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awardinary
post 25th July 2023, 12:00 PM
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At the risk of displeasing Bré with inevitable stats requests from participants, I thought it would be fun to share and compare some national statistics.

I admired the work that went into presenting BJSC 137 by Doctor Blind back in 2021 with interesting statistics for all participating nations at the time, and I wanted to try and replicate some of these stats now for a new era of participants.

But this is what it looked like at the time for a couple of examples;



Of course the presentation and detail was second to none, and we thank Doctor Blind for such attention to detail back then! heart.gif

But now we are well past that time, what has changed for you, can you see progress or decline in your nation's history?

Here is a template below;
    First Appearance: BJSC ###
    Total Appearances: ## (as of BJSC 156)
    Total Qualifications: ## (##%)
    Total DNQ's: ## (##%)
    Longest Qualification Streak: # (BJSC ###-###)
    Longest DNQ Streak: # (BJSC ###-###)
    Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): #
    Hit Rate (Top 10 Finishes ÷ Appearances * 100): #
    Highest Final Position: #
    Highest Final Points: #
    Highest Final Votes: #
    Lowest Final Position: #
    Lowest Final Points: #
    Lowest Final Votes: #
    Semi-Final Wins: #
    Total Final Points to Date: ####
I am not sure how many, if any, will have a go at doing their own stats, but would be good to compare. wink.gif
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awardinary
post 25th July 2023, 12:18 PM
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Moved my stats to another post to allow for a pastable template in the OP;

If I have calculated correctly, then here are the latest stats for my nation Zanmatony as at July 2023;
    Total Appearances: 36 (as of BJSC 156)
    Total Qualifications: 22 (61%)
    Total DNQ's: 14 (39%)
    Longest Qualification Streak: 8 (BJSC 141-148)
    Longest DNQ Streak: 4 (BJSC 93-96)
    Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 4
    Hit Rate (Top 10 Finishes ÷ Appearances * 100): 11.11%
    Highest Final Position: 4th (BJSC 147)
    Highest Final Points: 252 (BJSC 147)
    Highest Final Votes: 32 (BJSC 98)
    Lowest Final Position: 41st (BJSC 146/155)
    Lowest Final Points: 83 (BJSC 146)
    Lowest Final Votes: 12 (BJSC 146)
    Semi-Final Wins: 1 (BJSC 147)
    Total Final Points to Date: 3,341
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danG
post 25th July 2023, 12:58 PM
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    First Appearance: BJSC 35
    Total Appearances: 118 (as of BJSC 156)
    Total Qualifications: 85 (72%)
    Total DNQ's: 33 (28%)
    Longest Qualification Streak: 11 (BJSC 99-109)
    Longest DNQ Streak: 5 (BJSC 36, BJSC 41-44) [did not participate BJSC 37-40]
    Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 19
    Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 6.2
    Highest Final Position: 1st (BJSC 92, 113, 131)
    Highest Final Points: 369 (BJSC 92)
    Highest Final Votes: N/A
    Lowest Final Position: 41st (BJSC 89)
    Lowest Final Points: 52 (BJSC 51)
    Lowest Final Points (modern era): 103 (BJSC 89)
    Lowest Final Votes: N/A
    Semi-Final Wins: 5 (BJSC 81, 92, 111, 131, 139)
    Total Final Points to Date: 14,052
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Dobbo
post 25th July 2023, 01:54 PM
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Neat idea! magic.gif

First Appearance: BJSC 78
Total Appearances: 78 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 55 (70%)
Total DNQ's: 23 (30%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 9 (BJSC 109-117)
Longest DNQ Streak: 3 (BJSC 134-136)
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 16
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 4.8
Highest Final Position: 2 (BJSC 120)
Highest Final Points: 298 (BJSC 83)
Highest Final Votes: 34 (BJSC 83)
Lowest Final Position: 41 (BJSCs 126 & 143)
Lowest Final Points: 72 (BJSC 143)
Lowest Final Votes: 10 (BJSC 143)
Semi-Final Wins: 0
Total Final Points to Date: ask Bré
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Colm
post 25th July 2023, 02:36 PM
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Longest DNQ Streak: 0

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witchsting
post 25th July 2023, 02:38 PM
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Qween
post 25th July 2023, 05:30 PM
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First Appearance: BJSC 33
Total Appearances: 124 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 107 (86%)
Total DNQ's: 17 (14%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 22 (BJSC 114 - 135)
Longest DNQ Streak: 2 (BJSC 43 - 44, BJSC 102 - 103, BJSC 108 - 109, BJSC 136 - 137)
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 45
Hit Rate: 2.95 (34%)
Highest Final Position: 1 (BJSC 69, BJSC 71, BJSC 125, BJSC 132, BJSC 142, BJSC 143)
Highest Final Points: 18 Point System: 351* (BJSC 77) [3rd place], 12 Point System: 249 (BJSC 69) [1st Place]
Highest Final Votes: 38* (BJSC 77)
Lowest Final Position: 39/41 (BJSC 84) [Lowest relative position 2nd last in BJSC 33, BJSC 39)
Lowest Final Points: 25* (BJSC 39)
Lowest Final Votes: ?* (BJSC ??)
Semi-Final Wins: 11 (as of BJSC 155)
Total Final Points to Date: 18,814

