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 The Beatles rate 2024, Top 10 revealed |
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 Friday, 05:13 PM
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 Rob aah
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'A Day In The Life' a great start to the top 10. I gave 'Help!' my maximum points so no shade
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Friday, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Severin @ 17th May 2024, 05:08 PM)  Out of curiosity, what would chartjack2's point have done for its placing? I think I still voted for it but it was mid table maybe. |
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Friday, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Severin @ 17th May 2024, 05:08 PM) Out of curiosity, what would chartjack2's point have done for its placing? Interestingly this would be a “non mover” at #10 but with “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” and “Come Together” climbing to #8 and#9 respectively and the 2 next to reveal dropping out. I’ll show the full alternative results at the end. 
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Friday, 08:05 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(Severin @ 17th May 2024, 05:06 PM) I think when you place A Day in the Life within its historical context, it just goes to show what a completely groundbreaking and astonishing piece of work it is. It really is a masterpiece of writing, arrangement and production. Nobody had ever recorded anything quite like it before and it sits comfortably among the most influential songs of all time. With due respect to other acts like The Velvets, Pink Floyd, Beach Boys, Byrds, Hendrix etc, the entire late sixties music scene underwent a seismic shift in their wake, with A Day in the Life regularly cited as a point of inspiration. Even to this day it still gets rated as one of the greatest songs of all time, and the juxtaposition from John's surrealistic parts to Paul's more traditional section only serves to make the song even more strange, dream like and otherworldy. The transition to and from that is exceptional too. For many of my younger years I would casually dismiss The Beatles and much of the era as the music of my parents. Combined with my earliest exposure to music being Punk and Disco (and I didn't like Disco), The Beatles seemed like a relic for a different generation to cling to, even though their songs were always on the radio they seemed irrelevant when compared to all the Punk/New Wave and later Post Punk and New Romantic stuff that seemed so fresh and exciting. But if you go back and look at their work with the benefit of histrical context and free from any prejudiced thoughts... boy were they a phenominal band when they went for it. Fantastic post! |
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Saturday, 08:48 AM
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Ticket To Ride so close, a major influence on the sound of poprock at the time, and a key moment in Help! the movie, basically the first travelogue-frollicking-video. Loved it. Still sounds fresh.
I agree with the comments on A Day In The Life (and apply them to Sgt Pepper the album in general), ground-breaking, but I prefer other Lennon psychedelia tracks and I also was never that keen on the Paul bits. In the end I voted for favourites rather than on musical merit, have to go with my heart not my head, but oh my word that ending! |
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Saturday, 09:12 AM
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Paul ruined it with his part, is there a Paul-free version of the song?
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Saturday, 10:42 AM
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I like Paul’s part of the song. I think it wouldn’t be as good without it as the contrast between those parts keeps the momentum going and keeps it interesting. I always saw it as a deliberate contrast between what’s happening out in the world and the more mundane day to day life of Paul’s part, it works really well imo
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Saturday, 10:48 AM
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Yeah echoing dandy*, for me there’s no song that more perfectly captures waking up from a dream and being confronted by the mundanity of life.
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Sunday, 10:01 PM
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9th: 522 points
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds WhoOdyssey 50 Chez Wombat 46 Roba. 45 popchartfreak 43 jimwatts 43 Jade 41 gooddelta 41 Brer 40 Severin 38 DanG 35 King Rollo 32 Notorious D.O.T. 31 steve201 20 JulianT 12 dandy* 5 …ready for it 0 Bjork 0 ben08 0 And so beating “A Day In The Life” by all of 1 point, with eight 40 plus scores and a maximum from WhoOdyssey, it’s this other psychedelic adventure, also from “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”. An Elton John cover was a US #1 in 1974. While many have thought it to be no coincidence that the title’s principal words abbreviate to “LSD”, the inspiration apparently was far more innocent, when John’s son Julian said his school drawing was of Lucy in the sky with diamonds. The track uses a Lowrey organ and an Indian tambura drone, distorted in the studio to create the sense of the imagination going somewhere unusual. |
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Sunday, 10:33 PM
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Lucy in the Sky... one of my absolute favourites, such a joyful psychedelic trip
 A Day in the Life is also brilliant and obviously one of the most groundbreaking pieces of popular music there's ever been. I agree that the contrast between vocals is what makes it so good.Help! above both of these is a bit questionable, it feels a bit of an odd one out in this top 10. |
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23 hours ago
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I agree that Help! being yet to appear seems odd but to me it sits right at the crossroads between them being a pop group who mainly wrote boy meets girl love song and them embracing more thoughtful subject matter. For a band like that to release a track that is essentially about depression and desperation, yet nailed to a great pop sensibility, was quite a leap back then.
