Predict: Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department, Chart position / first week sales |
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6th February 2024, 05:10 PM
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Break the tension
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Yes (#1)
Around about 150k I'm gonna go with no on the last option as I wasn't saying she's overexposed as such, more that she's overloading with constant releases and I feel exhausted! |
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6th February 2024, 05:12 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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Yes (#1) I think this is how I feel too tbh and a good way to describe it all really (and I get why it may be tiring to casuals/those who aren't fans)
Around about 150k I'm gonna go with no on the last option as I wasn't saying she's overexposed as such, more that she's overloading with constant releases and I feel exhausted! |
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6th February 2024, 05:26 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I'm thinking #1 and definitely 100k+. I went with 120-130k as I feel the album is going to be in the same vain as Folklore & Evermore which won't have as much broad appeal as Midnights and 1989 (Taylor's Version) had. Although it's Taylor and she could end up doing 300k+ or something stupid.
In terms of overexposure - yes definitely. I can't wait until she finished the TVs and takes a break so she's not completely clogging chart and streaming around the world. Although I am looking forward to seeing her become the most certified artist in the world. She'll likely overtake Drake by the end of the decade at her current rate *_* Also lol @ people saying the TVs don't count. They most certainly do, especially as they have produced multiple hits. If the UK didn't have a 3-track rule it would be pandamonium in the chart. *_* We won't see the peak of Taylor in the UK until this summer when she comes here to tour doing 13 stadium dates include 8(!) dates in Wembley. She's going to have like the top 10 in the album chart to herself this summer. |
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6th February 2024, 05:34 PM
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Easily over 200k
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6th February 2024, 05:35 PM
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i can only do one normal thing a day
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over 200k
#2 debut behind Everything Everything's eighth week at the top (the usb sticks are coming out that week) |
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6th February 2024, 05:37 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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6th February 2024, 05:41 PM
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I think the idea of an artist being "overexposed" only matters if they are pumping out an album every year, of poorer quality than they can achieve at their best. If she can still put out a top quality album that people love, then I don't think it matters.
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6th February 2024, 05:50 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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It really isn't because of 'Cruel Summer', it's because this will be her 4th studio album in less than 3 years on top of everything else. I was hoping for a bit of a break after all the TV versions were wrapped up. My instant reaction when I saw the new album announcement: What I shouted out loud when I seen this 😂 She need to keep the exposure going don’t forget when she turns 35 she won’t get promo anymore 😬 |
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6th February 2024, 05:52 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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6th February 2024, 06:08 PM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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6th February 2024, 06:19 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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Also lol @ people saying the TVs don't count. They most certainly do, especially as they have produced multiple hits. If the UK didn't have a 3-track rule it would be pandamonium in the chart. *_* They aren't pushed as proper eras though. She kinda throws them out there with only hype off her name (and the fact they're re-records). 'All Too Well' got a video and was sent (I think it was anyway - or were radios just playing it coz they kinda had to? Icr) to radio, but it wasn't really promoted and only got traction due to Swifties being so heavy and loyal as a fanbase.'I Can See You' got a video but didn't get a major push beyond first week hype. '1989' is just an unstoppable era overall and although it spawned a number 1 hit, that wasn't planned to be pushed as a single and kind of just happened to be one in the end because people gravitated to that track more than the intended one (which I believe was meant to be 'Slut!'). But even then, no videos were made and IION only got sent to radio because people were just naturally taking to it/it was a part of the re-record of her biggest era. As a personal thing, it kinda irritates me that they are considered as different albums by people when really, they're just extensions (and at the moment alternatives) of those said albums But seeing people refer to her new album announcement as "TS11" reassures me that Taylor's Versions are just being used to replace the OG's rn. |
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6th February 2024, 07:12 PM
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They aren't pushed as proper eras though. She kinda throws them out there with only hype off her name (and the fact they're re-records). 'All Too Well' got a video and was sent (I think it was anyway - or were radios just playing it coz they kinda had to? Icr) to radio, but it wasn't really promoted and only got traction due to Swifties being so heavy and loyal as a fanbase. 'I Can See You' got a video but didn't get a major push beyond first week hype. '1989' is just an unstoppable era overall and although it spawned a number 1 hit, that wasn't planned to be pushed as a single and kind of just happened to be one in the end because people gravitated to that track more than the intended one (which I believe was meant to be 'Slut!'). But even then, no videos were made and IION only got sent to radio because people were just naturally taking to it/it was a part of the re-record of her biggest era. As a personal thing, it kinda irritates me that they are considered as different albums by people when really, they're just extensions (and at the moment alternatives) of those said albums But seeing people refer to her new album announcement as "TS11" reassures me that Taylor's Versions are just being used to replace the OG's rn. Yet they last about as long as or longer than most artists' normal eras (one of the by-products of the streaming eras with people releasing 1-2 singles then the album and basically done with the era). She most certainly doesn't "kinda throws them out there" - they are planned with many formats for the albums, a number of original songs and a music video or two filmed. Additionally, everytime a TV album is released her whole catalogue gets a boost. It's amazing just what level she's on and for the most part her overexposure isn't entirey her fault. Like for instance her new boyfriend - she gets more screen time when watching one of his games than he does during the game (media's fault) This post has been edited by Envoirment: 6th February 2024, 07:13 PM |
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6th February 2024, 07:15 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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6th February 2024, 07:17 PM
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I know it's all anecdotal obviously, but I've just asked my mum (54) and she can't name a single Taylor Swift song. She hasn't had one of those hits that you just cant escape from like Someone like you, Hello or Shape of you. We are also in an era where tv performances are so few. You can be absolutely huge these days but still be sort of in a bubble. Like she is huge on Instagram but only if you use Instagram or follow her does that matter. Adele/Ed at their peak were everywhere, Brits, X factor, big TV chat shows, ITV specials and so on. You can easily not really know a Taylor Swift song or who she really is if you want. Most people wont even know how many albums Taylor has. Again it isn't like Adele where you were hit in the face with a big stand with her new album in every supermarket. What Taylor does have is fans now can add waaaaay more sales to an artist than before. The multiple formats and endless streaming mean Taylor fans add way more album sales to her now than my 1 copy of Spice back in 1996 that I played endlessly. |
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6th February 2024, 07:27 PM
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6th February 2024, 07:46 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Tbf to Taylor she’s American so won’t be on our tv as much and most older people like Whoys mum will have heard of her just maybe can’t name a song.
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6th February 2024, 07:47 PM
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It really isn't because of 'Cruel Summer', it's because this will be her 4th studio album in less than 3 years on top of everything else. I was hoping for a bit of a break after all the TV versions were wrapped up. My instant reaction when I saw the new album announcement: Favourite gif everrr |
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6th February 2024, 07:54 PM
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I think that Taylor’s popularity and name recognition has never been higher. A lot of her older music has been played to death and thus anything new is a good change. Given the fact it’ll be hyped to oblivion too I can see extremely high numbers but I’m not familiar with UK album sale numbers. For US I can see near a million for UK probably 180-220 range.
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6th February 2024, 08:27 PM
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A definite number 1 and i think 100k and 1000% think she is overexposed, and its total overkill.
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6th February 2024, 09:23 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I think #1 and between 110-120k. I don't have strong feelings about overexposure but that is because I am a very casual fan and I don't feel like she is 'everywhere' like other huge artists of her calibre. She has never quite been omnipresent like Adele, Spice Girls, Ed Sheeran were so you can choose to take what you want from her.
I guess for those who follow the charts or her career more may feel different. |
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