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AdamAloud
post Mar 11 2018, 10:35 PM
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We've now got all but 2 of the entries (1 from each semi which Bulgaria is definitely coming tomorrow, Georgia apparently not till Wednesday) so now's a good a time as any to start predicting those running orders before the official announcement within the next couple of weeks!

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Semi Final 1

First Half
Albania Eugent Bushpepa - Mall
Azerbaijan Aisel - X My Heart
Belarus ALEKSEEV - Forever
Belgium Sennek - A Matter Of Time
Bulgaria Equinox - Bones
Czech Republic Mikolas Josef - Lie To Me
Estonia Elina Nechayeva - La Forza
Iceland Ari Ólafsson - Our Choice
Israel Netta Barzilai - Toy
Lithuania Ieva Zasimauskaitė - When We're Old

Second Half
Armenia Sevak Khanagyan - Qami
Austria Cesár Sampson - Nobody But You
Croatia Franka - Crazy
Cyprus Eleni Foureira - Fuego
Finland Saara Aalto - Monsters
Greece Yianna Terzi - Oneiro Mou
Ireland Ryan O'Shaughnessy - Together
Macedonia Eye Cue - Lost & Found
Switzerland Zibbz - Stones


Semi Final 2

First Half
Australia Jessica Mauboy - We Got Love
Denmark Rasmussen - Higher Ground
Moldova DoReDoS - My Lucky Day
Norway Alexander Rybak - That's How You Write A Song
Romania The Humans - Goodbye
Russia Julia Samoylova - I Won't Break
San Marino Jessika ft. Jenifer Brening - Who We Are
Serbia Sanja Ilić & Balkanika - Nova deca
The Netherlands Waylon - Outlaw In 'Em

Second Half
Georgia Iriao - Sheni gulistvis
Hungary AWS - Viszlát nyár
Latvia Laura Rizzotto - Funny Girl
Malta Christabelle - Taboo
Montenegro Vanja Radovanović - Inje
Poland Gromee ft. Lukas Meijer - Light Me Up
Slovenia Lea Sirk - Hvala, ne!
Sweden Benjamin Ingrosso - Dance You Off
Ukraine Mélovin - Under The Ladder
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post Mar 11 2018, 10:39 PM
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My first mock up of the year *.*

Semi 1
01. Czech Republic
02. Azerbaijan
03. Lithuania
04. Belarus
05. Estonia
06. Albania
07. Belgium
08. Bulgaria
09. Iceland
10. Israel
11. Greece
12. Austria
13. Switzerland
14. Croatia
15. Armenia
16. Finland
17. Ireland
18. Macedonia
19. Cyprus

Czechia seem an obvious choice of opener, with Azerbaijan getting the 2nd spot due to their unbroken qualification record. Iceland will appear to be thrown a bone to help their chances but in reality they're doomed. Same with Ireland. Cyprus seems more of a show closer but that spot could also go to Finland.

Semi 2
01. Australia
02. Romania
03. Moldova
04. Russia
05. The Netherlands
06. Serbia
07. Denmark
08. San Marino
09. Norway
10. Hungary
11. Malta
12. Ukraine
13. Latvia
14. Georgia
15. Sweden
16. Montenegro
17. Slovenia
18. Poland

Australia seem a good choice to pull in viewers with the opener. Norway I assume will be given the best slot possible because of the name behind it, hopefully he's dead on arrival though. Sweden should get a great spot and Poland closing seems quite likely to me.
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post Mar 11 2018, 10:42 PM
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Hmmm, I would maybe say:

Semi Final 1
01. Israel Netta Barzilai - Toy
02. Iceland Ari Ólafsson - Our Choice
03. Belarus ALEKSEEV - Forever
04. Lithuania Ieva Zasimauskaitė - When We're Old
05. Albania Eugent Bushpepa - Mall
06. Azerbaijan Aisel - X My Heart
07. Bulgaria Equinox - Bones
08. Belgium Sennek - A Matter Of Time
09. Estonia Elina Nechayeva - La Forza
10. Czech Republic Mikolas Josef - Lie To Me
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11. Switzerland Zibbz - Stones
12. Ireland Ryan O'Shaughnessy - Together
13. Greece Yianna Terzi - Oneiro Mou
14. Armenia Sevak Khanagyan - Qami
15. Cyprus Eleni Foureira - Fuego
16. Austria Cesár Sampson - Nobody But You
17. Macedonia Eye Cue - Lost & Found
18. Croatia Franka - Crazy
19. Finland Saara Aalto - Monsters

I would have opened with Lie To Me, but I think Toy could have a massive impact. Monsters and Fuego could go either way. I definitely think Crazy will be used to lead onto whatever song is going to close the show

