of Perfect next? Italian is pretty close to Latin so arguably he already did  x
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15th December 2017, 05:22 PM
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In chart terms the one thing Ed hadn’t really achieved was the Christmas number 1. Bar the long-term consecutive week type records of course.
I think the marketing strategy for "Perfect" has been clever because each version will appeal to different demographics. I don’t oppose artists doing this at all. I am not a fan of the song by any means but it’s no different to a remix. The record company just seem happy to throw more money at this one but considering Ed has made them so much money, it probably doesn’t make much difference! |
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