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post Jan 16 2016, 10:14 PM
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Over the course of his over half a century long career, David Bowie, born David Robert Jones had 69 top 50 hits, from 1969 to 2016, from Space Oddity to Lazarus.

Following the sad news of his death last Sunday, we are remembering him and all of his fantastic songs.

But out of the 69 which made it into the top 50, which one is the best? That is what Buzzjack will be deciding over the course of this competition.

As a side note, I'm not sure Fame '90, Under Pressure (Rah Mix) should be included as they are remixes of other top 50 hits. Also, Tin Machine/Maggie's Farm (Live), You Belong in Rock 'n' Roll and Baby Universal are included, but those were as part of Tin Machine and not as a solo artist, so I'll let you decide whether they should be included.

You can give up to three 11s and up to three -1s (you probably won't need them though) and decimal scores are allowed. No -0.5s or 10.5 however.

You have 3 weeks to get in your rates. Closes on 7th February, 18:00.

xx The Laughing Gnome
xx Space Oddity
xx Changes
xx Starman
xx John, I'm Only Dancing
xx The Jean Genie
xx Drive-In Saturday
xx Life On Mars?
xx Sorrow
xx Rebel Rebel
xx Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
xx Diamond Dogs
xx Knock On Wood
xx Young Americans
xx Fame
xx Golden Years
xx TVC 15
xx Sound And Vision
xx Heroes
xx Beauty And The Beast
xx Boys Keep Swinging
xx DJ
xx John, I'm Only Dancing (Again)
xx Alabama Song
xx Ashes To Ashes
xx Fashion
xx Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
xx Up The Hill Backwards
xx Under Pressure (with Queen)
xx Wild Is The Wind
xx Baal (EP)
xx Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
xx Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy
xx Let's Dance
xx China Girl
xx Modern Love
xx White Light/White Heat
xx Blue Jean
xx This Is Not America
xx Loving The Alien
xx Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger)
xx Absolute Beginners
xx Underground
xx When The Wind Blows
xx Day-In Day-Out
xx Time Will Crawl
xx Never Let Me Down
xx Tin Machine/Maggie's Farm (Live) (as part of Tin Machine)
xx Fame '90
xx You Belong In Rock 'n' Roll (as part of Tin Machine)
xx Baby Universal (as part of Tin Machine)
xx Jump They Say
xx Black Tie White Noise (featuring Al B. Sure)
xx Miracle Goodnight
xx The Buddha Of Suburbia (with Lenny Kravitz)
xx The Hearts Filthy Lesson
xx Strangers When We Meet/The Man Who Sold The World (Live)
xx Hallo Spaceboy (with the Pet Shop Boys)
xx Little Wonder
xx Dead Man Walking
xx Thursday's Child
xx Under Pressure (Rah Mix)
xx Survive
xx Seven
xx Everybody Says 'Hi
xx Rebel Never Gets Old
xx Arnold Wayne (with David Gilmour)
xx Where Are We Now?
xx Lazarus


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post Jan 17 2016, 12:11 AM
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A great excuse to go back and listen to some of the classics! I'll listen to these tomorrow, some I've not heard in years.

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post Jan 17 2016, 12:14 AM
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Oh gosh I will be doing this! I have become obsessed with his magic.

Modern Love is my favourite atm
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post Jan 17 2016, 12:43 AM
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For anyone interested, I've made a playlist with all the songs on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/user/joey56/playli...yls4sa8eok64H4a There's a couple I couldn't find including Peace on Earth and1 or 2 at the very end. I've made it collaborative though so if you find them, add them!

Mess that Changes never made the top 40?! I would have given that a good score. Also shame Lazarus didn't do it this week, it would have been quite fitting to include it.
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post Jan 17 2016, 12:53 AM
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I was just at a tribute night where I heard a lot of tracks that I hadn't heard in a while. I'll be voting in this for sure.

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Is there a reason we're not including Baal?
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:28 AM
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Cat People (the Giorgio Moroder soundtrack version) is missing..so added in here, and it's Arnold Layne the old Pink Floyd song. I Could nitpick about the 1975 version of John I'm Only Dancing which was the listed first track of the double A side, but the 1972 version double A I think was an alternate version of the original single and that's certainly the version I was charting high not the much less good plastic soul version.

I'd also prefer to see classic essentially Bowie top 40 tracks in place of the various remixes though:

All The Young Dudes - Mott The Hoople
The Man Who Sold The World - Lulu
Changes - David Bowie (part of the appeal of buying the 1969 reissue was it was an EP essentially, with Changes on it)

and if we disregard the rubbish streaming charts, this week's actual SALES chart top 40 has Changes and Lazarus in it, so I'd suggest dropping the remix of Under Pressure and Fame in favour of those two. All previous chart positions (bar Where Are We Now) are sales charts, some of them during low-selling periods lower than current downloads. tongue.gif

Of course I'm biased....

