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 Yesterday, 08:28 AM
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Does anyone else think the fallout from the Ocon incident is way overblown? Yeah it was a dumb move but losing his seat over it is ridiculous, especially as he's been the better driver of the 2 so far this season.
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Yesterday, 08:55 AM
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Mansonette
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If it were an isolated incident I'd think it was very harsh but Ocon has been colliding unnecessarily with teammates (Alonso, Perez, Gasly) and rivals (Verstappen in Brazil springs to mind) for years without learning anything by his mistakes. He disobeyed explicit team instructions on Sunday, as he has done frequently before and has a 5 place grid penalty for his next race, effectively ruining their chances of a decent result in Canada before the weekend has started.
He's only been marginally better than Gasly in the races this year and very much looks like he's the destabilising influence in the team. You have to wonder whether he was a factor in the loss of both Alonso and Piastri, I'm not convinced but it's a possibility. Alpine have understandably lost patience with him and decided he needs to sit on the naughty step for a while. He's not a team player and he's not a good enough driver to get away with it forever. On balance I say it's a reasonable decision. Frankly, I'd like to see more teams take a harder line with errant drivers. There's plenty of potential talent waiting for a chance and too many on the grid that are there because they're seen as a safe option, benching him for a race with demonstrate Alpine's disappointment in him and allow them to test another driver under race conditions. It's a win for Alpine all round. But at the moment it remains a rumour and that may be enough for Alpine to make their point. This post has been edited by Severin: Yesterday, 08:56 AM |
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Yesterday, 08:59 AM
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In general working environments something like that would be punished
I do think it’s slightly overblown but then I’m comparing it to reckless or poor drivers (K-Mag, Stroll, Sargent) In a way I kind of hope they do do it, as it’d be a reminder that drivers should not be able to just do what they want without consequence |
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Yesterday, 09:05 AM
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I mean I'm all for giving new blood a rare chance, we saw how well Lawson and Bearman performed in their unexpected opportunities. I just think it's a bit too kneejerk...
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Yesterday, 09:32 AM
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I also think it's an over-reaction
especially since he's been doing it for ages and Alpine never had an issue before and always supported him rather than Alonso for instance Ocon has always been Alpine's protected child so I'd be very surprised if they kick him out now |
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Yesterday, 10:06 AM
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Im not sure it’s an overreaction because it feels like this is coming to the end of a long process of unhappiness with his attitude towards his teammates
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Yesterday, 12:30 PM
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but why they never had an issue before? Alonso was complaining about him for ages and ages and ages and Alpine was acting like Ocon was the #1 and Alonso didn't matter at all
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Yesterday, 01:14 PM
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You can only give someone a pass or benefit of the doubt for so long. Patience always runs out eventually
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