October 20, 201014 yr Um, Cheryl can't "ban" anyone from the show. Even Simon Cowell does not have total control over the programme, there are at least 4 exec producers for the various companies involved (ITV, Syco, TBT). It's not even Simon who decides who the judges are - that's a guy called Richard Holloway. He's the person with most of the power really. Simon Cowell is simply the "public face" of the boss, behind the scenes it's far more complicated than what Simon says, goes. Yes she can. You make it sound as if non of the judges has no power. If she doesn't like Nadine xfactor bosses may not schedule her because they're aware of it. And she can simply tell them not to bring Nadine and they'll do that because she's not just a judge, she's a big star.
October 20, 201014 yr You lot are mad if you think cheryl has control in the x factor, please. :thinking: I've come to the conclusion i'm disapointed with this for her solo material and should of been so much better.
October 20, 201014 yr Meh. I'm just saying that's what I read. I'm not saying it's true, I'm not saying it's false, it's just what I read. Though I do wish she was going on. It'd be great for her :(
October 20, 201014 yr Do you honestly think it'd reflect well on Cheryl to 'ban' her fellow bandmate from performing? I'm sure Cheryl would above all want to support her bandmate... honestly. Plus like people say, she doesn't have a say in who performs and who doesn't.
October 20, 201014 yr Do you honestly think it'd reflect well on Cheryl to 'ban' her fellow bandmate from performing? I'm sure Cheryl would above all want to support her bandmate... honestly. Plus like people say, she doesn't have a say in who performs and who doesn't. Mind u mate, they're not speaking so why Cheryl should support Nadine :ph34r:
October 20, 201014 yr Yes she can. You make it sound as if non of the judges has no power. If she doesn't like Nadine xfactor bosses may not schedule her because they're aware of it. And she can simply tell them not to bring Nadine and they'll do that because she's not just a judge, she's a big star. Of course they can bring her on, what is Cheryl going to do, exactly? :mellow:
October 20, 201014 yr People who think Cheryl can pick up the acts she wants are clearly deluded. If the judges had such power, why Dannii couldn't even secure a performance for herself when she released her single during the X Factor ? Ha ! The show brings in millions and millions of pounds in advertising deals, so the only thing that matters is what artists will attract the more viewers. There's no way Cheryl - as popular as she is - could decide over them on such important issues. And as Aly said, it would literraly kill her career anyway if it was ever known she banned Nadine from performing. And let's be honest, Cheryl was actually the only reason why Nadine would have performed on the show. Without her link to Cheryl, the producers would never be interested in getting Nadine on stage, especially now that it's not looking great for her. Oh well, next I bet people will accuse Cheryl of touring every single radio of the country to convince them not to play Nadine. :lol:
October 20, 201014 yr Yes she can. You make it sound as if non of the judges has no power. If she doesn't like Nadine xfactor bosses may not schedule her because they're aware of it. And she can simply tell them not to bring Nadine and they'll do that because she's not just a judge, she's a big star. ehot is absolutely right. Cheryl "could" tell ITV not to have her on and they wouldn't, but I don't think she's stupid enough to do that, but the point is, she "could". The bosses at ITV are aware that having Nadine on the show would cause tension, and they wouldn't want to upset Cheryl, especially as she isn't speaking to Nadine.
October 20, 201014 yr ehot is absolutely right. Cheryl "could" tell ITV not to have her on and they wouldn't, but I don't think she's stupid enough to do that, but the point is, she "could". The bosses at ITV are aware that having Nadine on the show would cause tension, and they wouldn't want to upset Cheryl, especially as she isn't speaking to Nadine. And you read too much Daily Mail, The Sun... The promotion of Nadine's single is really bad, could you make us a favour and look at the airplay top 100? where is Insatiable? out of the top 100, the same with the video, she's out of the top 40. Is Cheryl telling the radios around the UK to not play Insatiable? Reality check boy. How can someone like her be on a show like the X Factor just because she's Cheryl's bandmate? There is no buzz around her, and this is not Cheryl's fault, why Nadine isn't promoting like crazy? Edited October 20, 201014 yr by Carlos V
October 20, 201014 yr Cheryl "could" tell ITV not to have her on and they wouldn't, but I don't think she's stupid enough to do that, but the point is, she "could". She has NO such power AT ALL, sorry. If the producers think Nadine can attract more viewers than one other artist, they'll get her on the show, because the more viewers they get, the more money ITV1 get from the ad breaks. SIMPLE. The whole Ghamu-gate indicated that the producers aren't all that protective of Cheryl, and the only thing that matters to them, is to get as much hype as possible to the show, positive or negative. TV is all about advertising deals nowadays. Cheryl is not above those rules.
