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I think Luton & Burnley will have a very good chance of coming straight back up. Sheffield United will struggle I think and it doesn't help that they will start on -2 points, they're that bad that I think they could even be more likely to get relegated again rather than get promoted. Bramall Lane wont be seeing Premier League football again for a good number of years I reckon.
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Tuesday, 09:35 PM
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Only the second time ever all 3 promoted teams go straight back down. So it's actually even rarer than all 3 staying up.
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Tuesday, 10:08 PM
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Leicester will make sure that it doesn't happen again next season I think. Ipswich will find the jump from Championship to Premier League too tough, especially as they've jumped from League One to the Premier League within 2 seasons. For the play off contending teams it's only Leeds maybe that could do it if their defence wont be too leaky.
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Wednesday, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Houdini @ 14th May 2024, 11:08 PM)  Leicester will make sure that it doesn't happen again next season I think. Ipswich will find the jump from Championship to Premier League too tough, especially as they've jumped from League One to the Premier League within 2 seasons. For the play off contending teams it's only Leeds maybe that could do it if their defence wont be too leaky. To be fair everyone thought that would happen to Luton this year and they've done way better than people expected. Leicester won't be able to buy many players int he summer, and will have to sell Dewsbury-Hall most likely. I think Ipswich will need to be smart in the transfer window, but they've probably a great chance. You'd really be looking at which Premier League clubs might have a blip - Everton maybe still, Forest, Wolves? Seems weird this City team will win the league again when I don't even think this is Pep's best City team. On the plus side, at least Arsenal fans will be able to experience the same torment Liverpool have faced, looks like we have another season of Pep at leasr. |
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Yesterday, 12:10 AM
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I think when Toney leaves Brentford in the Summer that will signal the beginning of the end of Brentford's time in the premier league, so I will feel quite confident that they will struggle next season to survive the drop, even though they had a lot of this season without him. Forest are certainly going back down eventually. Everton get away without every season.
Leicester will stay up next season I feel sure about that, I think Ipswich could do a Brentford and be stable for a few seasons. It's between Leeds and Southampton for me who joins them in going straight back down to the championship next season whilst they continue to regroup and restructure. |
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Yesterday, 08:02 AM
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Actually I don't think Luton have been that good tbh. 26 points is a paltry total, it's only because of the other 2 promoted teams being even worse and the deductions for Everton & Forest that have kept their 'fairytale' survival push more in the spotlight. They had that run of putting 4 past Brighton and Newcastle in back to back games but since then they've been absolute wet garbage.
Leicester should comfortably survive next season. I'm just relieved that we don't have the exact same 3 teams coming back up or else this season was a complete waste of time (save for Villa coming top 4) and a club with the pedigree of Ipswich will be a credit to the league. QUOTE(awardinary @ 15th May 2024, 01:10 AM) I think when Toney leaves Brentford in the Summer that will signal the beginning of the end of Brentford's time in the premier league, so I will feel quite confident that they will struggle next season to survive the drop, even though they had a lot of this season without him. Forest are certainly going back down eventually. Everton get away without every season. Toney has been absolutely dreadful since his return and Brentford were doing well before his return anyway so think they'll be fine even if they get rid tbh. Forest are a weird one as they have a really strong squad that should be on par with Palace/Bournemouth but there's a Sunderland vibe about them that they'll eventually face the drop. Everton won't be in any danger next season unless they lose their 2 CBs. I feel someone like Fulham could be a 'shock' relegation next season... |
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Yesterday, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ 15th May 2024, 12:26 AM) Seems weird this City team will win the league again when I don't even think this is Pep's best City team. On the plus side, at least Arsenal fans will be able to experience the same torment Liverpool have faced, looks like we have another season of Pep at leasr. I don't think Arsenal fans can complain to much tbh for that very reason. 89 points if they get it is not enough these days to win it, it's not comparable to your ridiculous 97 point season for example. Although they will only be 1 point behind the Invincibles season! |
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Yesterday, 08:42 AM
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Son really missed a golden chance at 0-1 in the 87th minute. Would be a shame it city won again. Them charges need to be hurried up
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Yesterday, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(Dobbo @ 15th May 2024, 09:02 AM) Actually I don't think Luton have been that good tbh. 26 points is a paltry total, it's only because of the other 2 promoted teams being even worse and the deductions for Everton & Forest that have kept their 'fairytale' survival push more in the spotlight. They had that run of putting 4 past Brighton and Newcastle in back to back games but since then they've been absolute wet garbage. Leicester should comfortably survive next season. I'm just relieved that we don't have the exact same 3 teams coming back up or else this season was a complete waste of time (save for Villa coming top 4) and a club with the pedigree of Ipswich will be a credit to the league. Toney has been absolutely dreadful since his return and Brentford were doing well before his return anyway so think they'll be fine even if they get rid tbh. Forest are a weird one as they have a really strong squad that should be on par with Palace/Bournemouth but there's a Sunderland vibe about them that they'll eventually face the drop. Everton won't be in any danger next season unless they lose their 2 CBs. I feel someone like Fulham could be a 'shock' relegation next season... Crystal Palace are a very underrated team. Olise, Eze, and Wharton are all good enough to start for England and then Maleta or whatever his name is looks a real talent too. Injuries ruined their season. They're superior to everybody in the bottom half by quite a distance |
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Yesterday, 09:37 AM
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Leicester are likely to start on minus points and need to sell before they can buy, they seem to have messed up FFP way more than Everton or Forest have. I don't think they're certs to stay up at all. Maresca is worse than Kompany for being Pep-lite, there's no way he can play like that in the league above with that squad.
