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post 9th May 2024, 11:16 PM
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I expect to wake up and see Israel overtaking Croatia :/
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post 9th May 2024, 11:22 PM
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Israel now as low as 3/1 drama.gif
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post 9th May 2024, 11:48 PM
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Assuming juries only give Israel, say 80 points, and they then hypothetically get a clean sweep on the televote, would any other entry really be able to collect 500 points overall? If Croatia are to do it then they’d need all the 10s, which won’t happen, and at least 150 points from the juries. Quite a tall order to say the least and I don’t see anyone else managing it.

The jury would have to really get well behind Croatia or Ukraine in a big 200-250 points way I guess.


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post 10th May 2024, 12:08 AM
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If Israel win it’ll change the contest totally - over to EBU who banned Russia and Belarus and will now have to deal with the fallout out of a potential Israel win and host.
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post 10th May 2024, 07:03 AM
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We'll see what happens both diplomatically and in terms of public mood but on the current trajectory I don't see how the contest can be hosted by Israel next year, if it stays on the current trajectory that is.

All evidence points to this year's Israel vote as being minoritarian but I'm still cynical because it's difficult to imagine the situation being anymore catastrophic than it is now, and I fear that in a year's time fatigue will have set in and large swathes of the public just wouldn't care.

If the geopolitical situation with Ukraine had been different (and therefore, like Israel, Russian had never been banned in 2022) and Russia won this year, would the general population care enough about war crimes to be outraged at a Russia 2025 host now that the war is long gone from headlines?


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post 10th May 2024, 12:46 PM
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To win;

6/5 Croatia
3/1 Israel
15/2 Switzerland
16/1 France
22/1 Ukraine
25/1 Ireland
35/1 Italy
80/1 Netherlands
250/1 Finland
250/1 United Kingdom

Israel as low as 2/1.


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post 10th May 2024, 01:06 PM
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Can totally see France and Switzerland being top on the jury vote & then it’s all down to the public
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post 10th May 2024, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Herbs @ 10th May 2024, 02:06 PM) *
Can totally see France and Switzerland being top on the jury vote & then it’s all down to the public


Francw will flop again. Ireland will top the jury vote. If this DOES become political voring, ans I doubt it, then Ireland will also get a lor of votes
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post 10th May 2024, 01:33 PM
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Odds: (Coral)

Croatia 5-6f
Israel 9-4
Switzerland 6-1
France 12-1
Ukraine 14-1
Ireland 16-1
Italy 25-1
Netherlands 50-1
Austria 150-1
Cyprus 150-1
Finland 150-1
Georgia 150-1
Greece 150-1
UK 150-1
Armenia 200-1
Estonia 200-1
Lithuania 200-1
Norway 200-1
Spain 200-1
Sweden 200-1
Germany 300-1
Slovenia 300-1
Luxembourg 400-1
Portugal 400-1
Latvia 500-1
Serbia 500-1
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post 10th May 2024, 01:43 PM
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Really hope Isreal aren’t in the top 10 at all, the fact they are second is a joke. Hoping the running order will knock them down and hoping the jury don’t give them loads of votes
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post 10th May 2024, 01:48 PM
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Israel, were 20/1 with Coral now down to 9/4, the way this is going they could challenge Croatia for favouritism.
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post 10th May 2024, 01:58 PM
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I can't see Israel getting much from the televote or the jury. Ireland will win jury vote. France's latest ballad is overhyped. Juries still haven't caught on tot he fact that those always flop these days.you can remove it from the odds for a clearer picture.

I think Israel is getting spammed in the bookies due to people thinking it eill ge tthe sympsthy vote after being booed. It eon't. If the vote DOES!! turn political, then Ireland will ALSO heavily benefit.
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post 10th May 2024, 02:30 PM
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Did you miss the part where they got 39% of the votes in Italy?
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post 10th May 2024, 02:36 PM
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Who did
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post 10th May 2024, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(*Tim @ 10th May 2024, 03:30 PM) *
Did you miss the part where they got 39% of the votes in Italy?


Have you seen the follow up statement from Italy?
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post 10th May 2024, 03:57 PM
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Imagine thr propaganda win for Putin if Israel does win though!! drama.gif He can scream about wrstern double standards and demand to be let back in!!!
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post 10th May 2024, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(SemiDongContest @ 10th May 2024, 02:58 PM) *
I can't see Israel getting much from the televote or the jury. Ireland will win jury vote. France's latest ballad is overhyped. Juries still haven't caught on tot he fact that those always flop these days.you can remove it from the odds for a clearer picture.

I think Israel is getting spammed in the bookies due to people thinking it eill ge tthe sympsthy vote after being booed. It eon't. If the vote DOES!! turn political, then Ireland will ALSO heavily benefit.


I’m actually so tempted to place a £10 bet on Ireland at 25/1. unsure.gif something about it screams winner.
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post 10th May 2024, 06:15 PM
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Tips from the Racing Post on Eurovision


https://www.racingpost.com/sport/special-ev...h-aOptT8K3EgLk/
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post 11th May 2024, 12:48 PM
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To win;

17/20 Croatia
3/1 Israel
9/2 Switzerland
22/1 Ireland
25/1 France
33/1 Ukraine
50/1 Italy
250/1 Armenia
250/1 Finland
250/1 Greece
250/1 Sweden
250/1 United Kingdom
300/1 Austria
300/1 Georgia
300/1 Norway
375/1 Lithuania
400/1 Spain
500/1 Cyprus
500/1 Estonia
500/1 Germany
500/1 Latvia
500/1 Luxembourg
500/1 Portugal
500/1 Serbia
500/1 Slovenia
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post 11th May 2024, 10:16 PM
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Switzerland 4/5f
Croatia 11/8
France 14/1
Ireland 16/1
Israel 20/1
Italy 100/1
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