Semi Final 2
01. Norway Alexander Rybak - That's How You Write A Song
02. San Marino Jessika ft. Jenifer Brening - Who We Are
03. The Netherlands Waylon - Outlaw In 'Em
04. Moldova DoReDoS - My Lucky Day
05. Denmark Rasmussen - Higher Ground
06. Serbia Sanja Ilić & Balkanika - Nova deca
07. Romania The Humans - Goodbye
08. Australia Jessica Mauboy - We Got Love
09. Russia Julia Samoylova - I Won't Break
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10. Georgia Iriao - Sheni gulistvis
11. Sweden Benjamin Ingrosso - Dance You Off
12. Hungary AWS - Viszlát nyár
13. Malta Christabelle - Taboo
14. Slovenia Lea Sirk - Hvala, ne!
15. Montenegro Vanja Radovanović - Inje
16. Poland Gromee ft. Lukas Meijer - Light Me Up
17. Latvia Laura Rizzotto - Funny Girl
18. Ukraine Mélovin - Under The Ladder

Norway to open on name alone. This is a difficult semi to put into an order because a lot of the songs are pretty meh
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post Mar 11 2018, 10:45 PM
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Not a prediction so much as a proposal from me, tried to go a little bit more "out there" than I usually do.

SEMI ONE

01 Estonia
02 Iceland
03 Azerbaijan
04 Belgium
05 Czech Republic
06 Lithuania
BREAK
07 Belarus
08 Albania
09 Israel
10 Bulgaria
11 Switzerland
12 Greece
13 Ireland
14 Macedonia
BREAK
15 Armenia
16 Croatia
17 Cyprus
18 Austria
19 Finland

- I actually think that, as a spectacle and a way to make a big first impression and to kick off Eurovision 2018 in style, Estonia would work really well (and it's not like its chances massively change as a result of going first anyway)
- Israel and Bulgaia as the two "A Listers" in the first half get put as late as possible
- Finland makes the most sense to close the show as it's got enough of an epic climax and at least some kind of impressive staging. Cyprus's party song goes in its natural spot at two from the end and Austria fits between them as something good but of a different style/tempo
- Macedonia get given as big a helping hand they can get by going on before an ad break
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post Mar 11 2018, 10:47 PM
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I want 13 qualifiers from Semi 1 and 7 from Semi 2, there'll be tears on 8th May cry.gif
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post Mar 12 2018, 12:09 AM
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It's crazy how few potential closers there are in semi 1 and openers in semi 2.
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post Mar 12 2018, 02:42 PM
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Portugal have been drawn to perform 8th in the grand final.
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post Mar 13 2018, 01:18 PM
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So now we know all of the songs in Semi 2, I'd run them like this:

01 Denmark
02 San Marino
03 Romania
04 Moldova
05 Russia
06 Norway
BREAK
07 Netherlands
08 Serbia
09 Australia
10 Georgia
11 Hungary
12 Montenegro
13 Poland
14 Slovenia
BREAK
15 Sweden
16 Malta
17 Latvia
18 Ukraine

- Similar to Estonia opening Semi 1, Denmark feels like a good 'epic' way of opening semi 2
- As a previous winner you kinda have to give Norway a not terrible draw but give Australia the pimp slot in the first half as the true A-Listers
- Sweden has to go after a break to give them a few more minutes to wheel their big ass lighting rig on stage (plus Christer will want to save giving Sweden a REALLY good draw until the final
-Ukraine still makes a good, uptempo and show stopping closer.
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post Mar 13 2018, 08:27 PM
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Something like this might be nice and somewhat realistic:

Semi Final 1

01 Azerbaijan Aisel - X My Heart
02 Iceland Ari Ólafsson - Our Choice
03 Belarus ALEKSEEV - Forever
04 Bulgaria Equinox - Bones
05 Israel Netta Barzilai - Toy
06 Lithuania Ieva Zasimauskaitė - When We're Old
07 Albania Eugent Bushpepa - Mall
08 Belgium Sennek - A Matter Of Time
09 Czech Republic Mikolas Josef - Lie To Me
10 Estonia Elina Nechayeva - La Forza
11 Austria Cesár Sampson - Nobody But You
12 Switzerland Zibbz - Stones
13 Armenia Sevak Khanagyan - Qami
14 Finland Saara Aalto - Monsters
15 Greece Yianna Terzi - Oneiro Mou
16 Ireland Ryan O'Shaughnessy - Together
17 Macedonia Eye Cue - Lost & Found
18 Croatia Franka - Crazy
19 Cyprus Eleni Foureira - Fuego

Semi Final 2

01 Norway Alexander Rybak - That's How You Write A Song
02 Romania The Humans - Goodbye
03 Russia Julia Samoylova - I Won't Break
04 Moldova DoReDoS - My Lucky Day
05 San Marino Jessika ft. Jenifer Brening - Who We Are
06 The Netherlands Waylon - Outlaw In 'Em
07 Serbia Sanja Ilić & Balkanika - Nova deca
08 Denmark Rasmussen - Higher Ground
09 Australia Jessica Mauboy - We Got Love
10 Montenegro Vanja Radovanović - Inje
11 Ukraine Mélovin - Under The Ladder
12 Latvia Laura Rizzotto - Funny Girl
13 Georgia Iriao - Sheni gulistvis
14 Malta Christabelle - Taboo
15 Hungary AWS - Viszlát nyár
16 Sweden Benjamin Ingrosso - Dance You Off
17 Slovenia Lea Sirk - Hvala, ne!
18 Poland Gromee ft. Lukas Meijer - Light Me Up
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post Apr 3 2018, 12:51 PM
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Running Order is out!

