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Thursday, 11:13 AM
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That said I still think we’ve taken a step forward in the last 3 years. You have to remember that you have nearly 40 countries in the competition, almost all of which take it seriously. That means if we take it seriously too we should win roughly once every 40 years. If we don’t take it seriously we’ll win never. Only if you make it a national institution like Sweden can you win every 5-10 years and that isn’t going to be us. I’m hopeful that we’re moving from the never to the 1 in 40 category - there’ll still be plenty of diff years with that and that’s OK.
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Thursday, 11:42 AM
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Based on the YouTube views of the performances 24 hours of the semi-final, here is where Olly placed:
1. Croatia (1.8M) 2. Ireland (1.8M) 3. Ukraine (1.5M) 4. Finland (891k) 5. Serbia (591k) 6. Cyprus (486k) 7. Lithuania (422k) 8. United Kingdom (381k) 9. Slovenia (352k) 10. Portugal (260k) 11. Luxembourg (251k) 12. Sweden (204k) 13. Germany (163k) I know YouTube views won't neccessarily turn into votes, but could be an indicator where the interest is at this point. I am going to try and do the same with Semi-Final 2, exactly 24 hours after it finishes, to see where they place in this list... But it could suggest that Olly is looking like the top of the second half of the board if this is a good predictor. This post has been edited by Davidson: Thursday, 11:43 AM |
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Thursday, 04:02 PM
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My physical copies have just shipped - would expect ‘Dizzy’ to be high up on the first look chart on Sunday.
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Thursday, 07:28 PM
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Infamy Infamy they all got it in for me
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Czechia is the best so far in Semi 2, I hear Garbage vibes
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Yesterday, 07:51 AM
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Right bang in the centre as song 13 to perform on Saturday.
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23 hours ago
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Oh dear. I'm late to the party, and I want to bring positivity but UK 2024's effort with Olly Alexander is just dreadful. 27 years now without a win - something isn't working.
Staging - 1/10 - it would look great in a pop video, but on the vast Eurovision stage, it feels odd, lost and very self indulgent. Vocals - 2/10 - Based on Tuesday, Olly can't sing live - and was possibly the weakest vocalist on both nights. Blame the tech but a true artist would overcome this. Song - 3/10 - formulaic rubbish - it's just not good enough - not even close. Performance 3/10 - generic and forgettable - look at some of the favourites, UK just gets lost. Prediction - bottom 5 Somebody just said: ' That said I still think we’ve taken a step forward in the last 3 years'. I totally disagree. Sam Ryder was a beautiful fluke. Last year was an abomination, and this years effort is almost as formulaic and beige. We got the same results (hit and miss) when the public decided. Ultimately, its the public who decide and so it shouldn't be left to a few execs to keep choosing the wrong acts. Having acts who are no longer having big hits / number ones perform for the UK isn't working. Olly Alexander was totally the wrong choice. Maybe we should just put Sam Ryder up every year! |
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23 hours ago
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😳 Poor Olly!
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23 hours ago
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I still dont get how Space Man was the hit it was. It’s…. Fine. Lmao. I definitely prefer Olly & preferred Mae too.
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23 hours ago
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Having acts who are no longer having big hits / number ones perform for the UK isn't working. Olly Alexander was totally the wrong choice. His last album in 2022 reached #1 and went silver, and yielded 2 Top 40 silver selling singles. He might not be at his commercial peak but he’s still capable of hits. |
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22 hours ago
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22 hours ago
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His last album in 2022 reached #1 and went silver, and yielded 2 Top 40 silver selling singles. He might not be at his commercial peak but he’s still capable of hits. Yeah, exactly. He's a fairly current name in that respect, it's not like he's coming from the scrapheap and completely washed up or something. |
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21 hours ago
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Olly seems like a good choice on paper, but every year there are 3-4 local Ollys with better songs and vocals, so it's completely lost In the shuffle. He would've needed like the best Y&Y single to have a chance.
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21 hours ago
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Oh dear. I'm late to the party, and I want to bring positivity but UK 2024's effort with Olly Alexander is just dreadful. 27 years now without a win - something isn't working. Staging - 1/10 - it would look great in a pop video, but on the vast Eurovision stage, it feels odd, lost and very self indulgent. Vocals - 2/10 - Based on Tuesday, Olly can't sing live - and was possibly the weakest vocalist on both nights. Blame the tech but a true artist would overcome this. Song - 3/10 - formulaic rubbish - it's just not good enough - not even close. Performance 3/10 - generic and forgettable - look at some of the favourites, UK just gets lost. Prediction - bottom 5 Somebody just said: ' That said I still think we’ve taken a step forward in the last 3 years'. I totally disagree. Sam Ryder was a beautiful fluke. Last year was an abomination, and this years effort is almost as formulaic and beige. We got the same results (hit and miss) when the public decided. Ultimately, its the public who decide and so it shouldn't be left to a few execs to keep choosing the wrong acts. Having acts who are no longer having big hits / number ones perform for the UK isn't working. Olly Alexander was totally the wrong choice. Maybe we should just put Sam Ryder up every year! 100% agreed with this!!! BUT!! I'd change the scores a tad: Staging 5/10 on tv. Remember Loreen's looked awful on stage too, but great on tv Vocals - 2/10 Song - 1/10 Performance -3/10 |
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21 hours ago
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20 hours ago
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Olly seems like a good choice on paper, but every year there are 3-4 local Ollys with better songs and vocals, so it's completely lost In the shuffle. He would've needed like the best Y&Y single to have a chance. I think on paper and on stage it works - we haven’t got a winner but we’ve got massive progression. The expectation is always high for the UK, but after years of sending artists that couldn’t even get a record deal or Top 100 with their entry (ElectroVelvet, Josh Dubovie, Michael Rice., etc) then sending 3 successive current artists that have been hits on their home turf is a massive step for us considering the barren years, if we keep building on this renewed input then the success will come. |
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14 hours ago
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Based on the YouTube views of the performances 24 hours of the semi-final, here is where Olly placed: 1. Croatia (1.8M) 2. Ireland (1.8M) 3. Ukraine (1.5M) 4. Finland (891k) 5. Serbia (591k) 6. Cyprus (486k) 7. Lithuania (422k) 8. United Kingdom (381k) 9. Slovenia (352k) 10. Portugal (260k) 11. Luxembourg (251k) 12. Sweden (204k) 13. Germany (163k) I know YouTube views won't neccessarily turn into votes, but could be an indicator where the interest is at this point. I am going to try and do the same with Semi-Final 2, exactly 24 hours after it finishes, to see where they place in this list... But it could suggest that Olly is looking like the top of the second half of the board if this is a good predictor. An updated list including the semi final 2 bunch, taken at exactly the same time after performances. 1. Croatia (1.8M) 2. Ireland (1.8M) 3. The Netherlands (1.7M) 4. Greece (1.5M) 5. Ukraine (1.5M) 6. Israel (1.1M) 7. Italy (922k) 8. Switzerland (895k) 9. Finland (891k) 10. France (775k) 11. Spain (692k) 12. Serbia (591k) 13. Armenia (574k) 14. Cyprus (486k) 15. Lithuania (422k) 16. United Kingdom (381k) 17. Austria (359k) 18. Slovenia (352k) 19. Estonia (302k) 20. Latvia (289k) 21. Georgia (263k) 22. Portugal (260k) 23. Luxembourg (251k) 24. Sweden (204k) 25. Norway (187k) 26. Germany (163k) Looking like UK will defo be around the 15-18 mark like a lot predict. |
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