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___∆___ View member profile	Yesterday, 10:19 PM Post #341
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 25 March 2007 Posts: 21,527 User: 3,155	QUOTE(Smint @ 13th May 2024, 07:16 PM) Wouldn't it be fairer if UK (and the other big 4 countries) had to qualify like all others? Has that every been seriously considered and if not, why not? It’s been discussed at length, and ultimately if the ‘Big 5’ didn’t contribute the amount of money they currently do to the contest then there would be no contest (or certainly not on the scale we’re used to).


Smint View member profile	Yesterday, 10:34 PM Post #342
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 21 February 2021 Posts: 3,665 User: 124,514	Thanks for clarification but that feels a bit "all countries are equal but some are more equal than others" But we live in a world where money talks. Although the fact that UK phoned in its entrants with no.hope of winning for several years but people still watch means that maybe there would still be healthy ratings for a UKless show f they didn't qualify on merit.


JulianT View member profile	Yesterday, 10:40 PM Post #343
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 20 April 2009 Posts: 8,713 User: 8,705	It would be interesting to know in other countries how much them not being in the final affects the ratings. I’ve long thought auto-qualifying isn’t all it’s cracked up to be as it actually means you’re statistically likely to have a higher proportion of very low finishes in the final. Better that the song is put out of its misery in the semis if it isn’t good enough.


Sour Candy View member profile	17 hours ago Post #344
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 22 December 2009 Posts: 30,580 User: 10,275	QUOTE(JulianT @ 13th May 2024, 11:40 PM) I’ve long thought auto-qualifying isn’t all it’s cracked up to be as it actually means you’re statistically likely to have a higher proportion of very low finishes in the final. Better that the song is put out of its misery in the semis if it isn’t good enough. That is the reason why Germany has done so badly in recent years - two last positions in a row 2022-2023. Now they did way better. It's a bit like a gamble for the automatic qualifiers.


darrens94 View member profile	11 hours ago Post #345
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 3 July 2014 Posts: 1,002 User: 21,047	QUOTE(Smint @ 13th May 2024, 11:34 PM) Thanks for clarification but that feels a bit "all countries are equal but some are more equal than others" But we live in a world where money talks. Although the fact that UK phoned in its entrants with no.hope of winning for several years but people still watch means that maybe there would still be healthy ratings for a UKless show f they didn't qualify on merit. I think part of the appeal to UK viewers is tuning to see how bad our Eurovision entry is. Then if we send something decent like Sam and there is a bit of hype the papers pick up on then they tune in to see what all the fuss is about. Take that away and you end up losing a lot of casual viewers.


BillyH View member profile	6 hours ago Post #346
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 10 July 2008 Posts: 2,150 User: 6,614	I remember 2010 having a really low rating in the UK compared to most others in the last twenty years, probably because there was very little hype for Josh Dubovie to do well at all compared to Jade and Blue either side of it and no obvious big novelty entries that year to tune into. I think it also took place on a very sunny day which might have hit ratings further. Many of my friends this year didn’t even realise it was on compared to the massive publicity Liverpool got, and yeah no one ever thought Olly had a shot at winning compared to his almost-namesake Molly a decade ago, which was another big ratings year here.


spiceboy View member profile	5 hours ago Post #347
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 6 September 2017 Posts: 11,924 User: 39,568	I wouldn't watch the show if it wasn't for the UK being in it and I suspect the majority of the UK wouldn't either. The lure of it is the inevitable lack of televotes or the surprising votes from some juries, the campness but also how bad the show is really. It's always incredibly naff with moments of brilliance which makes it so entertaining.