so all music without guitar and drums = garbage? how very closed minded of you.

 

and tbh, were they really every a 'metal' band in the first place, anyone who would have compared them to Metallica and Iron Maiden before would be an idiot.

 

No, they were far better than that :P

No, they were far better than that :P

 

don't be ridiculous.

 

but i meant in style more than anything. LP were never a metal band they just got thrown into the "nu metal" music.

'Wretches And Kings' is WAY better than the single, which I'm still not feeling.

don't be ridiculous.

 

but i meant in style more than anything. LP were never a metal band they just got thrown into the "nu metal" music.

 

Actually I was serious :P never really got it with Metallica, although "Enter Sandman" is very good and I'm sure "One" would grow on me with more listens, but Iron Maiden are one of the singularly most overrated British bands in history. Just ahead of Radiohead and behind The Beatles.

 

Back on topic, not sure about "Wretches and Kings" yet. I'm always apprehensive on tracks where Mike's rapping is a focus cos he's not always strong enough to pull it off. "Papercut" and "Bleed It Out" were exceptions, but I'm not really feeling the chorus either on W&K so far.

Actually I was serious :P never really got it with Metallica, although "Enter Sandman" is very good and I'm sure "One" would grow on me with more listens, but Iron Maiden are one of the singularly most overrated British bands in history. Just ahead of Radiohead and behind The Beatles.

 

Back on topic, not sure about "Wretches and Kings" yet. I'm always apprehensive on tracks where Mike's rapping is a focus cos he's not always strong enough to pull it off. "Papercut" and "Bleed It Out" were exceptions, but I'm not really feeling the chorus either on W&K so far.

 

I'm not even going to bother to tell you how many things are wrong with that.

so all music without guitar and drums = garbage? how very closed minded of you.

 

and tbh, were they really every a 'metal' band in the first place, anyone who would have compared them to Metallica and Iron Maiden before would be an idiot.

 

I didn't mean all music without guitar and drums was no good. I was referring to the fact that Linkin Park, through their whole career, have been ostensibly a rock band, based around those instruments. This is just such a radical shift in direction that they don't even sound like the same band anymore.

 

It would be like if RATM released a new album which was dance and R&B! :lol:

I didn't mean all music without guitar and drums was no good. I was referring to the fact that Linkin Park, through their whole career, have been ostensibly a rock band, based around those instruments. This is just such a radical shift in direction that they don't even sound like the same band anymore.

 

It would be like if RATM released a new album which was dance and R&B! :lol:

 

it still sounds like rock to me, and they have only been based around those instruments, they have always included samples and turntables and rapping in their music, if anything i'd say they were never based around those instruments. it doesnt seem that radical of a change to me at all.

Yeah but 'The Catalyst' doesn't really use samples or turntables. It is, in it's entirety, a dance and electronica track. It's not like Reanimation, which made more use of electronic effects but maintained the basic guitar/bass/drum structure - it's an entirely different beast.

 

'Wretches And Kings' at least sounds more like Linkin Park, albeit still not being very good.

Yeah but 'The Catalyst' doesn't really use samples or turntables. It is, in it's entirety, a dance and electronica track. It's not like Reanimation, which made more use of electronic effects but maintained the basic guitar/bass/drum structure - it's an entirely different beast.

 

'Wretches And Kings' at least sounds more like Linkin Park, albeit still not being very good.

 

I disagree, it's not a dance track as such. It's more industrial-y, just focussing on the electronic side to their sound. "Meteora" to "Minutes to Midnight" was a pretty big jump but it did take four years, that to this has taken three and although it's a jump it's not a particularly shocking one.

Hmmmm.. Catalyst is better than I expected. Could be a grower.

album leaked!

Thanks Nick F1 :D

Not bad at all on first listen ^_^

Radios here started to play the second single "Waiting For the End" it's not typical LP sound again, but it has much more hit potential than "The Catalyst"

Radios here started to play the second single "Waiting For the End" it's not typical LP sound again, but it has much more hit potential than "The Catalyst"

 

Listening now. Tbh if the album flops it's got no hope anyway, you saw what happened to all the singles Gorillaz released off "Plastic Beach" and that was reasonably successful.

This album is GREAT. Very different than MTM, which is good idea. Mike

First listen through of the album and it is just as bad as I feared. I don't understand how you can call this a coherent record in any shape or form - 15 tracks and only 47 minutes long? Far too much filler, and the only consistent concept is 'a thousand suns' being repeated over several songs.

 

The only two songs I enjoyed were Wretches And Kings and Burning In The Skies, and even they were average at best. The rest of the record is literally atrocious, it just sounds like a child experimenting with eJay. There's no hook or melody, effects all over the place - it just sounds like a Mike record tbh. I'd be shocked if Chester has as much say in Linkin Park's current musical direction as Mike does. He's barely audible on this record.

 

Really, really disappointed in this album. I've got nothing against bands experimenting, but only if they know what they're doing. It is blatantly obvious on this album that Linkin Park do not have a f***ing CLUE what they're doing with this new direction. It's all over the place, it's weak and one of the worst attempts at a concept album I've ever heard. Here's a tip for Linkin Park - stick to what your f***ing good at.

 

2/10

 

Finally got round to listening to this yesterday, can't say I thought much of it, probaly their worse album yet, but i'll give more listens to determine that, i hoped for much more, highlights definatly are 'Wretches and Kings', 'The Catalyst' and 'Blackout'.

Weird album but very likable. It's different to the last album, probably also the further 2 albums (not to include the collab albums or whatever).

 

The last track is quite lame though. Very very Jared Leto in a bad way.

 

'Meteora' still stays my fave album but I do like 'Hybrid Theory', 'Minutes To Midnight' and this one.

Edited September 13, 201014 yr by FM11

LOOKS LIKE THIS ALBUM WILL SELL ONLY BECAUSE THE STRONG FAN-BASE THAT LINKIN PARK HAS, SAME AS LIL' WAYNE - REBIRTH ALBUM BUT I PREDICT A LITTLE BETTER FOR THIS