June 21, 201015 yr When talking about flops (and using the word deserve) should remember that charts have nothing to do with quality of songs Yes, in a perfect world Goldfrapp have ten no. 1's.. Sparks should have 15 and Westlife zero. Umbrella Beach: Owl City and his album have absolutely no depth and there's nothing interesting about him..He was clearly a one hit wonder in the first place Undisclosed Desires: Muse chart mainly because of their fanbase and most of the fans had the album. 'Neutron Star Collision' went to no. 11 on download only and dropped like a stone. Edited June 21, 201015 yr by SKOB
June 21, 201015 yr Mini Viva deserved to flop with that hideous excuse of a song. Agnes deserved a consecutive run of top 10s. Beyonce - Broken Hearted Girl Sabrina Washington - OMG - Why did this flop?!?! This was the perfect pop tune! The Killers - This Is The World That We Live In - This was top 10 in NL, but flopped miserably here :( Nerina Pallot - Real Late Starter - Missed the chart completly :( La Roux - I'm Not Your Toy/Quicksand - Should have done better. Frankmusik - Better Off As Two - Should have been a top 10er Alphabeat - DJ - Why did this fail :( i agree with all of the above... 'Hearts don't lie' by Gabriella Cilmi should've been a huge hit too.
June 21, 201015 yr Some thoughts... If the interest is there, the quality of song is a factor. For example Eminem's Not Afraid is a good song and he's still an interesting artist. Same with Kylie's All the Lovers. Public interest + good song = A chart hit (Eminem) Public interest + popular genre + bad song = A chart hit (N-Dubz) No interest + good song = A flop (Sophie Ellis-Bextor) No interest + unpopular genre + good song = A huge flop (currently all the rock songs that are not by new acts like Pendulum or active fanbase like Paul Weller). This is also because of digital era...does someone really think that fans of Paul Weller or Crowded House buy digital downloads? Blogosphere (most alternative and indie songs will never chart because they are everywhere on the internet and their listeners don't buy digital tracks separately) <- I recognize myself here Most flops go under the label "Nobody cares" Luckily, popular and unpopular genres tend to change Edited June 21, 201015 yr by SKOB
June 21, 201015 yr A definite top five when Circus didn't even make it? Trends don't tend to die off completely in the space of three months. 4 Minutes was Timbaland produced and was still top ten/twenty at the time... 1) Circus had been in the singles chart for 2 months before a physical was released; I believe the sales are quite strong. Not the same with IUSA. 2) Any lead Madonna single will be top 5 here without failure!
June 21, 201015 yr Owl City - Umbrella Beach I'm not it's biggest fan, but it had alot of airplay (made #6 or something on the airplay chart) and was follow up to a huge #1 hit... I thought it would AT LEAST make the Top 40...but missed the Top 100 all together. :/ Have no idea what happened there because i do find this better than Fireflies now... I think I read somewhere that it peaked at 193 or something. :mellow:
June 21, 201015 yr Oh yeah, Umbrella Beach flopping was also a big shock. Also, Imma Be. It got to number-one in the USA, so I though it would have aot LEAST gone top 40 in the UK. It got a little bit of airplay, so it wasn't like it went completely without support.
June 21, 201015 yr I knew Owl City would be a one hit wonder and knew from the outset that it'd be one of those follow-ups to a #1 that missed the top 40, however it did even worse than I expected. 'Vanilla Twilight' would've been a more sensible choice but probably wouldn't have got top 40 either.
June 21, 201015 yr A couple that did actually genuinely shock me; Colbie Caillat - Bubbly - top five everywhere else in the world, released twice here and misses the top 40 both times :( Yes, a very definite :cry: to this one missing out.
June 21, 201015 yr I think I read somewhere that it peaked at 193 or something. :mellow: Not quite that low - #110 in fact.