I suspect it's done so well here because it has broad appeal, being appreciated by those who like the earlier sound and those who admire the later works too. I really like it, even if I don't place it amongst their best but it is a milestone in their career and in John's writing, in the same way that Paperback Writer was for Paul. |
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15 hours ago
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Love Lucy In The Sky, it was one I heard now and again before Elton took it chart-bound in 1974 with help from John - they were palling around a lot in '74 and of course John's last public appearance on stage was at Elton's gig after he bet John Whatever Gets You Through The Night (with Elton on it) would top the US charts, his first-time and the last solo Beatle to do it.
The original version is still the greatest though, the imagery and sounds are wonderful and the chorus is top notch, and it was very 1967. |
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6 hours ago
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8th: 525 points
Help! Chart run: 5-{1}-1-1-2-2-5-8-13-18-23-23-29-40->14 Roba. 50 …ready for it 49 gooddelta 49 Bjork 47 ben08 45 steve201 43 popchartfreak 36 danG 36 Severin 35 Chez Wombat 28 JulianT 26 Jade 25 Notorious D.O.T. 22 dandy* 18 Brer 9 King Rollo 6 jimwatts 1 WhoOdyssey 0 This was the title track for the 5th studio album in 1965 and the accompanying film, and both a UK and US #1. Bananarama reached #3 in the UK with a cover for Comic Relief in 1989. John has said that he wrote it about his anxiety at The Beatles’ quick rise to fame, and it perhaps marked the beginning of him expressing more complex emotions in his songwriting. It’s the only pre 1966 single to make the Top 10 in these results, assisted by half a dozen top 10 rankings and a maximum from Roba., though a ballad from the same year is still to come. Those who find this position too high for it will be pleased to know that with chartjack2’s snub it tumbles to 14th in the version 2 results. 8th to 16th were very tight but the top 7 are well clear (and their positions are almost the same in the two versions of the results). |
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6 hours ago
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Mansonette
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Help is perfectly fine but it suffers when compared to Lananeeneenoonoo
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6 hours ago
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Delighted that 'Tomorrow Never Knows' is still to come! I know Beatles classics extend past their singles, it's a ground-breaking piece of music, plus a lot of taste in this part of the forum is pretty left-field - but even so, I'm very surprised. Intrigued to see exactly where it will finish.
My first listen of The White Album melted my brain a bit with so many mixed feelings but 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' quickly stood out as a favourite, was great to see George continuing to provide quality moments. 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' was instantly shiny to me with its all-out psychedelia, from the marmalade skies to John's vocal processing - absolutely the kind of madness I can get on board with. On the other hand, I needed time to appreciate the genius of 'A Day In The Life', but eventually got there and now I adore it more than ever. It was really interesting to hear all the different takes of it on the Sgt. Pepper's re-release, including the final note. That creative process unfolding really helped me to appreciate just how right the final product feels. 'Help!' is a great pop song, not too surprised that it's done so well as it was a rare good result for the group when I sent them to an AF Idol spin-off on here 
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6 hours ago
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Rob aah
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'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' was another stellar discovery for me as unbelievably wasn't aware of it before!
'Help!' is just joyful and fun and superb for me. Felt it deserved my top points. |
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Help! is a great song of course and was on the fringes of them taking a more experimental approach to songwriting much like Ticket to Ride, just don't think it's quite as groundbreaking as the rest here.
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4 hours ago
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I love Help!
For me it's one of those songs that is so good because it feels quite poppy, effortless, upbeat and catchy, but has a lot more depth when you peel back the layers. |
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3 hours ago
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Not ashamed at all that I gave Help! nothing - it’s a very slight song from their worst album.
My favourite memory of it is probably its use in the Only Fools and Horses’ Jolly Boys Outing episode
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2 hours ago
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Shakin Stevens
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Love ‘Help!’ Like many of their early pop moments it’s so brilantly produced and delivered and I think people take the early stuff for granted at how good it really was. It helped them go on and be able to deliver the later genius stuff post 1965!
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