Yeah but would the typical Sun reader know that? They would see the headline 'senior labour figures', start ranting about paedos without bothering to read the article and never vote for labour again

 

Unfortunately a Sun reader type has the same vote as an intelligent person

 

 

Hey I read The Sun and am not thick! :)

Yeah but would the typical Sun reader know that? They would see the headline 'senior labour figures', start ranting about paedos without bothering to read the article and never vote for labour again

 

Unfortunately a Sun reader type has the same vote as an intelligent person

Do you really think the average Sun reader's really going to be thinking about the 70s views of PATRICIA HEWITT come a general election in fifteen months' time?

Hey I read The Sun and am not thick! :)

 

You aren't typical then lol

Do you really think the average Sun reader's really going to be thinking about the 70s views of PATRICIA HEWITT come a general election in fifteen months' time?

 

True but this is just the opening shots in what is going to be the most vicious and dirty election campaign the western world and indeed much of the rest of the world has ever seen, labour had better hope there are no more skeletons in the cupboard, i bet though there are some very worried shadow cabinet ministers right now, whole legions of right wing media private detectives will be going through every little thing labour figures have said or done in their lives, hoping to dig up some dirt

 

Whether i approve of that or not, this is just the beginning, the right wing media wont let tories lose next election

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Not a lot they can do about that.

 

And not for the first time your hyperbole has a massive blind spot called Obama.

Not a lot they can do about that.

 

And not for the first time your hyperbole has a massive blind spot called Obama.

 

Stakes are higher this time, the right wing tabloids know that if labour get in they will sign up to Leveson and more curbs on press freedom so the media will be like a pack of pitbulls in their quest to ensure Ed doesn't get in

Stakes are higher this time, the right wing tabloids know that if labour get in they will sign up to Leveson and more curbs on press freedom so the media will be like a pack of pitbulls in their quest to ensure Ed doesn't get in

Again, higher stakes than Obama?

Again, higher stakes than Obama?

 

It got very dirty towards Obama but Obama had advantages Ed doesn't, firstly he is a brilliant communicator, maybe the best in my lifetime so could easily deflect the attacks, Ed is an extremely poor communicator, also Obama is black so could easily spin the attacks on him as being the work of racists whereas Ed doesn't have that advantage

 

 

Stakes are higher this time, the right wing tabloids know that if labour get in they will sign up to Leveson and more curbs on press freedom so the media will be like a pack of pitbulls in their quest to ensure Ed doesn't get in

The royal charter resulting from Leveson's already gone through. I'm not sure what difference you think a Labour victory will have in that regard.

The royal charter resulting from Leveson's already gone through. I'm not sure what difference you think a Labour victory will have in that regard.

 

True but if labour get a majority of more than single figures they can do pretty much what they want, bring in extra legislation to curb the press, French style privacy laws (very likely i would say after attacks on Ed's father), order more enquiries into Murdoch's empire etc, the press are running scared of labour and resorting to whatever it takes to attack them

 

I don't think they are doing it out of any great affection for David Cameron

There aren't any privacy laws that would cover what the Mail published about Ralph Miliband, short of making it illegal to publish stories on the relatives of people in the public eye, which would never get through Parliament, even with a Labour majority. Even that law probably wouldn't cover the story, given Ralph was fairly famous in his field.

It got very dirty towards Obama but Obama had advantages Ed doesn't, firstly he is a brilliant communicator, maybe the best in my lifetime so could easily deflect the attacks, Ed is an extremely poor communicator, also Obama is black so could easily spin the attacks on him as being the work of racists whereas Ed doesn't have that advantage

How is that at all relevant?

How is that at all relevant?

 

Because the attacks on Obama were by and large racially motivated, questioning whether he was a muslim, questioning his American heritage, the attacks on Ed are a totally different motive

Were you even paying attention to the last US election Craig? The vast majority of the attacks on Obama had nothing to do with his heritage.

He'd have also been utterly laughed out of the room if he'd just dismissed attacks on him as being racist...

Were you even paying attention to the last US election Craig? The vast majority of the attacks on Obama had nothing to do with his heritage.

 

Not a lot, i saw the debates and the VP debates but that was about it really.

Regardless of the nature of the attacks, it was still probably a more "vicious and dirty" campaign than will be run against Ed. Say what you like about the Mail but they don't have a 24 hour news channel saying the NHS is evil.

That is policies though, policies are fair game, there will be months of talk in the media before election of how 'labour bankrupted britain' while the left will hit back with 'evil tory cuts show tories are still the nasty party' etc

 

 

That is policies though, policies are fair game, there will be months of talk in the media before election of how 'labour bankrupted britain' while the left will hit back with 'evil tory cuts show tories are still the nasty party' etc

I don't think you quite grasp the scale of American elections.

This p**** thing could be very damaging for labour, the sun is on the case now and with some damaging revelations about Hewitt and Dromey, this could affect their poll ratings unless Ed takes decisive action to condemn them and sack them both from the labour party

 

'Labour chiefs support sex with 10 year olds'

 

Sun readers tend to be less bright than say Telegraph or Independent readers so could well start seeing labour as 'the p**** party' or 'the paedos friend' likewise people walking past a copy of the Sun seeing 'labour chiefs' would assume Ed was involved

 

Wouldn't surprise me if by this time next week Labour poll lead has all but gone

 

And tonight gives Labour their highest rating of the year (41%).

 

You are fast approaching Dan Hodges levels on political predictions :P