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 6th February 2022, 10:35 PM
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If it does go to a vote of no confidence though, isn't the rule that if they win it, they can't have another one for another 12 months? I really doubt at this point, before the investigation is over, there'd be enough support to oust him. It might be better in the long term to let him limp on at least until the May elections.
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6th February 2022, 11:20 PM
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Yeh as you say if the PM wins it’s put to bed for 12 months!
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7th February 2022, 01:05 AM
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There is speculation that more MPs are planning to submit letters but some are waiting for the police investigation to end. Either way - it’s incredibly damaging and undermining for him to have several of his own MPs declare they no longer have any confidence in him. I can’t see the situation improving and the Tories will be affected badly at the local elections which will impact too.
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7th February 2022, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Feb 6 2022, 10:35 PM)  If it does go to a vote of no confidence though, isn't the rule that if they win it, they can't have another one for another 12 months? I really doubt at this point, before the investigation is over, there'd be enough support to oust him. It might be better in the long term to let him limp on at least until the May elections. In theory, yes. However, they can change the rules as they threatened to do with Theresa May. |
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7th February 2022, 09:19 PM
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The events of tonight have surely got to be deeply damaging for him?
Get those letters in! |
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7th February 2022, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Feb 7 2022, 09:19 PM) The events of tonight have surely got to be deeply damaging for him? Get those letters in! We are talking about Tories though. Wouldn’t count my breath. |
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7th February 2022, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Feb 7 2022, 09:19 PM) The events of tonight have surely got to be deeply damaging for him? Get those letters in! Half of the Tory benches were cheering him on and laughing along with him, so I wouldn't count on it. |
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30th May 2022, 08:57 PM
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Possible that the 54 letter threshold may have been breached for a VoNC in Boris Johnson. |
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30th May 2022, 10:34 PM
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Erm, I thought that as soon as the minimum threshold of letters was reached the operation had to be started. By all means postpone the votes until after the recess but smells fishy - especially as letters can be withdrawn anonymously at any time and wouldn't trust a single thing this Government does. Of course it's up to the Tories but still...
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31st May 2022, 11:54 AM
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We've been here before, I'll believe it when I see it.
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31st May 2022, 02:50 PM
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31st May 2022, 04:17 PM
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There are two problems with Johnson promising jobs. First, anyone who believes a Johnson promise needs their head examined. Second, if he gives out jobs to would-be rebels, the current holder of that job has to be moved / sacked.
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31st May 2022, 04:39 PM
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I think he'll survive a vote of no-confidence anyway and then be safe for a least a another year where he will doing continual damage to the Tories and their brand.
Really whilst he is completely trashing democracy and politics in general. The longer he is there, the more the Tories vote is going to be hit in the next GE. This post has been edited by ElectroBoy: 31st May 2022, 04:39 PM |
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31st May 2022, 06:09 PM
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That's my thinking too, he is clearly not popular yet will not budge and continuing to lose support, I can't see anything going better for him even if the pandemic's less of a concern now what with the rising cost of living and continued long term effects of Brexit/Covid/Russian war over the next two years. If he is ousted, that gives them time to repair their brand, the longer he stays, the longer a chance of a humiliation come 2024 (ofc. this is dependent on the opposition actually taking advantage of this x)
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31st May 2022, 10:21 PM
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If the Tories lose both by-elections and the VONC takes place afterwards then I think Johnson will no longer be PM.
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31st May 2022, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ May 31 2022, 07:09 PM) That's my thinking too, he is clearly not popular yet will not budge and continuing to lose support, I can't see anything going better for him even if the pandemic's less of a concern now what with the rising cost of living and continued long term effects of Brexit/Covid/Russian war over the next two years. If he is ousted, that gives them time to repair their brand, the longer he stays, the longer a chance of a humiliation come 2024 (ofc. this is dependent on the opposition actually taking advantage of this x) My feeling is that no one that the party grassroots and financial backers want (ie the hard right Brexit crowd) would be popular with the electorate - Liz Truss and Priti Patel poll worse than Johnson. If they tried to shift leftwards ie Jeremy Hunt there would be an almighty fight for power which would damage the praty more. Sunak was the best bet but that series of damaging headlines (some say started by Johnson's team) has put paid to that. Maybe Penny Mordaunt (always talked about a dark horse) but dunno.... I'm slowly slowly (and this is despite me not thinking much of Starmer at all) believing they've run out of chances. |
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3rd June 2022, 12:24 PM
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Ah, the sweet bliss of hearing the boos from the flag waving crowds as Boris arrived at St Paul's this morning.
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3rd June 2022, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Neil @ Jun 3 2022, 01:24 PM) Ah, the sweet bliss of hearing the boos from the flag waving crowds as Boris arrived at St Paul's this morning. It was a Bring Your Own Boos event 
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3rd June 2022, 10:39 PM
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As much as I despise Johnson and think he is certainly the worst PM to serve during my lifetime, I actually think him staying might be a good thing in the longer term as the Tories are unlikely to win the next election with him still in charge.
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3rd June 2022, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Jun 3 2022, 11:39 PM) As much as I despise Johnson and think he is certainly the worst PM to serve during my lifetime, I actually think him staying might be a good thing in the longer term as the Tories are unlikely to win the next election with him still in charge. The worrying thing about that is just how much more damage he can do in another two years. If Labour form a government after the next election (whether with a majority or not), they are going to face a horrendous mess to clear up. |
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