05 The Laughing Gnome
11 Space Oddity
09 Starman
11 John, I'm Only Dancing
09 The Jean Genie
09 Drive-In Saturday
11 Life On Mars?
08 Sorrow
07 Rebel Rebel
06 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
03 Diamond Dogs
01 Knock On Wood
08 Young Americans
09 Fame
10 Golden Years
05 TVC 15
10 Sound And Vision
10 Heroes
07 Beauty And The Beast
10 Boys Keep Swinging
07 DJ
04 John, I'm Only Dancing (Again)
07 Alabama Song
10 Ashes To Ashes
08 Fashion
08 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
08 Up The Hill Backwards
09 Under Pressure (with Queen)
06 Wild Is The Wind
07 Cat People
07 Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy
10 Let's Dance
09 China Girl
08 Modern Love
07 Blue Jean
09 This Is Not America
08 Loving The Alien
04 Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger)
09 Absolute Beginners
07 Underground
07 Day-In Day-Out
08 Time Will Crawl
08 Never Let Me Down
01 Tin Machine/Maggie's Farm (Live) (as part of Tin Machine)
07 Fame '90
05 You Belong In Rock 'n' Roll (as part of Tin Machine)
06 Jump They Say
07 Black Tie White Noise (featuring Al B. Sure)
08 Miracle Goodnight
08 The Buddha Of Suburbia (with Lenny Kravitz)
03 The Hearts Filthy Lesson
03 Strangers When We Meet/The Man Who Sold The World (Live)
10 Hallo Spaceboy (with the Pet Shop Boys)
06 Little Wonder
05 Dead Man Walking
06 Thursday's Child
08 Under Pressure (Rah Mix)
03 Survive
07 Seven
08 Everybody Says 'Hi
06 Arnold Layne (with David Gilmour)
07 Where Are We Now?
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Severin @ Jan 17 2016, 10:14 AM) *
Is there a reason we're not including Baal?


Haus is allowed to vote if he would like to.


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post Jan 17 2016, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jan 17 2016, 10:28 AM) *
All The Young Dudes - Mott The Hoople
The Man Who Sold The World - Lulu
Changes - David Bowie (part of the appeal of buying the 1969 reissue was it was an EP essentially, with Changes on it)

and if we disregard the rubbish streaming charts, this week's actual SALES chart top 40 has Changes and Lazarus in it, so I'd suggest dropping the remix of Under Pressure and Fame in favour of those two. All previous chart positions (bar Where Are We Now) are sales charts, some of them during low-selling periods lower than current downloads. tongue.gif


I'd like to include these too! Top 40 is a good cap but these are some of his biggest most iconic songs.
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Severin @ Jan 17 2016, 11:14 AM) *
Is there a reason we're not including Baal?

Wasn't that a EP?
Actually, it peaked at No°29 on the Singles Chart, so I'll include it.

As for Changes and Lazarus, I'll just change this to include top 50 hits instead.

However, I wouldn't include songs which were only written by David Bowie, or songs which are covers of David Bowie which went in the top 40. Having a writing credit on a song and performing on a song are two different things.

Also, do we include the Tin Machine songs, Fame '90 and Under Pressure (Rah Mix) or not?
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post Jan 17 2016, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jan 17 2016, 11:28 AM) *
and if we disregard the rubbish streaming charts, this week's actual SALES chart top 40 has Changes and Lazarus in it, so I'd suggest dropping the remix of Under Pressure and Fame in favour of those two. All previous chart positions (bar Where Are We Now) are sales charts, some of them during low-selling periods lower than current downloads. tongue.gif

Where Are We Now? was on a sale-only chart. It was at #6 in January 2013.

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post Jan 17 2016, 11:38 AM
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OMG - I just noticed that my 11 is not on the list as it didn't chart sad.gif
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post Jan 17 2016, 12:24 PM
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I'm happy with the list as is. I'll rate tonight when I get home
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post Jan 17 2016, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Colm @ Jan 17 2016, 11:38 AM) *
OMG - I just noticed that my 11 is not on the list as it didn't chart sad.gif

What would it have been?

Quite a few of my favourites clearly didn't chart either - especially from Heathen & Reality.
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QUOTE(dandy* @ Jan 17 2016, 12:27 PM) *
What would it have been?

Quite a few of my favourites clearly didn't chart either - especially from Heathen & Reality.



Blackstar sad.gif

An astonishing piece
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post Jan 17 2016, 01:14 PM
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Was Suffragette City not a single?

I don't want to meddle too much but how many singles/key tracks are missing this way? Severin, would you know?
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post Jan 17 2016, 01:16 PM
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And just how did Magic Dance not chart?!!! 😮😮😮😮😮
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I do not envy Taylor for having to select and whittle down which tracks to include but it did initially seem like some KEY ones were missing and that's coming from someone who is a recent convert to his music not a longterm fan! 'Suffragete City' probably being the main one now that 'Changes' has been added ohmy.gif

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jan 17 2016, 10:29 AM) *
Haus is allowed to vote if he would like to.

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QUOTE(Taylor Jago @ Jan 17 2016, 10:54 AM) *
Wasn't that a EP?
Actually, it peaked at No°29 on the Singles Chart, so I'll include it.

As for Changes and Lazarus, I'll just change this to include top 50 hits instead.

However, I wouldn't include songs which were only written by David Bowie, or songs which are covers of David Bowie which went in the top 40. Having a writing credit on a song and performing on a song are two different things.

Also, do we include the Tin Machine songs, Fame '90 and Under Pressure (Rah Mix) or not?


I'd say Tin Machine is a band, Bowie was very clear he wanted to work as part of a band. When listing Paul McCartneys greatest hits they tend to include Wings (which had variable Paul McCartney & Wings credits) but not The Beatles. Similarly Genesis and Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel. The Killers and Brandon Flowers etc...

Remixes are not entirely Bowie, they are other people's work using Bowie's original (with his blessing), but Loving The Alien could also fall into that category if it is (41 peak).

so, Lazarus 09
Changes 09

Baals' Hymn 03
Alabama Song 05 (Ive downgraded!)

(both top 40)

When The Wind Blows 07

(top 50)

any not allowed just ignore laugh.gif
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post Jan 17 2016, 03:02 PM
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The main tracks that are absent for me are...

All The Young Dudes
Suffragette City
Slow Burn
New Killer Star
Looking For Water
Blackstar
The Man Who Sold The World
The Stars (Are Out Tonight)
Love Is Lost (Remix)
Shadow Man
I'm Afraid Of Americans

...but that's purely because I'm quite fond of them, I can understand if I'm trying to be a little more objective about it why they're not in there...
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