* I THINK, Bre can perhaps confirm if he cares to do so
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jimwatts
post 25th July 2023, 05:47 PM
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Great idea, though for some of these we can include the current BJSC (e.g. number of Qs, DNQs) and some we can't until after the final - and if you only joined BJSC this year, that could change things a lot laugh.gif
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Cowboy Cody
post 25th July 2023, 06:27 PM
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First Appearance: BJSC 74
Total Appearances: 83 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 77 (92.77%)
Total DNQ's: 6 (7.23%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 32 (BJSC 87 - 119)
Longest DNQ Streak: 2 (BJSC 120-121)
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 25
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 3.32 (30.12%)
Highest Final Position: 1 (BJSC 87, BJSC 108, BJSC 129, BJSC 146)
Highest Final Points: 18 Point System: 432 (BJSC 87) [1st place]
Highest Final Votes: 44 (BJSC 87)
Lowest Final Position: 41st (BJSC 128)
Lowest Final Points: 83 (BJSC 128)
Lowest Final Votes: ask Bray
Semi-Final Wins: 4 (BJSC 77, BJSC 79, BJSC 87, BJSC 129)
Total Final Points to Date: 15,119

this feels like a mixture of "doing great" and "could do better", really only getting by due to brute forcing my way through the contest
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Silas
post 25th July 2023, 07:15 PM
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République d‘Áskorza (Fotherington Islands/Republikken or République d’ or Ashton)


First Appearance: BJSC I (1)
Total Appearances: 156 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 113 (72,4%)
Total DNQ's: 43 (27,6%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 13 (BJSC 26-38) - Without 1BF contests it’s 11 from 138-148
Longest DNQ Streak: 4 (BJSC 22-25) - Broken only by 26 being a 1BF contest
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 32
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 4,875
Highest Final Position: 1st x2
Highest Final Points: idk
Highest Final Votes: idk
Lowest Final Position: 40th (I don’t think Rd‘Á as ever finished last)
Lowest Final Points: idk
Lowest Final Votes: idk
Semi-Final Wins: like 7 or something
Total Final Points to Date: idk. Thousands
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Ansel
post 25th July 2023, 08:20 PM
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First Appearance: BJSC 140
Total Appearances: 17 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 11 (65%)
Total DNQ's: 6 (35%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 5 (BJSC 149-153)
Longest DNQ Streak: 2 (BJSC 142-143)
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 1
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 17 (that doesn't sound right, have I misunderstood this one?)
Highest Final Position: 4th
Highest Final Points: 291
Lowest Final Position: 39th
Lowest Final Points: 81
Semi-Final Wins: 0 (highest I've ever been is 4th)
Total Final Points to Date: 1775
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Brer
post 25th July 2023, 08:30 PM
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The 'hit rate' with this calculation would be interpreted as your nation gets a top 10 hit on average every [x] number of contests. Think it would be more intuitive to calculate it the other way round (as the Doctor Blind graphics did) but magic.gif

QUOTE(Calvin Maxwell @ Jul 25 2023, 07:27 PM) *
this feels like a mixture of "doing great" and "could do better", really only getting by due to brute forcing my way through the contest


Please elaborate on what part of those stats gives you 'could do better' xx
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post 25th July 2023, 08:37 PM
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What is 'brute forcing' you way through the contest?
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post 25th July 2023, 08:37 PM
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First Appearance: BJSC 42
Total Appearances: 113 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 73 (65%)
Total DNQ's: 40 (35%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 5 (BJSC 112-116, 8 not counting a break from the contest that year)
Longest DNQ Streak: 7 (BJSC 44-50)
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 15
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 13%
Highest Final Position: 1st (Nyteout - Angels Forever)
Highest Final Points: 333, as above
Highest Final Votes: 32 (I'm assuming as above as I can't be bothered to go through all my top 10 hits to confirm, Bre can correct me if I'm wrong x)
Lowest Final Position: 18 Points: The Snake Charmer - Nageena (Siren of the Sands) (41st/42) 12 Point system: Bastille - Overjoyed / Woman E - You Stole That Summer (Bright Light Bright Light remix) / Feathers - Land of the Innocent (29/29, 31/31, 30/30 respectively)
Lowest Final Points: 103, Varien - A Pale White Horse (18 Points), 36, Bastille - Overjoyed (12 Points)
Lowest Final Votes: Idk, too much to trawl through, I assume one of the above x
Semi-Final Wins: 3
Total Final Points to Date: No idea, need Bre for this x
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Brer
post 25th July 2023, 08:38 PM
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Anyway sure why not ~ (I could definitely just generate these stats for every country pretty quickly but what would be the fun magic.gif)

