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| Streaming Services Chart Discussion, w/c 26th April 2024 | Spotify, Apple, Amazon |
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 1st May 2024, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Blob @ 1st May 2024, 02:11 PM)  Well, I think it normally lasts 2 weeks? Hozier for example, seems like it had it in weeks 3 and 4 where he got to over 900,000, and now it's finished and he's back down to 700,000. For Sabrina it looks like it's happened in weeks 2 and 3 so I would expect if it follows a similar pattern it will fall to around 800,000 next week, and I guess another song will be chosen to replace it. At least that's what it seems like is happening anyway. If so, at least it'll make the #1 turnover a bit faster lol. Two weeks? How comes Djo’s only lasted 4 days(coincidentally when he peaked on tiktok and every account was making a video saying I can't escape this song) Hozier got 900k one day(a Friday the most popular day) People have this idea autoplay is the answer to unexplained rises or falls but it's all algorithms. Songs gaining popularity get more autoplay but it's a minor addition or subtraction. If a song authentically gains or loses streams and in combo gains or loses some autoplay sure it can create a big disparity in streams in a small timeframe but that's not ‘payola’ it's just basic logic. Hozier did 900k ONCE on a Friday(the most popular day) it hasnt fallen to 400k it's still doing big numbers so what suggests it was down to autoplay? Was it supposed to stay 800k exact streams forever? I just see no real point following streams and numbers if everytime someone gets big streams it's dismissed as autoplay. Every song doing well will get autoplay that's literally how the algorithm works. It's not the reason for the rises it's an unavoidable addition. |
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1st May 2024, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Liam sota @ 1st May 2024, 02:54 PM) Hozier got 900k one day(a Friday the most popular day) Was actually on the 16th April - so was a Tuesday |
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1st May 2024, 02:03 PM
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Autoplay boosts *are* a thing, we saw them in action in 2023 when songs like Stephen Sanchez's Until I Found You had huge gains for a week and suddenly dropped. This time we're discussing it happening to songs that are already doing big numbers so it pushes them higher. Not necessarily payola, just that the algorithm is pushing these very popular songs more than usual for a period of time before moving to something else. It doesn't stop songs being huge in their own right, and if Espresso is benefiting from autoplay, she'd probably be on 800-900k now anyway, it just gives an extra push.
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1st May 2024, 02:12 PM
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Lol saying autoplay doesn't exist is like saying global warming is not happening lol
we see every fricking week, every fricking week |
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1st May 2024, 02:19 PM
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I wasn’t saying it doesn’t exist, I was more questioning the 2+ weeks of it more than anything else.
It’s happened with plenty of songs before and the effects there seemed to be for like a few days before the song drops of and the song dives back down again |
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1st May 2024, 02:21 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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I'd say 1 week is more accurate!
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1st May 2024, 02:48 PM
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sorry I didn't read about the 2 weeks, I was actually replying to Liam sota
2 weeks I don't know, actually it does sound like too much but we've had autoplay affecting the charts for a long time now, with some very blatant cases like Roger Sanchez or even Pink-Trustfall, which is a song I love but no problem admiting it charted so high cos of autoplay the most blatant recent case was Djo, the autoplay was so heavy and constant I almost swift from Spotify to Apple lol
Reason for edit: change to tone regarding another poster
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1st May 2024, 03:28 PM
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The fortnight cds are and “exclusive” release available for 48 hours ending tonight at 7pm, so I reckon they’ll end up shipped out tomorrow to maintain #1. Would love to see Sabrina snatch it but also would be cool to see fortnight at #1 for a fortnight 🤣 I’m sure if this happens Sabrina should easily grab it next week
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1st May 2024, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ 1st May 2024, 03:48 PM) I was actually replying to this Liam sota person Disagreements about music/chart related stuff is obviously fine, but please have a respectful tone when addressing or referring to other members...! |
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1st May 2024, 04:37 PM
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No matter what I play, I get 'Espresso' after it on autoplay pretty much 100% of the time
 I am not complaining though because it's one of my favourite songs of the year so far! 
