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 2024 Formula One Season, Newey to leave Red Bull. |
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 7th February 2024, 01:59 PM
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Looks like we've done a complete 180 in terms of liveries from 2020 when half the grid were predominantly white cars to this season where so far 3 out of 4 revealed are mainly black cars.
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7th February 2024, 03:00 PM
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Mansonette
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There has to be a way around this. All the cars are going to be increasingly hard to distinguish at a glance in some light conditions.
I wonder what Ferrari are thinking right now. It's such an obvious gain weight-wise but the idea of a Ferrari not being Rosso Corsa is bad enough but one being black would enrage the old man. |
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7th February 2024, 03:21 PM
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Well we'll definitely be in for a lot more Croftyisms
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7th February 2024, 03:44 PM
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Looking like all of them are carbon fibre. At least we can use the pink on the Alpine to distinguish it from the Williams. And thank god Sauber has that rancid green - that won’t be tough to miss
The sprint is such a shit concept. It’s too long with the current tyres. I’d be more in favour if they gave them a set of the like 2000‘s Michelins that were indestructible (everywhere that wasn’t Indy) and then we would actually see a sprint. But I think without a return to the 3rd car era we’re not gonna see drivers as willing to take risks on something that is basically meaningless |
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8th February 2024, 02:17 PM
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Silverstone staying until 2034
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13th February 2024, 11:04 AM
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Well this year's Ferrari launch was a lot less interesting than last year's.
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13th February 2024, 11:17 AM
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At least it's red. Let's hope it's fast
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13th February 2024, 01:32 PM
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This year's Red Bull - the RB20 - has been seen (and filmed) out on track at a rather wet Silverstone, 2 days prior to its official launch. Given the quality of the footage it's impossible to see any discernable difference between it and last year's car. This post has been edited by Severin: 13th February 2024, 01:34 PM |
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13th February 2024, 01:48 PM
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Don't think its livery has changed since 2005 tbh.
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13th February 2024, 04:06 PM
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Yeah but I was referring to the car itself really. It doesn't seem to have any major changes to the shape of its bodywork or aero, unlike, say, the Ferrari does
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13th February 2024, 04:15 PM
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Ah I'm wilfully ignorant of all the technical changes cos it's all mumbo jumbo to me mostly. I gathered there wouldn't be much difference to this year's cars as we're part-way through the current regs era. Roll on 2026!
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13th February 2024, 04:52 PM
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I expected many of the teams to switch their suspension set up from a push rod to a pull rod, as that had been the RB19's biggest strength. Much more so than the aero package. Seems to be the case so far but it's apparently heavier and harder to fit in the chassis.
This years grid will look a lot more like last year's Red Bulls in their design features. |
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13th February 2024, 05:32 PM
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From what I understood, the pull rod was a key reason behind how the aero could work so effectively and why Red Bulls downwash concept was so effective in comparison to others (may also explain why Alpine struggled in 2023 because they swapped to Push Rod at the rear even tho they were one of the original downwash innovators in 22). It’s giving blown diffuser only working because of Renaults engine mapping vibes
Very interesting to see what happens with those who have stuck to push rod |
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13th February 2024, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Feb 13 2024, 05:32 PM)  From what I understood, the pull rod was a key reason behind how the aero could work so effectively and why Red Bulls downwash concept was so effective in comparison to others Couldn't put it better |
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14th February 2024, 01:03 PM
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Clearer pictures have been posted of the RB20 and there's an obvious difference to the aero around the engine cover. Quite a striking high shoulder line from the HALO to the rear.
New Merc looks nice too but they seem to be talking it down already, but we'll see next weekend how it looks like performing |
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18th February 2024, 06:41 PM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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Formula 1 has urged Red Bull to resolve the controversy surrounding Christian Horner as soon as possible.
Horner, Red Bull's team principal, is facing allegations of inappropriate and controlling behaviour towards a female colleague. Horner, who has led the team since 2005, has denied the allegations. "We hope that the matter will be clarified at the earliest opportunity after a fair and thorough process," an F1 statement read. "We have noted Red Bull has instigated an independent investigation into internal allegations at Red Bull Racing," it added. "We will not comment further at this time." |
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19th February 2024, 09:42 AM
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Random predictions for the season:
One race gets cancelled so we're down to 23 Max wins 20 races, Perez 1, Leclerc 1, Norris 1 Ferrari regain second in constructors and McLaren jump Mercedes to third Aston Martin disappoint, only a couple of podiums for Alonso VCARB make a leap forward back to the midfield, Ricciardo rejoins Red Bull Albon gets a podium for Williams Alpine in no man's land again Stake vs Haas for last place, both Bottas & Zhou dropped at end of season |
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20th February 2024, 10:02 AM
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I don't think I'll go for any real predictions until I've watched the testing but I'll draw a few observations from the launches and interviews.
Haas has acknowledged they'll start the season badly. I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise. Alpine haven't looked like they've made any notable progress. I suspect no great leaps from Sauber, and whilst Williams are talking themselves up we haven't actually seen the car yet and they've decided against a shakedown session. Williams are a genuine unknown going in to testing. Aston Martin will show definite signs of having utilised their latest inhouse factory and development team but may not move up the pecking order. RB will show an improvement and probably move up to fight Aston Martin more often. Ferrari will doubtless improve their pace and team strategy/performance but have they found a way to not destroy their tyres? Sainz will have a point to prove. McLaren will not be held back by a poor start for the first time in 3 years. Should be at the sharper end. Mercedes' new car will be interesting to see. Have they found a better balance this time? Russell will see no reason to yield to Hamilton and Lewis will no like that. Red Bull seem to have seen something they feel they can work with in the Mercedes zero pod design. If Newey is right and as brilliant as ever, this could be another slap in the face to Mercedes. Max will comfortably see off Perez |
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21st February 2024, 06:36 PM
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The RB20 looked very good out there today.
The FIA are also questioning whether Mercedes' front wing is within the spirit of the rules (it's not). |
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22nd February 2024, 09:41 AM
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Second day of testing and we're already talking about drain covers again lol.
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