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post 16th May 2012, 07:32 PM
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It's ridiculous there's no thread for this amazing show.

Just finished s01e04. I can't even count how many ROFL moments it had.

Troy and Shirley 4eva (like chris 1 5 2 would say).
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post 16th May 2012, 09:05 PM
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chris 1 5 2 hasn't really got round to watching this yet. It's on the list but it doesn't really look that good from what i've seen? a bit TOO ott i think
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post 16th May 2012, 09:10 PM
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I am loving the current series for many reasons, but prime among them that they've realised how RUBBISH Britta is and constantly make fun of that fact.
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post 16th May 2012, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(152chris @ May 17 2012, 01:05 AM) *
chris 1 5 2 hasn't really got round to watching this yet. It's on the list but it doesn't really look that good from what i've seen? a bit TOO ott i think

Bitches be crazy.

I was on the fence too until I watched episode 3.
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post 17th May 2012, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(randomfurlong @ May 17 2012, 01:10 AM) *
I am loving the current series for many reasons, but prime among them that they've realised how RUBBISH Britta is and constantly make fun of that fact.

Britta was already rubbish, 3 episodes in. Surprised it took them so long to realise that.
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post 18th May 2012, 06:59 PM
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The paintball episode.

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post 19th May 2012, 03:06 PM
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Dan Harmon out as showrunner of Community
"Dan Harmon will not be returning as showrunner of NBC's Community, and whether he'll remain involved at all with the series he created at remains very much in doubt. Sony Pictures Television, which produces the series with Universal Television, has closed a deal with Happy Endings writers David Guarascio and Moses Port to join Community as showrunners and exec producers. The deal comes less than a week after Vulture broke the news that Harmon hadn't been signed on for season four and that no negotiations between him and Sony had taken place. Vulture hears that now that Sony made its deal with Guarascio and Port, it plans to ask Harmon to remain involved as a writer and consultant -- but not as the person in charge of the show. (He's expected to remain a "consulting producer" no matter what). Given Sony's decision to make a deal for Harmon's replacement without telling Harmon directly, it seems a longshot that Harmon will agree to a diminished role. This is a very dark timeline, but for people familiar with the situation, it is not at all a surprising development.

Harmon and Sony have been at odds since the first season of Community, clashing over everything from the show's creative direction (the studio and NBC have both, at times, asked Harmon to make the show at least somewhat broader in its appeal) to Harmon's management style (the producer admitted as recently as last month that he was "damn bad" at key elements of his job not related to what gets on the screen). In addition, Community has been plagued with numerous writing staff defections over its three season run. Most recently, longtime exec producers Neil Goldman and Garrett Donovan announced they were leaving for a new deal at 20th Century Fox TV, while directors/producers Joe and Anthony Russo are also no longer part of Sony and thus are not involved in the show on a day-to-day basis.

According to multiple people familiar with the production of Community, Harmon's flaws as a showrunner were at least partially responsible for much of the turnover the past few years. As one person familiar with Harmon's strengths and weaknesses told Vulture, "Dan is a brilliant at ideas, but he's terrible at [management]." Others, however, believe Sony and NBC execs made errors, too. The fact that Sony didn't even call Harmon to see if a deal could be done -- if only to maintain at least the illusion that it was trying to keep Harmon around -- will almost certainly be cited by Harmon supporters as proof of the studio's indifference to his involvement with the show going forward.

Another sign of the studio's issues with Harmon came last year, when Harmon's previous overall deal with Sony was up. Sources tell Vulture that the studio offered him a one-year extension rather than a more traditional two- or three-year agreement. Harmon, said to be insulted by the studio's lack of long-term commitment, initially balked at returning, people familiar with the situation say; the studio then offered a one year deal with an option for a second year. The thinking behind Sony's bargaining: If Community didn't make it to season four, it didn't want to keep Harmon on its payroll. Harmon ultimately agreed to a simple one-year deal, potentially giving him more leverage if and when the show was renewed -- or making it easier for Sony to do what it has now done by hiring new showrunners.

Even before NBC officially renewed Community last week, Sony began making overtures to other writers on the show to take over from Harmon. Goldman and Donovan, for example, would have been logical successors to Harmon, but they signed a deal with rival studio 20th Century Fox TV, and most likely would not have wanted to do the show with Harmon out of loyalty to the writer. To land Guarascio and Port, it is understood that Sony stepped up with a significant and lucrative extension of the writers' most recent deal with Sony and that it even agreed to give the producers so- called "points" in the series (that's a percentage of the show's syndication profits). The duo have a strong reputation around Hollywood for balancing quirky with mainstream, working most recently on Happy Endings but also creating the critically admired CW series Aliens in America five years ago. It's understood that several studios had been trying to snag Guarascio and Port for new fall shows, with Universal Television hoping to get Sony to loan out their services so they could run The Mindy Project on Fox.

