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> Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker, December 2019
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Mart!n
post 10th January 2020, 10:34 PM
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I'm with Chez Wombat on this, to be honest the last 3 movies did not click with me. I love a good sci-fi trilogy Star Wars franchise was never my thing, but for some reason I've seen all 9 movies, don't know why probably because I wanted to know how the story would unfold over nine films. Nothing really beats the first 3 movies, Revenge of The Jedi is the best Star Wars movie I've seen.

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post 11th January 2020, 02:13 AM
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I feel like a lot of people are doing a bit much on this trilogy as a whole tbh. We have to take a few steps back and realise.. how many Star Wars movies are actually any good? Include the spin offs it won't affect the result. The prequel trilogy are still by far the most horrendous of this franchise, so when I see people say that this trilogy is worse than those, I can't help but not take their opinions seriously, personally, and feel that those that DO say that and mean it are living purely off the nostalgia for them, imo.
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post 11th January 2020, 09:52 AM
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I have enjoyed all of them but it’s been obvious there was no clear vision here and that the new films were all about making money. I go backwards and forwards with this trilogy as I do like the films but I don’t feel they were necessary, Return Of The Jedi was the perfect ending and the story was contained well within 6 films with few to no loose ends.

I do like that the story was extended though and I think they’ve ended the trilogy in the best way that they possibly could. It’s just a shame there was no joined up thinking between each film.

Also, I am a prequels apologist, but they have ALWAYS been given a worse rap than they actually deserve. Some of the CGI is now dated, some of the acting is flat but at the end of the day the story was clear and engaging and they were pushing the boundaries with technology at the time. Not perfect but in my opinion decent films. Yeah, it might be nostalgia for my childhood but that’s just how Star Wars works.

I think some people will have issues with the new trilogy for the reasons highlighted in this thread but just wait 20 years and most people will probably remember them fondly but a very vocal minority will still slate them.


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post 19th February 2020, 11:00 PM
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The dvd has a release date of 20th April. It would have made sense to release this on 4th May instead seeing as dvds get released on Mondays and 4th May happens to fall on a Monday this year

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post 16th August 2020, 06:32 PM
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Finally got round to seeing this and, after hearing lots of negativity, it was better than I was expected. Despite all the cliches, I think it’s more like what Star Wars should be. It’s not breaking the wheel but it’s still a lot of fun along the way. It reminded me that one of the main reasons I don’t like The Last Jedi is that they don’t even go anywhere aside from Finn/Rose whose side plot was rendered inessential to the plot. At least this film had lots of new locations and action going on - if perhaps overfilled to compensate for the previous film.

The biggest flaw is definitely the lack of planning across the trilogy - a really bad decision from Disney and it would be good to see in an alternative universe a solid arc for both characters and plot for the three films. By erasing everything The Force Awakens set up, I just think The Last Jedi meant this film could never win. The only real plotline that passed through all three films was Kylo and Rey’s relationship/the theme of being both good and bad. As said, Finn became a non-character despite having loads of potential in being an ex-Stormtrooper. There was some focus back on that but it just felt like it only touched on it?

Carrie’s unfortunate death did have a massive impact on the film as, with Han & Luke passing in the previous films, it meant there wasn’t that proper tie-in required to be the flashy promoted end to the Skywalker saga. The remaining characters from the original trilogy aren’t exactly main storyline characters. They were definitely stuck with what they could do but the dialogue with Leia was incredibly clunky.

So, it was a lot of fun but also a lot of wasted potential. If only they did have that proper planning and structure, I think it could have been a really strong trilogy. Hopefully lessons are learned from the next one which at least should be able to lose any baggage that may have hindered this trilogy?
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post 16th August 2020, 07:32 PM
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The trilogy has felt so unnecessary. I have enjoyed each film but I don’t think they’ve added anything to the overall story-mainly because of the lack of a coherent plan. The first six films are so nearly tied together and these didn’t really follow them. I’d argue Rogue One and Solo added more to the story.
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post 3rd September 2020, 04:40 PM
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Boyega has come out and slated Disney for his role in the film.

I'm kind of inclined to agree to a point. I don't think they really knew what to do with his character. They went with the female lead and outside of the first movie I don't think they really knew what they wanted to do with Finn. However, the first film set up so many different plots that Rian Johnson just destroyed. But someone at Disney must have had the sign-off on the plot/script, so I guess you can place accountability there.
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post 3rd September 2020, 06:06 PM
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The sad thing was in the original script by Colin Trevorrow, he was given a much more prominent role which made use of his stormtrooper past. I mean I'm sure that script would've had to go through lots of rewrites anyway (Leia plays a prominent role for one), but gosh, it would've been something better than what we got for sure.

I'm really glad he's said this, they had potential for such an interesting character they hadn't done before and he was brilliantly cast and yet they completely shafted him to focus on a story that was pretty much exactly the same as the original trilogy did. But even excusing that, it's pretty unforgivable to make a big deal out of promoting diversity and then doing nothing with it. Like that gay kiss they put in for a nanosecond when the Resistance had won that was purposefully that length so it can be edited out in overseas territories where homosexuality is still censored. It's one of the many reasons I'm completely ambivalent towards them these days.
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post 3rd September 2020, 07:09 PM
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As I said in an earlier post, the whole trilogy has been rendered unnecessary by a lack of planning and an attempt to please a fan base that can’t agree on anything. Finn was promoted as a major character in the first film, was slightly shafted in the second and then pretty much just a soundboard for Rey in the last film. Jon Boyega was worth more than that.
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post 4th September 2020, 12:16 AM
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The main problem with Rise of Skywalker for me, was that they tried too hard to give "fan service" and rectify everything Rian screwed up with TLJ, as opposed to what they should have done and they should've just continued it from TLJ...

However, a big mistake in the first place was getting 3 different directors to helm a different episode. They should've just had JJ Abrams do all three (or at least a bigger role in the production of the sequels) instead.
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