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Specify and I'm sure other sites would accommodate. As far as Music Week Reports (and often early charts predictions) go, that's Haven for my site. As far as Charts Info goes, that's Chartsplus for my site. So if you are insinuating that my site takes info from here, you are mistaken. But perhaps you are referring to other sites, then that's okay.

 

But yes, I understand what you mean - it IS very unpleasant to put work into features and providing info, only to have it taken at a moment's notice.

 

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I'm refering to other sites, but anything with my name on Haven should have Buzzjack written on it as well.

 

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I'm refering to other sites, but anything with my name on Haven should have Buzzjack written on it as well.

 

 

Wel if that ever happens to be the case, then I'm sure people on CHC will do so, though I don't believe we've ever had occasion to use anything with your name on it. We do however have a great relationship with Haven and Chartsplus that works in tandem with each other, meaning that we all get along well and benefit each other mutually whilst pursuing common interests (and crediting each other). We don't take info from Buzzjack.

It's no problem to use it, it would be nice if we all shared, but not credit BJ and just lifting the material is an insult. Especially when we always credit chc.
To be honest you(your members etc) do take info from BJ almost every week I get complaints about it.

 

 

It's no problem to use it, it would be nice if we all shared, but not credit BJ and just lifting the material is an insult. Especially when we always credit chc.

 

I'm sorry, but do you have proof of this? I don't believe so. Anything that is posted on CHC is sourced from either Musicweek, Haven or Chartsplus, NOT Buzzjack. Please specifiy EXACTLY which material you are referring to. It does seem strange that so many other sites can get along whilst sharing information yet there always seems to be aggravation, rivalry and accusations from the Buzzjack end.

 

I don't wish to get involved in any sort of commentary or comparisons between sites, but you seem to want to draw it out of me. Simply put, CHC is in existence to serve it's members and does not compete with other sites (in fact, it has reached out and developed strong relations with others, with the unfortunate exception of Buzzjack, but that is not our choice). Sadly it seems that certain posters on Buzzjack (not all, a small minority) have been attacking and spamming our site, trying to create friction and generat erivalry. It doesn't help with administrators and moderators on Buzzjack see fit to take aggressively competitive measures against other sites and posters who have membership of more than one site. It's petty and unnecessary.

 

Time and again, I've attempted for CHC to get along happily without our site being the subject of attacks, insinuations of rivalry or competition with yourselves, yet it seems to be perpetuated here over and over again. I want to get one thing straight - CHC is not competition for Buzzjack, and not a single member of our site would dream of signing up to troll or spam Buzzjack. It's unfortunate the management here were aware that a Buzzjack poster had done that very thing on CHC and hadn't seen fit to alert a CHC admin. There are ways of being diplomatic, keeping good relations, and so forth.

 

Let's also not forget the primary reason people come online to sites like this - it's to enjoy discussing common interests, not to bicker and create drama between other sites. Anyone who loses sight of that fact does so at their peril. -_-

Sadly it seems that certain posters on Buzzjack (not all, a small minority) have been attacking and spamming our site, trying to create friction and generat erivalry.

Well it ain't me... :P

Its that Sweep thing :D

Ahhhhh, well he's hardly one of our hardcore members is he, he likes to cause trouble everywhere, including here. -_-

Well yes :smoke:

He made a thread in the lounge about it but it was deleted.

Well yes :smoke:

He made a thread in the lounge about it but it was deleted.

He made a thread about spamming CHC? :rolleyes:

 

You see, some people think that would please most of us, but it really doesn't, we can't stand this rivalry anymore than they can. <_<

I know :lol:

I have taken to browsing CHC more and more and I would post their a lot if I didn't dislike lots of the posters.

I still have no problem with it tho and I never take info from there cept for my personal use so :)

The basic problem is that chc` fail to credit buzzjack when using buzzjack information. You(mods etc) go out of the way to find it posted in a 3rd party way so as not to credit buzzjack, or you just credit the buzzjack member/mod name for example, saying credit: Mikey.

That natually irritates the originator of the information and other members also.

 

You don't do the same with Haven or CR so why with BJ?

If your not in rivalry, then you simply would not have to do this.

chc` used to share it's information but it seems no more. A BJ mod was banned from chc` today for reasons not known. If they broke some rule, it would be at least seem sensible to let them know why.

 

While this attitutude continues from chc` that imho little will improve.

 

But yes, on the last point I very much agree, we are all here to have a good and friendly discussion.

I hope chc` can get back to that point of which it held when it orignally started and be open and friendly to all.

 

 

Sadly it seems that certain posters on Buzzjack (not all, a small minority) have been attacking and spamming our site, trying to create friction and generat erivalry.

Most likely so, we get cases of that here also you know! O the fun of being an admin! :lol:

It seems all part of moderating forums with the rivalry between the sites that exists and some members feel.

 

I'm looking forward to the time when that becomes only a distant memory.

 

Ahhhhh, well he's hardly one of our hardcore members is he, he likes to cause trouble everywhere, including here. -_-

 

 

Yep. It's SO childish. :lol:

I know :lol:

I have taken to browsing CHC more and more and I would post their a lot if I didn't dislike lots of the posters.

I still have no problem with it tho and I never take info from there cept for my personal use so :)

 

 

And that's the sort of spirit that is good to see - sharing info and not having rivalry is great, that leads to so much less hassle. :)

 

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Yep. It's SO childish. :lol:

It really, really is. :(

The basic problem is that chc fail to credit buzzjack when using buzzjack information. You(mods etc) go out of the way to find it posted in a 3rd party way so as not to credit buzzjack, or you just credit the buzzjack member/mod name for example, saying credit: Mikey.

That natually irritates the originator of the information and other members also.

 

You don't do the same with Haven or CR so why with BJ?

If your not in rivalry, then you simply would not have to do this.

chc used to share it's information but it seems no more. A BJ mod was banned from chc today for reasons not known. If they broke some rule, it would be at least seem sensible to let them know why.

 

While this attitutude continues from chc that imho little will improve.

 

 

Because like i have said, CHC does not glean ANY info from Buzzjack, SIMPLE AS. I've alreadly told you where we source our info from. You fail to understand that it is particulalry your attitude which rubs people up the wrong way - being patronising and attempting to sound superior because of your position is not the way to go.

 

I cannot make this any clearer - CHC does not seek to compete with buzzjack, nor does it seek to damage Buzzjack in any way. But please examine how you view other sites and your attitude towards them - bigger is not always better. And there doesn't always have to be rivalry. The rivalry doesn't come from CHC, it originated here. I'd just as soon have nothing to do with it! If you respect other sites and don't treat them the way you do (I have a complete understanding of how you think of other sites) then there would be no problem. Building a site is a long process - you don't have to bulldoze other places to succeed, bear that in mind.

 

And JESTER was not banned today, an Admin chose to suspend his account until the duration of the chart announcements, for reasons Jester I'm sure understands (whether he agrees with them or not) - he was not banned (unlike other CHC members in such a derogatory and spiteful way).

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