One of the immediate questions raised in the wake of Sony's decision to hire new showrunners is: Given that Sony and Harmon have long had a difficult relationship, and yet somehow managed to make things work, why did Sony decide to make a shift now? After all, NBC has announced a schedule in which the show is set to move to Friday nights and has only ordered 13 more episodes -- two moves that would signal NBC has little faith in Community's ability to blossom into a bigger hit at this point, and that these next 13 episodes will likely be the show's last. Wouldn't it have just made sense for Sony to tough it out with Harmon for a few more months, rather than risk a fan backlash over Harmon's ouster? Perhaps, but people familiar with Sony's thinking say the studio is probably figuring that while Community with Harmon would have almost assuredly been entering its final season, a change at the top creatively might somehow result in viewers giving the series another chance and NBC becoming more invested in finding a way to keep it alive beyond the 13 episodes ordered. The studio has been tenacious in the past when trying to keep assets alive (it found a way to get Til Death and Rules of Engagement into syndication), and it didn't want Harmon to be the one person determining whether or not Community lived to see 100 episodes. Sony might have also taken into account NBC chief Bob Greenblatt's ambivalent at best attitude toward Community in general and Harmon in particular. The entertainment division chief could not have been much less supportive of Harmon than when he told Vulture he wasn't too concerned about the possibility of a Harmon exit. "Shows lose showrunners all the time and do well," he said.

And yet, bringing on Guarascio and Port is no guaranteed solution. In fact there's a chance fans could revolt if they believe the show's quality has suffered because of Harmon's absence. Harmon has cultivated a strong following on Twitter and via his blog, and it's a certainty that this constituency will see Harmon's exit as nothing short of a catastrophe. Whatever Harmon's reputation, in multiple conversations with Vulture, people associated with the show-- even some who've had issues with his management style -- have repeatedly called him the creative soul of the series, much as Aaron Sorkin was the beating heart of The West Wing. (Sorkin, of course, exited that show three years before its cancellation). One of Community's biggest assets has been its loyal fan base and strong social media presence, and Sony is undoubtedly inviting a backlash by its actions. And yet: It's also quite likely that many fans of the show have no idea who writes or runs the show, and watch only because of the characters on it and the actors -- Joel McHale, Yvette Nicole Brown, Donald Glover, et al -- who play them. If the new team produces funny episodes, Twitter's opinion might not matter." - Vulture