October 20, 201014 yr tbh I really cant see that Cheryl gets a say in the performances, she's not exactly in charge :unsure: its all Simon really- 'friends' of the show, his acts and songs he believes could be big- he's obviously going to give Cheryl a slot, but like britster said, having Nadine on the show would be quite risky as Cheryl and Nadine arent speaking- so Simon (NOT Cheryl) is probably not going to ask her Edited October 20, 201014 yr by chart wizard
October 20, 201014 yr The promotion of Nadine's single is really bad, could you make us a favour and look at the airplay top 100? where is Insatiable? out of the top 100, the same with the video, she's out of the top 40. Is Cheryl telling the radios around the UK to not play Insatiable? Reality check boy. I never said any such thing. Insatiable is a poor choice for a single, even as an album filler it's pretty poor. But with regards to the X-Factor, Cheryl's feelings do hold weight with ITV, whether you agree or not.
October 20, 201014 yr I honestly think the only reason Nadine and Cheryl "aren't speaking" is because f work commitments on both sides, and they're probably not as close as some other band members, I don't believe there's any 'tension' or anything...
October 21, 201014 yr I never said any such thing. Insatiable is a poor choice for a single, even as an album filler it's pretty poor. But with regards to the X-Factor, Cheryl's feelings do hold weight with ITV, whether you agree or not. From the last Nadine interview (GQ): Nadine Coyle, one fifth of Girls Aloud, owner of California's finest Irish pub and the fiancé of former American football starJason Bell, launches her much-talked about solo album Insatiable this autumn. Self-deprecating and stunning in equal measure, there were only two topics that Nadine wasn't keen to touch upon: the future of the group that made her name (the huge bouquet of flowers from her bandmates signal things are fine) and her (non-existent) rivalry with Cheryl Cole. So we asked her for advice on dating, her thoughts on Gaga's meat dress and why she thinks Barack Obama is overrated. But you can still believe what the sensationalist press writes... they aren't best friends, they are workmates but they don't hate each other. The relationship between Nadine and Cheryl is the same relationship between Nadine and the other 3 girls, workmates. Edited October 21, 201014 yr by Carlos V
October 21, 201014 yr Tweedy is a greedy cow! She can't sing live and is overrated. End of! Yawn ... -_-
October 21, 201014 yr Do you honestly think it'd reflect well on Cheryl to 'ban' her fellow bandmate from performing? I'm sure Cheryl would above all want to support her bandmate... honestly. Plus like people say, she doesn't have a say in who performs and who doesn't. I honestly think the only reason Nadine and Cheryl "aren't speaking" is because f work commitments on both sides, and they're probably not as close as some other band members, I don't believe there's any 'tension' or anything... For once I completely agree with you. Cheryl has NO power on the X Factor. People who believe she does obviously don't realise just how many people there are behind-the-scenes making the decisions. Cheryl does what she's told on the show like any employee - as much as it may seem on the show like the judges are in control. Also, I'm pretty sure she would be campaigning FOR Nadine's appearance on the show - not against it. Though tbh I never thought Nadine would even be considered because she's nowhere near high-profile enough.
October 21, 201014 yr To be honest, I'm a bit surprised how some people are 100% sure that Cheryl either has a lot of a say for it or she isn't in charge at all. We don't and can't know anything what is happening beyond the curtains of the show. I think the truth is more in the middle. I think Cheryl doesn't have a say, but it's actually Cowell/bosses might decide that it will harm Cheryl and then the rating of the X-Factor. All we know that Nadine has always been the voice of Girls Aloud. And almost all of us are pretty sure that Nadine will rock it as soon as she performs. The press will _obviously_ compare her performance to Cheryl's. And it will be quite bad for Cheryl as she will lose some relevance. The X-Factor bosses don't want Cheryl to lose any relevance at all, because long-term she brings them additional ratings. And that's why they might ban Nadine from the show only just because. I don't say that it is all the truth - it's just my vision how Cheryl on the show could influence this decision. Edited October 21, 201014 yr by Arrs
October 21, 201014 yr To be honest, I'm a bit surprised how some people are 100% sure that Cheryl either has a lot of a say for it or she isn't in charge at all. We don't and can't know anything what is happening beyond the curtains of the show. I think the truth is more in the middle. I think Cheryl doesn't have a say, but it's actually Cowell/bosses might decide that it will harm Cheryl and then the rating of the X-Factor. All we know that Nadine has always been the voice of Girls Aloud. And almost all of us are pretty sure that Nadine will rock it as soon as she performs. The press will _obviously_ compare her performance to Cheryl's. And it will be quite bad for Cheryl as she will lose some relevance. The X-Factor bosses don't want Cheryl to lose any relevance at all, because long-term she brings them additional ratings. And that's why they might ban Nadine from the show only just because. I don't say that it is all the truth - it's just my vision how Cheryl on the show could influence this decision. That's your opinion, but it sounds like total crap to me and totally clutching at straws. I doubt this sort of stuff even goes through these people's heads.
October 21, 201014 yr I don't say that I speak the truths obviously, as this theory is rather complicated. :lol: But I can see Cheryl influencing the show only this way. I really don't think she can go to the producers, say: I don't want Nadine to perform - and that's it. But her existence on the show could and actually should influence the show. The more Cheryl is popular - the higher are ratings. And obviously the producers will try to rise or at least sustain her ratings to keep more show watchers. In Nadine's and her non-performing on the XF case it's most likely that: - producers don't think she is big enough for the show; - she isn't on Syco / Sony label; - simply they think the song isn't strong enough.
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