I wish you could debate without calling people names Scott. If someone disagrees with you on anything they're called vile names. That's wrong and I can tell you others here think that too.

WORLD HISTORY. What about the British people who died that day? :rolleyes: About 200 I believe.

 

What about the 500,000 Iraqis murdered by Bush and B-Liar.....?

 

"the death of one is tragedy, the death of millions is just a statistic", eh....? -_-

 

What about the 500,000 Iraqis murdered by Bush and B-Liar.....?

 

"the death of one is tragedy, the death of millions is just a statistic", eh....? -_-

 

 

What about them? Sad but they were unavoidable civilian CASUALTIES OF WAR and not murdered as you say. You always get some civiian deaths in any war. :(

Edited September 11, 201014 yr by Common Sense

I wish you could debate without calling people names Scott. If someone disagrees with you on anything they're called vile names. That's wrong and I can tell you others here think that too.

 

Chris, you are vile, you've proven that to us in the past.... :P

You always get some civiian deaths in any war. :(

 

Well, Al Qaeda would say that THEY have declared war on the US, so, by that reasoning, the bombing of the Twin Towers is justified.... -_-

 

Here was me thinking that we were supposed to be better than the "evil-doers".... And what did Iraq even have to do with the Twin Towers bombing anyway..? Iraq was entirely BLAMELESS in that..... "War on Terror" we were sold, Saddam had nothing to do with Sept 11th, so an attack on his country was totally UNJUSTIFIED..... And, no, I dont give a sh"t about supposed "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (which didn't exist anyway...), if the Israelis are allowed to have fukkin' NUKES, then, as far as I'm concerned, the neighbouring countries, including Iran, are allowed to defend themselves against a possible pre-emptive nuclear strike from a proven aggressive neighbour, just as we were justified to have nukes to protect us from the Soviet Union....

The Commemoration at Ground Zero is about to be shown live by both Sky News and the BBC News Channel if anyone wants to see it. Scott won't obviously.

Edited September 11, 201014 yr by Common Sense

The Commemoration at Ground Zero is about to be shown live by both Sky News and the BBC News Channel if anyone wants to see it. Scott won't obviously.

 

Nope, I wont, out of a general principle, which I've outlined in this thread....

 

If they give equal coverage to a commemoration of the Iraqi dead, then I'll perhaps change my mind for next year.... -_-

 

But of course they wont, because dead "rag-heads", "sand-ni***rs" and "camel jockeys" (just some of the charming names which US troops give to the Arab people, nothing like 'winning hearts and minds' is there...?) aren't as important as dead Westerners are they...? <_<

I agree with Grimly, sorry to go against the trend. Of course 9/11 was an important date and we shouldn't forget it, but it's been 9 years, and I just think we need to move on..

 

And the fact that there is very little doubt in my mind the attacks were at the very LEAST allowed to happen by the Bush administration, doesnt help with my sympathy towards it.

I agree with Grimly, sorry to go against the trend. Of course 9/11 was an important date and we shouldn't forget it, but it's been 9 years, and I just think we need to move on..

 

And the fact that there is very little doubt in my mind the attacks were at the very LEAST allowed to happen by the Bush administration, doesnt help with my sympathy towards it.

 

Spot on... So, it's actually more like Pearl Harbour than most people think..... :lol:

 

And here's another thing.. I live in London, and yet, the fifth anniversay of the July 7th bombings pretty much passed me by.... Seriously, nowhere near as much mention (or fuss) made out of it.... Which begs the question, just why the fukk are we talking more about Sept 11th than we are about the anniversary of a terrorist attack that happened in OUR OWN COUNTRY..... Something a wee bit messed up there I reckon.....

 

Christ, we'd might as well just say we're the 51st State of America...... -_-

 

I think it is important we remember the date 9/11. A day thousands of people died at the hands of the US Government for them to attempt to justify an invasion into Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

Such a shame that due to the cover ups of the US Government and the controlling of Western media that so many people don't realise it wasn't terrorists. The American people need to pressure the Government for the obvious truths.

WORLD HISTORY. What about the British people who died that day? :rolleyes: About 200 I believe.

67. It wasn't that many more than 7/7, which gets a passing memorial these days - quite rightly that it ought to be remembered, but we ought not to fall into the same pomp every year that America does over 9/11.

I think it is important we remember the date 9/11. A day thousands of people died at the hands of the US Government for them to attempt to justify an invasion into Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

Such a shame that due to the cover ups of the US Government and the controlling of Western media that so many people don't realise it wasn't terrorists. The American people need to pressure the Government for the obvious truths.

Oh lord, please don't tell me you're one of them :( I could believe that they knew about it beforehand. That they pulled it off themselves? I severely doubt it.

What about them? Sad but they were unavoidable civilian CASUALTIES OF WAR and not murdered as you say. You always get some civiian deaths in any war. :(

Unavoidable? Was there any need for Shock and Awe to happen given it was almost solely concentrated on terrifying civilians into submission to their cause - oh, the very definition of terrorism.

 

You're an apologist of the worst kind.

Oh lord, please don't tell me you're one of them :( I could believe that they knew about it beforehand. That they pulled it off themselves? I severely doubt it.

 

Have you seen Loose Change?

Have you seen Loose Change?

Link?

Link?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE

Oh lord, please don't tell me you're one of them :( I could believe that they knew about it beforehand. That they pulled it off themselves? I severely doubt it.

 

There's actually evidence which more than suggests the FBI were complicit in the first bombing of the Twin Towers in the early 90s... So, would you REALLY put it past certain rogue elements in Government and law-enforcement to, at the very least, look the other way....? I'm not all that convinced that jet fuel and whatever small explosive devices the hijackers had could make the towers collapse, and neither were a lot of structural engineers....

 

Hitler burned the Reichstag, the American Govt knew the Japanese were going to bomb Pearl Harbour, they made up the Gulf of Tonkin incident to justify Vietnam, wouldn't be at all surprised if these rogue elements deliberately allowed, or even played an active role in Sept 11th.... The terrorists wouldn't have been able to ensure that all the air-force jets which would've been patrolling around the area were all hundreds of miles away on "exercises"... I saw a documentary, you had a potential of dozens of possible hijacking incidents occurring on Sept 11th, there was massive confusion as to what was a real incident and what was an exercise... Makes you think it was, oh, I dunno, engineered to be that confusing so the air force couldn't respond in time and shoot down the jets before they could hit their targets....

In fairness, I think it's getting more media coverage here than in recent years because of the recent events that have put American-Islamic relations under the microscope (the Florida pastor, the "Ground Zero mosque")... I remember last year the anniversary got barely any media coverage here.

I can believe that they took full advantage of the plan once they heard about it - Republicans are no strangers to shock doctrine after all (have you read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine by the way? It's got a full chapter on 9/11 and its immediate economic effects), and it makes sense to me that they'd have looked the other way...

jesus christ Chris is it any wonder Blair cancelled the book signings, I doubt it was due to protesters it was more likely because he has trouble sitting down for 2 hrs with your head shoved up his arse :rolleyes:

 

Nothing I can add to this subject that Scott hasn't already said tbh, one of the FEW areas I am in total agreement