Wow. What are NBC thinking. They've also fired most of the original writers and producers.
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post 19th May 2012, 03:08 PM
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"A few hours ago, I landed in Los Angeles, turned on my phone, and confirmed what you already know. Sony Pictures Television is replacing me as showrunner on Community, with two seasoned fellows that I’m sure are quite nice - actually, I have it on good authority they’re quite nice, because they once created a show and cast my good friend Jeff Davis on it, so how bad can they be.
Why’d Sony want me gone? I can’t answer that because I’ve been in as much contact with them as you have. They literally haven’t called me since the season four pickup, so their reasons for replacing me are clearly none of my business. Community is their property, I only own ten percent of it, and I kind of don’t want to hear what their complaints are because I’m sure it would hurt my feelings even more now that I’d be listening for free.
I do want to correct a couple points of spin, now that I’m free to do so:
The important one is this quote from Bob Greenblatt in which he says he’s sure I’m going to be involved somehow, something like that. That’s a misquote. I think he meant to say he’s sure cookies are yummy, because he’s never called me once in the entire duration of his employment at NBC. He didn’t call me to say he was starting to work there, he didn’t call me to say I was no longer working there and he definitely didn’t call to ask if I was going to be involved. I’m not saying it’s wrong for him to have bigger fish to fry, I’m just saying, NBC is not a credible source of All News Dan Harmon.
You may have read that I am technically “signed on,” by default, to be an executive consulting something or other - which is a relatively standard protective clause for a creator in my position. Guys like me can’t actually just be shot and left in a ditch by Skynet, we’re still allowed to have a title on the things we create and “help out,” like, I guess sharpening pencils and stuff.
However, if I actually chose to go to the office, I wouldn’t have any power there. Nobody would have to do anything I said, ever. I would be “offering” thoughts on other people’s scripts, not allowed to rewrite them, not allowed to ask anyone else to rewrite them, not allowed to say whether a single joke was funny or go near the edit bay, etc. It’s….not really the way the previous episodes got done. I was what you might call a….hands on producer. Are my….periods giving this enough….pointedness? I’m not saying you can’t make a good version of Community without me, but I am definitely saying that you can’t make my version of it unless I have the option of saying “it has to be like this or I quit” roughly 8 times a day.
The same contract also gives me the same salary and title if I spend all day masturbating and playing Prototype 2. And before you ask yourself what you would do in my situation: buy Prototype 2. It’s f***ing great.
Because Prototype 2 is great, and because nobody called me, and then started hiring people to run the show, I had my assistant start packing up my office days ago. I’m sorry. I’m not saying seasons 1, 2 and 3 were my definition of perfect television, I’m just saying that whatever they’re going to do for season 4, they’re aiming to do without my help. So do not believe anyone that tells you on Monday that I quit or diminished my role so I could spend more time with my loved ones, or that I negotiated and we couldn’t come to an agreement, etc. It couldn’t be less true because, just to make this clear, literally nobody called me. Also don’t believe anyone that says I have sex with animals. And if there’s a photo of me doing it with an animal - I’m not saying one exists, I’m just saying, if one surfaces - it’s a fake. Look at the shadow. Why would it be in front of the giraffe if the sun is behind the jeep?
Where was I? Oh yeah. I’m not running Community for season 4. They replaced me. Them’s the facts.
When I was a kid, sometimes I’d run home to Mommy with a bloody nose and say, “Mom, my friends beat me up,” and my Mom would say “well then they’re not worth having as friends, are they?” At the time, I figured she was just trying to put a postive spin on having birthed an unpopular pussy. But this is, after all, the same lady that bought me my first typewriter. Then later, a Commodore 64. And later, a 300 baud modem for it. Through which I met new friends that did like me much, much more.
I’m 39, now. The friends my Mom warned me about are bigger now, and older, bloodying my nose with old world numbers, and old world tactics, like, oh, I don’t know, sending out press releases to TV Guide at 7pm on a Friday.
But my Commodore 64 is mobile now, like yours, and the modems are invisible, and the internet is the air all around us. And the good friends, the real friends, are finding each other, and connecting with each other, and my Mom is turning out to be more right than ever.
Ah, shit, I still haven’t called my f***ing Mom.
Mom, Happy Mother’s Day. I got fired.
Yes, Mom. AGAIN."- Dan Harmon


So messed up. Does NBC really think they're going to find a new audience with 13 episodes on a Friday death slot? He should be the one finishing the show, not two random nobodies.
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post 19th May 2012, 03:09 PM
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They should have fired Chevy Chase instead.
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post 19th May 2012, 03:27 PM
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Let's face it, the next 13 episodes of the show are going to be its last ones. Don't get the logic. Unless Sony are paying those two nobodies SIGNIFICANTLY less than they were paying Dan Harmon?
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post 19th May 2012, 04:31 PM
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Well this seems the wrong time to be saying that i am now ON BOARD
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post 19th May 2012, 04:38 PM
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Well this seems the wrong time to be saying that i am now ON BOARD

Three words.

The paintball episode.

Another four words.

You will pee yourself.
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post 19th May 2012, 09:03 PM
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Troy and Abed have the most amazing chemistry together.
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post 19th May 2012, 09:33 PM
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Season 3 seems to have gone totally off the boil, it's become a really hit/miss show imo, although season 1 is nothing short of amazing tongue.gif.
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post 19th May 2012, 09:35 PM
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Stop saying things like that! I don't want it to be true that the quality has declined cry.gif
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post 20th May 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(Caïn @ May 19 2012, 10:35 PM) *
Stop saying things like that! I don't want it to be true that the quality has declined cry.gif


It's still quite funny, but it's totally off the wall tongue.gif the story arc in the last 6 episodes is really poor though, imo. Parks 4eva <3.
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I don't think the quality has declined. It's just a completely different show every week and obviously not everyone is going to like that.

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post 20th May 2012, 04:14 PM
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I don't think the quality has declined. It's just a completely different show every week and obviously not everyone is going to like that.

Oooh, seeing that it's ALREADY different in every episode (I'm on 2.17) and I'm LOVING it, there's clearly nothing to worry about. biggrin.gif
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Yeah I'm not opposed to the changing style but it's probably a reason why it's a bit hit and miss for me; the Glee parody episode was one of the best ones ever but then some of the others just seem a bit poor tongue.gif. That said it's still one of the better comedies on TV.
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post 22nd May 2012, 01:08 PM
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the pen episode O M G
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