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1st May 2024, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ 1st May 2024, 05:37 PM) No matter what I play, I get 'Espresso' after it on autoplay pretty much 100% of the time I am not complaining though because it's one of my favourite songs of the year so far! Same, I used to get that for Olivia Rodrigo obsessed and Hoziers too sweet, but now it’s Sabrina |
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1st May 2024, 08:33 PM
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Spotify Chart Update (30/04)
 01 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 1,054,924 02 02 Hozier – Too Sweet 703,611 03 03 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 643,107 04 04 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 559,800  05 06 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 505,447 [*PEAK*]  06 05 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 474,395 07 07 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 444,843 08 08 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 428,397 09 11 Dasha – Austin 380,169 10 09 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 365,418 11 15 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 337,202 [*PEAK*] 12 10 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 328,569 13 12 Djo – End of Beginning 320,837 14 17 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 304,060 15 21 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 294,801 16 18 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend 292,486 17 13 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 290,845 18 14 Taylor Swift – So Long, London 285,559 19 16 Taylor Swift – My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 276,649 20 24 Tate McRae – greedy 271,819 21 19 Taylor Swift, Florence + The Machine – Florida!!! (feat. Florence + The Machine) 270,591 22 25 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 269,442 23 26 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 265,674 24 20 Taylor Swift – But Daddy I Love Him 262,293 25 23 Taylor Swift – Guilty as Sin? 261,943 26 22 Taylor Swift – The Tortured Poets Department 260,484 27 29 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words 242,670 28 28 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM 238,382 29 27 Taylor Swift – The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 224,708 30 30 Bryson Tiller – Whatever She Wants 215,707 31 32 Drake – Push Ups 214,777 32 34 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 202,450 33 33 SZA – Saturn 194,809 34 39 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 191,672 35 37 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That 188,563 36 44 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 187,729 37 45 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 186,590 38 31 Taylor Swift – loml 186,237 39 43 Sabrina Carpenter – Feather 185,500 40 42 Dua Lipa – Illusion 183,533 41 41 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 179,966 45 49 Good Neighbours – Home 167,725 46 50 Ella Henderson, Rudimental – Alibi (feat. Rudimental) 162,492 48 53 Jungle – Back On 74 154,388 52 59 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 151,876 59 82 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 141,463 [*PEAK*] 61 63 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump 140,140 63 67 Artemas – if u think i'm pretty 135,033 68 90 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 131,823 73 113 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan) 128,306 74 74 d4vd – Feel It - From The Original Series “Invincible” 127,150 75 87 Headie One, Stormzy, Tay Keith – Cry No More (feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith) 126,157 77 104 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 125,530 [*PEAK*] 80 75 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black 123,778 87 79 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) 122,026 90 86 Pozer – Malicious Intentions 119,512 104 118 Perrie – Forget About Us 113,393 105 114 Daya – Hide Away 113,350 [*PEAK*] 109 107 Fontaines D.C. – Starburster 110,111 111 111 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 109,822 113 103 Yeat – If We Being Rëal 108,150 117 119 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro 106,261 126 149 AJ Tracey – Joga Bonito 102,946 130 115 Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, Playboi Carti – Type Shit 100,992 135 179 Tems – Love Me JeJe 98,709 [*PEAK*] 156 175 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 92,270 157 166 Alex Warren – Before You Leave Me 91,770 165 169 Chappell Roan – Red Wine Supernova 89,567  183 NE Kendrick Lamar – euphoria 85,632 [*PEAK*]
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1st May 2024, 08:36 PM
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Apple Music Chart Update (01/05)