First Appearance: BJSC 19
Total Appearances: 135
Total Qualifications: 108 (80%)
Total DNQs: 27 (20%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 24 (BJSCs 132-155)
Longest DNQ Streak: 3 (BJSCs 19-21, 34-36 & 54-56) - 4 including a broken streak of 34-36 & 38
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 23
Hit Rate (Appearances ÷ Top 10 Finishes): 5.87 (17.0%)
Highest Final Position: 1 (BJSCs 67 & 74)
Highest Final Points: 344 (BJSC 74)
Highest Final Votes: 36 (BJSC 123)
Lowest Final Position: 39 (BJSCs 28 & 151)
Lowest Final Points: 13 (BJSC 32) (after a 33% deduction)
Lowest Final Votes: 2 (BJSC 28)
Semi-Final Wins: 7 (BJSCs 57, 61, 79, 113, 148 & 150)
Total Final Points to Date: 16,711

kinda neat that I have an exactly 80% qualification rate right now

The highest & lowest stats are kinda distorted by the existence of the One Big Final era, plus the change in the voting system from BJSC 74 onwards. Counting only the current era (74-present):

Lowest Final Position: 39 (BJSC 151)
Lowest Final Points: 94 (BJSC 108)
Lowest Final Votes: 12 (BJSC 108)

(highest as above except only BJSC 74 for highest position obvz)

And for the pre-74 era excluding the One Big Final contests:

Highest Final Position: 1 (BJSC 67)
Highest Final Points: 218 (BJSC 67)
Highest Final Votes: 33 (BJSC 67)

Lowest Final Position: 31 (BJSC 68)
Lowest Final Points: 22 (BJSC 25)
Lowest Final Votes: 8 (BJSC 25 & 40)
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post 25th July 2023, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(Brer @ Jul 25 2023, 09:30 PM) *
Please elaborate on what part of those stats gives you 'could do better' xx


Haha yeah I was thinking that... Cody you've qualified in 93% of contests, there is no "could do better". laugh.gif
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post 25th July 2023, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Oliver @ Jul 25 2023, 09:39 PM) *
Haha yeah I was thinking that... Cody you've qualified in 93% of contests, there is no "could do better". laugh.gif

Unless you are The Spodic Empire with a 100% success rate! wink.gif

This has been great to see so many get involved, I thought it was going to just be me at first. laugh.gif

Also I did indeed misunderstand the Hit Rate formula. I always assumed it meant how many Top 10 finishes you have had in the total number of appearances you’ve had and the result is your success percentage. I guess I got that one muddled up somehow. unsure.gif
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post 25th July 2023, 09:16 PM
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For a % the number of contests would need to be the divisor, but the other way works as bray says as a „I finish top 10 every x contests“
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post 25th July 2023, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(awardinary @ Jul 25 2023, 10:11 PM) *
Also I did indeed misunderstand the Hit Rate formula. I always assumed it meant how many Top 10 finishes you have had in the total number of appearances you’ve had and the result is your success percentage. I guess I got that one muddled up somehow. unsure.gif


Hit Rate- was just (No of Top 10 finishes divided by total number of entries) * 100 to get it as a percentage rather than a decimal. So for example, for Pavel it would be 'never', divided by 'too many' xx

I think when I was working on these originally I also had a 'Hipster Smoothie' rating that was out of 10.
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post 25th July 2023, 09:27 PM
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First Appearance: BJSC 74 (Last Lynx - 'Curtains')
Total Appearances: 83 (as of BJSC 156)
Total Qualifications: 72 (86.75%)
Total DNQs: 11 (13.25%)
Longest Qualification Streak: 14 (BJSC 114-127)
Longest DNQ Streak: 1 (BJSC 77, 80, 86, 92, 103, 111, 113, 128, 137, 141, 145) - still not experienced a proper DNQ streak!
Top 10 Finishes (in a BJSC final): 24
Hit Rate (top 10 finishes vs. number of entries): 28.91% (this falling a fair bit since the wonderful graphic from Dr B in the OP was made sleep.gif)
Highest Final Position: 1st x2 (Rompasso - 'Ignis' and X-Perience - 'A Neverending Dream')
Highest Final Points: 323 (Mssingno - 'Scope')
Highest Final Votes: 37 (X-Perience - 'A Neverending Dream')
Lowest Final Position: 40th (Tetrica - 'Brujería')
Lowest Final Points: 104 (BETHY - 'Utopia')
Lowest Final Votes: 14 (Yoshitaka Hirota - 'hazy iii' and Tempers - 'Hell Hotline')
Semi-Final Wins: 4 (Mssingno - 'Scope', Claptone - 'Birdsong' (feat. Zola Blood), Somnium - 'Sinking' and Paola & Chiara - 'Vamos a bailar (Esta vida nueva)' - none of these being final winners!
Total Final Points to Date: 13,973
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