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 28th October 2021, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Oct 28 2021, 08:09 AM)  * All trans women are attracted to women Lol no, but you need to talk about this shit however. It's not fair to spring lesbians with this shit. Come on, you know this, I know this. Why is it suddenly complicated? |
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28th October 2021, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Oct 28 2021, 06:00 AM) Yes, you're saying it - a "minority" of women. But is it? You don't even dare to confront a fact. And by the way - if women are less transphobic than men, how comes that women are the ones that are reporting this? By the way: where the f*** is the women? How very cis&white&male of you to speak and get offended on behalf of women. |
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28th October 2021, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Oct 28 2021, 10:15 AM) Lol no, but you need to talk about this shit however. It's not fair to spring lesbians with this shit. Come on, you know this, I know this. Why is it suddenly complicated? Wtf are you on about????? |
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28th October 2021, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Oct 26 2021, 04:26 PM) The data in that article comes from...the leader of an anti trans organisation's survey of 80 of her friends/followers. Half of which said they'd never been coerced by a trans woman! Massive yikes |
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28th October 2021, 03:40 PM
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And the Daily Mail (well known in its history for being supportive of lesbian rights of course
 ) have published an even worse article, again based on hearsay from a lesbian from the LGB Allaince, saying that trans women are trying to pick up girls as young as 14 in clubs. Won't link to it for the hits but getting unbelievably nasty.
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28th October 2021, 04:47 PM
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 The owls are not what they seem
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Thankfully, the BBC article is getting appropriate backlash, it's even being reported in The Times and has a letter that's been signed 10,000 times.
Honestly, where I work in education, I work with several students that identify as 'they' are have even undergone a sex change and gender-neutral toilets and no one bats an eyelid. It's a shame our journalists must keep using their platform to fuel these intolerant views. |
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28th October 2021, 08:19 PM
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Those articles are awful.
Yes it is wrong if you have a 14 year old being pressured into having sex and yes it is wrong if someone who is trans pressurises them into doing so - but it's so worrying that people can't see how dangerous it is to attribute that so generally to a whole section of society. And to argue that people who object to that don't care about the 14 year olds is ridiculous - of COURSE we don't want 14 year olds to be subjected to that but the message should be that 14 years olds shouldn't pressurised by ANYONE regardless of whether they are straight/gay/lesbian/trans etc. People need to imagine how they would feel if such blatantly nasty associations were being put on aspects they identify as by the media to make society as whole more scared of them. |
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28th October 2021, 08:28 PM
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Yes those sensationalist articles certainly do the job of moving the minds of people who are neutral/unsure about how they feel regarding trans people more down the sceptical/hostile scale. Exactly how it was for gay people in the 80s.
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28th October 2021, 09:02 PM
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The second bbc article about the backlash somehow manages to be worse than the first. *insert something about putting shovel down before their hole reaches lava*
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29th October 2021, 01:37 AM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Great to hear from some of our folk who work in education.
I will say myself as someone who used to work in a university I detest the argument "university is a place for debate" that is always pulled out as to why trans people who are students or staff at university should expect to be disrespected. Firstly...it isn't. It's a place of work and studying. A debate society is a place for debate, where everyone going in is aware of the rules of engagement and isn't putting their true feelings on the line. (As some of you will probably have seen that professor Kathleen whatever has now resigned and the media is falling over itself to paint her as a victim while hiding that she is a trustee for that evangelical charity and also apparently writes articles for a rightwing website!) No doubt she will have a book out soon or be angling for a media career that's less hassle than her academia job and a bit of controversy will help get her name shortlisted. |
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2nd November 2021, 04:38 PM
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And although I would have no doubt that Kemi Badenock (equalities minister for f**cks sake) would think this privately, she has only pubically gone out and defended anti-trans former Sussex University professor Kathleen Stock, insisting: “She is probably in step with the majority of the population.”
And yes expect a Times or Telegraph column for Stock within a month tops. |
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2nd November 2021, 04:45 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Dickhead. She should get her head out of Tory land and into the real world where polling suggests quite firmly the opposite
Tho the why they’re going about things with their pals at the bbc and the print media it won’t be long until it’s actually true. |
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2nd November 2021, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Nov 2 2021, 04:45 PM) Tho the why they’re going about things with their pals at the bbc and the print media it won’t be long until it’s actually true. That is completely the case sadly - a horrific war on trans people by Tory run government and Tory owned media, in some cases as it's what they believe due to their old fashioned, closed mind views other times a useful culture war weapon in order to guarantee Tory governments going forward. Divide and Rule x 1000. |
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4th November 2021, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Oct 28 2021, 11:51 AM) Massive yikes Ah yes. Let's remember the greatest hits:  
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4th November 2021, 06:39 AM
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 I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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I don't think those people were featured in a BBC report that aimed to legitimize their hatred of a group.
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4th November 2021, 11:02 AM
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^Exactly. The BBC is not platforming those people quite rightly, and yet they've given a voice to a violent and dangerous rapist who has literally called for genocide of a minority group (bad enough) WITHOUT even acknowledging it.
BBC News. An utter, utter shitshow rn |
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4th December 2021, 06:51 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Latest story in the Telegraph today follows ex-professor Jo Phoenix's quest to get her legal fees paid to sue the Open university for making her feel uncomfortable.
Ms Phoenix set up a 'gender critical' society at the uni and lobbied anti current trans laws, but presents herself as a victim. She wants 100k on her GoFundMe and claims that she is being victimised for private opinions. Predictably the British media are falling over themselves to defend her to the extent that googling her name + trans or bully only brings up reams of pages of how nebulous trans people have bullied HER. Her, the founder of an anti-trans society at her workplace, a public instutution. |
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4th December 2021, 08:21 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Ok well I ain’t paying the open uni until she’s off the payroll. Fick that
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17th January 2022, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Dec 4 2021, 06:51 PM) Latest story in the Telegraph today follows ex-professor Jo Phoenix's quest to get her legal fees paid to sue the Open university for making her feel uncomfortable. Ms Phoenix set up a 'gender critical' society at the uni and lobbied anti current trans laws, but presents herself as a victim. She wants 100k on her GoFundMe and claims that she is being victimised for private opinions. Predictably the British media are falling over themselves to defend her to the extent that googling her name + trans or bully only brings up reams of pages of how nebulous trans people have bullied HER. Her, the founder of an anti-trans society at her workplace, a public instutution. That is just vile! |
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17th January 2022, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Quarantilas @ Sep 1 2021, 08:56 AM) Honestly a little (pleasantly) surprised at Spain. Sadly the vocal minority are quite vicious, David Paisley the Scottish actor and trans ally is having to leave Scotland for his safety such is the level of abuse that he gets. The Scottish Gov needs to just strap it’s grown up pants on and get the GRA reform done and into law so we can stop having this „debate“ that is utterly toxic and harmful. Let’s just affirm people’s rights, get a progressive And freeing law on the books and start letting people live freely and honestly. I think the best way to cut the legs off this toxic crowd of trans- and homophobic bigots is to get it done And show once and for all that like with the arguments against legalising homosexuality and equal marriage that this is nothing but bigotry with no grounding in reality Spain is VERY socially progressive. Far more open-minded and progressive than Little England! |
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