SF1

01 Azerbaijan Aisel "X My Heart"
02 Iceland Ari Ólafsson "Our Choice"
03 Albania Eugent Bushpepa "Mall"
04 Belgium Sennek "A Matter of Time"
05 Czech Republic Mikolas Josef "Lie to Me"
06 Lithuania Ieva Zasimauskaitė "When We're Old"
07 Israel Netta "Toy"
08 Belarus Alekseev "Forever"
09 Estonia Elina Nechayeva "La forza"
10 Bulgaria Equinox "Bones"
11 Macedonia Eye Cue "Lost and Found"
12 Croatia Franka "Crazy"
13 Austria Cesár Sampson "Nobody but You"
14 Greece Yianna Terzi "Oneiro mou"
15 Finland Saara Aalto "Monsters"
16 Armenia Sevak Khanagyan "Qami"
17 Switzerland Zibbz "Stones"
18 Ireland Ryan O'Shaughnessy "Together"
19 Cyprus Eleni Foureira "Fuego"

SF2

01 Norway Alexander Rybak "That's How You Write a Song"
02 Romania The Humans "Goodbye"
03 Serbia Sanja Ilić & Balkanika "Nova deca" (Нова деца)
04 San Marino Jessika feat. Jenifer Brening "Who We Are"
05 Denmark Rasmussen "Higher Ground"
06 Russia Julia Samoylova "I Won't Break"
07 Moldova DoReDos "My Lucky Day"
08 Netherlands Waylon "Outlaw in 'Em"
09 Australia Jessica Mauboy "We Got Love"
10 Georgia Iriao "For You"
11 Poland Gromee feat. Lukas Meijer "Light Me Up"
12 Malta Christabelle "Taboo"
13 Hungary AWS "Viszlát nyár"
14 Latvia Laura Rizzotto "Funny Girl"
15 Sweden Benjamin Ingrosso "Dance You Off"
16 Montenegro Vanja Radovanović "Inje"
17 Slovenia Lea Sirk "Hvala, ne!"
18 Ukraine Mélovin "Under the Ladder"
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post Apr 3 2018, 12:56 PM
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I think Lithuania and Azerbaijan's ( sad.gif ) chances of Qualifying are gone. Belgium could be borderline just because it will get lost in Czech Republic and Israel. I also feel that Bulgaria (if they don't pull it off live) to Greece section could go either way for them all because they are not pure pop bangers.

SF2 is awful. Literally, don't need to watch until Australia who are 9th.
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post Apr 3 2018, 01:33 PM
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I think Cyprus are the biggest winners from that draw
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post Apr 3 2018, 01:41 PM
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If Serbia don't qualify from being surrounded by such utter shite then I despair!
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QUOTE(Cameron @ Apr 3 2018, 01:56 PM) *
I think Lithuania and Azerbaijan's ( sad.gif ) chances of Qualifying are gone. Belgium could be borderline just because it will get lost in Czech Republic and Israel. I also feel that Bulgaria (if they don't pull it off live) to Greece section could go either way for them all because they are not pure pop bangers.

SF2 is awful. Literally, don't need to watch until Australia who are 9th.


I wouldn’t worry, I think Azerbaijan will still sail through.
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I don't think performing first is necessarily bad by any means, I doubt it will affect Azerbaijan either way.

If I were to call a shock, I don't think Ireland could've asked for anything more...maybe the semi is just too strong but I think it'll stand out and wouldn't be surprised if it just sneaks in.

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Apr 3 2018, 02:41 PM) *
If Serbia don't qualify from being surrounded by such utter shite then I despair!


San Marino >>>
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post Apr 3 2018, 07:09 PM
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Some theorising:

I think the add breaks are planned for after songs 5 and 14 in both semis (Sweden and Finland being on after breaks and they're the two most likely to have big staging setups). So the most shafted is probably Lithuania being on after the break when some people won't get back and invested straight away AND being on before Israel which'll memory hole it instantly so I reckon that they'll probably get whatever Lithuania's "core" vote is and not a great deal more.

I think Montenegro might actually have some kind of fighting chance out of all the ex-Yugos with that late on running order position plus there's a decent level of friendly votes in that semi. That might well be the token "shock" qualifier of the year.

Azerbaijan...hmm. I think in a 19 song semi going first is a bit harder than it would be in a 16/17 song semi. I don't think it majorly changes their chances either way so they could go either way with that one. Lithuania being negged slightly probably helps them out though.

I still can't see Ireland making it, looks like one of the "low" moments of the show that Christer likes to do before setting up a big moment performance like Cyprus (and both semis look like they've got two songs with relatively low chances before the show closer, I don't think that's a coincidence).
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post May 6 2018, 11:03 AM
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UK draw first half for the Grand Final.
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post May 6 2018, 11:24 AM
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Not that it really makes much of a difference but now I’m really quite sure that we’re coming last.
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Spain also draw first half
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post May 6 2018, 11:33 AM
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Stick us on 2nd after a spectacular opener from Czechia or Cyprus and be done with it.
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