I think there's another good case for all three promoted teams to come back down again, Ipswich's style won't translate when they concede that many chances and goals and I don't rate any of the play-off teams that much. Brentford have suffered massively from injuries this season, Forest's team can be very good and their first XI is way better than where it is in the table, and no one else looks close to dropping to <35 points, Everton maybe because of finances. This post has been edited by RabbitFurCoat: Yesterday, 09:40 AM |
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Yesterday, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Liam sota @ 15th May 2024, 09:44 AM) Crystal Palace are a very underrated team. Olise, Eze, and Wharton are all good enough to start for England and then Maleta or whatever his name is looks a real talent too. Injuries ruined their season. They're superior to everybody in the bottom half by quite a distance This issue Palace will have is there’s no way Eze and Olise stay there this summer. QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ 15th May 2024, 10:37 AM) Leicester are likely to start on minus points and need to sell before they can buy, they seem to have messed up FFP way more than Everton or Forest have. I don't think they're certs to stay up at all. Maresca is worse than Kompany for being Pep-lite, there's no way he can play like that in the league above with that squad. I think there's another good case for all three promoted teams to come back down again, Ipswich's style won't translate when they concede that many chances and goals and I don't rate any of the play-off teams that much. Brentford have suffered massively from injuries this season, Forest's team can be very good and their first XI is way better than where it is in the table, and no one else looks close to dropping to <35 points, Everton maybe because of finances. Agreed I think Leicester will be shoe-ins to go down, they’ve a good squad but they need to add to it and they’re going to be limited by spending in the summer, same will apply to Everton too. Everton are the ones to watch out for, I’m fairly certain at this pint they’re more likely than not to end up in administration very shortly.. Branthwaite is their big sellable asset and they are definitely weaker without him. |
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Yesterday, 01:58 PM
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I'm not so sure they both leave, Eze screams of Zaha to me. Always linked with a move but for whatever reason sticks around, he's very injury prone too. Can see Chelsea laying down 100M or something on Olise though lol.
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22 hours ago
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QUOTE(Dobbo @ 15th May 2024, 09:02 AM) Actually I don't think Luton have been that good tbh. 26 points is a paltry total, it's only because of the other 2 promoted teams being even worse and the deductions for Everton & Forest that have kept their 'fairytale' survival push more in the spotlight. They had that run of putting 4 past Brighton and Newcastle in back to back games but since then they've been absolute wet garbage. Leicester should comfortably survive next season. I'm just relieved that we don't have the exact same 3 teams coming back up or else this season was a complete waste of time (save for Villa coming top 4) and a club with the pedigree of Ipswich will be a credit to the league. Toney has been absolutely dreadful since his return and Brentford were doing well before his return anyway so think they'll be fine even if they get rid tbh. Forest are a weird one as they have a really strong squad that should be on par with Palace/Bournemouth but there's a Sunderland vibe about them that they'll eventually face the drop. Everton won't be in any danger next season unless they lose their 2 CBs. I feel someone like Fulham could be a 'shock' relegation next season... Think that’s unfair comment about Luton tbh considering the comments in August about them they have overperformed at this level considering their wage bill, stadium, fan base and players. Also agree Ipswich will struggle due to the way they play, they generally win 3-2 or 4-3 due to the expansive way McKenna plays! |
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8 hours ago
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Interesting that Wolves have put forward the VAR motion. Can’t help but feel scrapping it is not the solution, what happens when there’s an incident and a club says “oh VAR would have saved this”. We have a problem with how we use the technology, we have inconsistent thresholds and the referees update their collective views across the season. We’ve crap officials, this should be the first thing that’s addressed.
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8 hours ago
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It’s a mess. You can’t now only have VAR for purely clear errors because people’s interpretation of that is different. I would have liked offsides to be for non marginal ones but if the technology is there and it’s marginal people will say it doesn’t matter it’s offside just use the technology. So we are in a situation where it’s VAR or no VAR there is no real in between. I would opt for no VAR but it feels like a step backwards too
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7 hours ago
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The main reason for bringing in VAR was to override "clear and obvious errors". Well what is clear and obvious is that is precisely NOT what we are seeing but rather re-refereeing of the game. Added to that the unacceptably long delays which is even worse for the fans in the stadia and I don't see many benefits of its use as it's currently being used. I'm as pro-VAR as they come but I don't think I'd miss it if the Prem scrapped it.
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1 hour ago
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I’d get rid of it for marginal offsides - thets the biggest joke as it’s not 100% right given the frames issue. Then it should be used for things like the penalty that was going to be given to Wolves last weekend until it was found to be a challenge outside the box. Things like that can be mistaken and it should be used for it. But not for every marginal detail for me.
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