01 01 Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 02 02 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 03 03 Hozier - Too Sweet 04 04 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 05 06 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 06 05 Noah Kahan - Stick Season 07 07 Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 08 09 Teddy Swims - Lose Control 09 10 Dasha - Austin 10 08 Taylor Swift - Down Bad 11 12 Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him 12 11 Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department 13 13 Taylor Swift - My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 14 14 Taylor Swift - Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 15 15 Taylor Swift - So Long, London 16 16 Beyoncé - TEXAS HOLD 'EM 17 18 Artemas - i like the way you kiss me 18 17 Taylor Swift - Guilty as Sin? 19 NE Kendrick Lamar - euphoria 20 19 Taylor Swift - Florida!!! (feat. Florence + the Machine) 21 21 The Blessed Madonna - Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 22 23 Rudimental & Skepsis - Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan) 23 22 Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 24 20 Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 25 24 Taylor Swift - Fresh Out The Slammer 26 26 Michael Marcagi - Scared To Start 27 25 Taylor Swift - loml 28 29 Perrie - Forget About Us 29 27 Taylor Swift - I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 30 28 Taylor Swift - The Alchemy 31 31 Dua Lipa - Illusion 32 32 NewEra - Birds In The Sky 33 34 David Guetta & OneRepublic - I Don't Wanna Wait 34 33 Ella Henderson - Alibi (feat. Rudimental) 35 35 cassö, RAYE & D-Block Europe - Prada 36 30 Taylor Swift - Clara Bow 37 36 Good Neighbours - Home 38 37 Dua Lipa - Training Season 39 44 Nathan Dawe - We Ain't Here For Long 40 41 Tems - Love Me JeJe 41 39 Headie One & Stormzy - Cry No More (feat. Tay Keith) 42 43 Mark Ambor - Belong Together 44 45 Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten 45 62 Drake - Push Ups 52 58 Future, Metro Boomin & Kendrick Lamar - Like That 58 60 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 59 57 Bryson Tiller - Whatever She Wants 63 64 Lay Bankz - Tell Ur Girlfriend 65 71 Tommy Richman - Million Dollar Baby 68 67 Jungle - Back On 74 74 79 Benson Boone - Slow It Down 75 77 Becky Hill - Outside Of Love 76 82 Olivia Rodrigo - obsessed 79 81 Calvin Harris & Rag'n'Bone Man - Lovers In A Past Life 80 75 Badger & Natasha Bedingfield - These Words 81 76 Tyla, Gunna & Skillibeng - Jump 85 87 Tom Walker - Head Underwater 90 85 Bakar - Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) [Bonus Track] 91 86 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black 92 99 Alok, Tazi & Samuele Sartini - Seek Love (On The Beach) [feat. Amanda Wilson & York] 96 94 J. Cole, Bas & Central Cee - H.Y.B. 98 98 Mark Ronson - Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) [Version Revisited] 110 112 USHER - Kissing Strangers 115 118 Kygo - For Life (feat. Zak Abel & Nile Rodgers) 126 125 Beyoncé & Miley Cyrus - II MOST WANTED 129 127 Jax Jones & Zoe Wees - Never Be Lonely 133 144 salute - saving flowers (feat. Rina Sawayama) 136 135 Switch Disco, R3HAB & Sam Feldt - SLEEP TONIGHT (THIS IS THE LIFE) 147 146 Myles Smith - Solo 152 176 Sonny Fodera - Mind Still (feat. blythe) 179 172 Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott & Playboi Carti - Type Shit
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1st May 2024, 09:17 PM
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Amazon
5. Sabrina Carpenter - "Espresso" 7. Dua Lipa - "Illusion" 14. Shaboozey - "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" 16. Layz Bank - "Tell Ur Girlfriend" 19. Dasha - "Austin" 20. Post Malone - "I'm Gonna Miss Her (Amazon Music Original)" 33. Drake - "Push Ups" 39. Perrie Edwards - "Forget About Us" 60. Chappell Roan - "Good Luck, Babe!" |
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2nd May 2024, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Jessie Where @ 1st May 2024, 11:28 AM) I think you'll find they did: Wasn't it you who had a strop because I said the re release of Girls Aloud album would be a flop because it didn't offer much to us fans who own all their cd singles/albums/sliver box set? For me it isn't that deep to have a strop. This post has been edited by kimberley88: 2nd May 2024, 12:35 AM |
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2nd May 2024, 12:44 AM
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^ Please don’t start this again!
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2nd May 2024, 09:56 AM
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Spotify
 01. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso (956,111) 02. Hozier - Too Sweet (701,530) 03. Taylor Swift - Fortnight (578,336) 04. Artemas - i like the way you kiss me (534,584) 05. Kendrick Lemar - euphoria (527,501) 06. Shaboozey - A Bar Song 13. Mark Ambor - Belong Together 20. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 28. Benson Boone - Slow It Down 29. Badger - These Words 39. Dua Lipa - Illusion 44. Tommy Richman - Million Dollar Baby 66. David Guetta - I Don't Wanna Wait 69. Daya - Hide Away 77. Pozer - Malicious Intentions 87. The Script - The Man Who Can't Be Moved 107. Perrie - Forget About Us 163. Tems - Love Me JeJeThis post has been edited by ElectroBoy: 2nd May 2024, 10:01 AM |
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2nd May 2024, 10:42 AM
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Kendrick's first full day being nearly 200k higher than Drake's oh my (although not really that fair to compare considering Drake's was freely available on YouTube a week before it was put on streaming services)
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2nd May 2024, 10:50 AM
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Kendrick coming through
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2nd May 2024, 11:00 AM
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Slow It Down by Benson becoming a hit
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