June 21, 201015 yr heres some: Gorillaz- Stylo- It was meant to be their big comeback, yet they completely mucked up the release- and it flopped Kylie Minogue- The One- Again, could've been huge, but no promotion and it flopped Justin Bieber- Somebody To Love- Hes pretty big atm, this featured Usher and I thought it would be another hit for him after Baby- but it flopped and had no video- Im still not sure what happened with this :huh: Yeah Yous- 15 Minutes- I thought this would be huge, it seemed to get such a massive acclaim, yet it just scraped the top 40 Sophie Ellis Bextor/Freemasons- Heartbreak Make Me A Dancer- Wasnt technically a flop I know, but I expected a Spiller-style top 3 smash for this, yet it just reached 11 as has been stated, Goldfrapp- Rocket- their comeback, so I expected straight top 10 and success that matched Ooh La La, didnt even chart :( This wasnt released but Leona Lewis' Outta My Head could've done really well had it been released, but instead they chose the bland Happy and I Got You Edited June 21, 201015 yr by chart wizard
June 21, 201015 yr Not Myself Tonight has major shock to me how it flopped. I knew it was #1 but it was #10 material but it peaked at #12 and only spent 3 weeks in the top 40. Ultra shocking. Huge radio stations snubbed the song TV airplay was kept a minimal No promotion whatsoever These are just huge faults. You can't just expect the song to do good with none of those key facts.
June 21, 201015 yr Not Myself Tonight has major shock to me how it flopped. I knew it was #1 but it was #10 material but it peaked at #12 and only spent 3 weeks in the top 40. Ultra shocking.Huge radio stations snubbed the song TV airplay was kept a minimal No promotion whatsoeverThese are just huge faults. You can't just expect the song to do good with none of those key facts. It was surprising, but not even her fans could hide that it was an extremely average comeback and sounded like she was trying to copy Gaga (plus it was the reverse that was being said when Gaga arrived), it was obviously universally recognised like this oh and to add to my list- Little Boots- Earthquake- had all the makings of a hit, yet missed the top 75
June 21, 201015 yr Kylie Minogue- The One- Again, could've been huge, but no promotion and it flopped Don't even get me started on this one. :arrr: First of all they cancelled the physical when she's one of the biggest physical sellers out there and would have needed those at the time to even stand a chance of getting a decent position, they released an ultra cheap video for it TWO WEEKS after it had fallen out of the top 75. Quite easily the biggest cock-up release I ever saw happen, maybe tied with Natasha Bedingfield's 'Say It Again'.
June 21, 201015 yr Muse - Undisclosed Desires. One of my most favourite Muse songs ever and one of a few of their songs that didn't reach top 40 :( Could have been huge. It had the potential to cross over to non-Muse fans and could have been played to death by radio and tv. I thought it was going to do well.
June 21, 201015 yr No interest + unpopular genre + good song = A huge flop You have to wonder why there is no interest in a good song whereas there can be interest in a bad song. It lead me to believe that the public have $h!t taste. Or else they never get to hear the good song because of not being playlisted. What exactly happened to Muse - Undisclosed Desires? Did it get a-listed by Radio1?
June 21, 201015 yr You have to wonder why there is no interest in a good song whereas there can be interest in a bad song. It lead me to believe that the public have $h!t taste. Or else they never get to hear the good song because of not being playlisted. What exactly happened to Muse - Undisclosed Desires? Did it get a-listed by Radio1? I think so, at least b-list. It did better on downloads that "Resistance" I think but for some reason didn't get a physical so charted lower. Seen that happen with a couple of others, the 2nd singles has sold more downloads than the 3rd but charts lower (Oasis with "I'm Outta Time" / "Falling Down", Hard-Fi with "Can't Get Along Without You" / "I Shall Overcome").
June 21, 201015 yr Infact, Getting Up With You, from last year (I think it was bit a group called The Yeah You's, or something). That was a shock. It got good airplay (from what I heard), and I thought it was a really good song.
June 21, 201015 yr Maybe UD wasn't really Muse song to their fans which meant they didn't buy it as they had the album and it didn't have a physical release and b-side Other people might have liked it but not enough to buy it. That said, UD was huge here..Even on radio. Muse is one the biggest and the most popular bands here right now. Muse have had problems selling singles in the UK. I thought Uprising underperformed: it was the first single from new album and very them. It barely reached top 10. Their highest position is no. 4. They might be the new Depeche Mode. Edited June 21, 201015 yr by SKOB
June 21, 201015 yr Well I'd settle for a track that was truly ahead of its time released in 2008 which peaked at #168 in the Official Charts; which has become a bit of a 2010 Ibiza dance anthem and is apparently getting reissued at the beginning of August; so can hopefully go massive second time around, as its was definitely a John The Baptist type track pre Lady GaGa phenomenon.
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