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no just make their own type of music which may not be your thing but which millions of other love??

 

It's hardly "their" music when they're clearly just ripping off U2, Lennon/McCartney and Simple Minds though mate..... :P

haha....better tell a whole load of artists to retire or just give up as they take their influences from someone else!!!

 

same with Rage against the machine.... :)

haha....better tell a whole load of artists to retire or just give up as they take their influences from someone else!!!

 

same with Rage against the machine.... :)

 

lol, so who's style did Rage Against The Machine steal, enlighten me, many have taken influence in Rage, but Rage's influences are so varied from amny different genres that their wasnt a band before them similar. first band you could call Hip Hop and Rock.

my point is that all bands use various influences from all over the place

my point is that all bands use various influences from all over the place

 

yes but Coldplay clearly don't.

I see theres a lot of Coldplay hate here then- each to their own, I wont try and defend them -_-

 

for us Coldplay fans though, the full song and video :w00t:

 

 

love it :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

 

 

 

 

It's hardly "their" music when they're clearly just ripping off U2, Lennon/McCartney and Simple Minds though mate..... :P

 

you just stated they do though

 

haha....better tell a whole load of artists to retire or just give up as they take their influences from someone else!!!

 

There's a subtle difference between being influenced and basically just "ripping off"... Muse are influenced by Queen and Glam Rock, but then they do something completely insane with it to put their own individual stamp on it, Coldplay, on the other hand, have nothing like that level of creativity or sheer balls......

 

THAT is the difference, and it's a pretty damn significant one IMO....

I see theres a lot of Coldplay hate here then- each to their own, I wont try and defend them -_-

 

for us Coldplay fans though, the full song and video :w00t:

 

 

love it :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

Nope, Corey Talyor gets my vote..... :P

There's a subtle difference between being influenced and basically just "ripping off"... Muse are influenced by Queen and Glam Rock, but then they do something completely insane with it to put their own individual stamp on it, Coldplay, on the other hand, have nothing like that level of creativity or sheer balls......

THAT is the difference, and it's a pretty damn significant one IMO....

 

When a band is influenced by three or more band/previous artists, that is not ripping off. It's called "What normally happens in music".

 

'Viva la Vida'. How can you call that ripping of of U2/Lennon/McCartney/Simple Minds? If you can manage that then I challenge you to try and call it generic, unoriginal, uninspired or contrived. I don't see how using a full string orchestra, a church bell, and a timpani to make their music doesn't make them creative. None of those aforementioned bands ever discussed a historical concept like the French Revolution in their lyrics. The only Coldplay song I've heard that echoes the real sound of U2 is 'Lovers In Japan', which is just about the best Coldplay song there is in my opinion, so whether or not they seem heavily influenced by U2 on it doesn't bother me; it's still brilliant.

 

I'm no fan of Coldplay, but credit where credit is due and all that. U2 have been better than Coldplay, but recent album efforts from both bands suggest U2 are losing their edge (no pun intended), and Coldplay are progressing and improving exponentially.

 

'Christmas Lights' however, is a bit on the naff side.

When a band is influenced by three or more band/previous artists, that is not ripping off. It's called "What normally happens in music".

 

'Viva la Vida'. How can you call that ripping of of U2/Lennon/McCartney/Simple Minds? If you can manage that then I challenge you to try and call it generic, unoriginal, uninspired or contrived. I don't see how using a full string orchestra, a church bell, and a timpani to make their music doesn't make them creative. None of those aforementioned bands ever discussed a historical concept like the French Revolution in their lyrics. The only Coldplay song I've heard that echoes the real sound of U2 is 'Lovers In Japan', which is just about the best Coldplay song there is in my opinion, so whether or not they seem heavily influenced by U2 on it doesn't bother me; it's still brilliant.

 

I'm no fan of Coldplay, but credit where credit is due and all that. U2 have been better than Coldplay, but recent album efforts from both bands suggest U2 are losing their edge (no pun intended), and Coldplay are progressing and improving exponentially.

 

'Christmas Lights' however, is a bit on the naff side.

 

Oh GOD, "Viva La Vida", yah, right whatever... Like there aren't at least two or three songs on that one that don't sound like they're lifted out the Lennon/McCartney songbook... The ONLY thing that Viva La Vida has going for it is Eno's admittedly excellent production... Shame he didn't just write the whole album for them, would've likely been a lot more musically adventurous....

 

I give them credit for NOTHING.. I've heard it all before... They bore me, which is the most unforgiveable thing a band can do as far as I'm concerned... I've got less of a problem with Manufactured Pop tbh, at least that has no pretentions above its station, just does what is says on the tin... Chris Martin actually thinks his dreary Dad Rock is actually of any fukkin' importance to the world... Tosser.... At least Bono was there first with all the pretentious, portentious, self-indulgent drivel, and as much as I might dislike him, he can actually carry it off better than Martin can, he's certainly more entertaining, Martin is so drearily fukkin' "WORTHY"....

I know you don't like Coldplay- but you cant deny they are talented musicians and songwriters who have done some true classics

GRIMLY, may I ask; what are your favorite bands?

I'm no fan of Coldplay, but credit where credit is due and all that. U2 have been better than Coldplay, but recent album efforts from both bands suggest U2 are losing their edge (no pun intended), and Coldplay are progressing and improving exponentially.

 

The main problem with comparing Coldplay and U2 is that U2 have distinct changes in sound each decade - the 80's they had their own sound that stood out a mile from the music that was popular at the time - then in the 90's they made a radical change in not only the direction of music, but also their image. They totally reinvented themselves. Yes since 2000 they have stuck to quite a similar sound overall with ATYCLB, Bomb and NLOTH but I am confident due to the underperformance of NLOTH (by their standards obviously - it still sold 4-5M WW) they will once again freshen things up with a new sound. The problem with Coldplay is that they have never attempted to make a serious change in direction - they try with a track here and there but the overall sound remains very much the same throughout IMO. They really could do with trying to make their 'Achtung Baby' so to speak - and not be so concerned about alienating their fanbase. Some serious risks that will surprise their biggest critics would be welcome if you ask me.

 

And although I agree with Grimly regarding the extent of which Coldplay use the influences of many bands such as U2 at least Martin admits it. He said in Q a while ago "The best advice U2 have us was, Sound a bit like us for a bit. We tried it around X&Y. It worked out OK but we had to move off it pretty fast" - I applaud him for admitting this but the problem with this statement is that he says after X&Y they wanted to move away from this, yet what do they do? Hire U2's main producer Brian Eno for Viva La Vida. :lol:

I hoped that this would be good...But dear god this is horribly boring.

 

Doesn't sound the same band who have released classics such as Trouble, Yellow, Clocks, The Scientist, Fix You, Speed of Sound, Violet Hill, Viva la Vida.

Edited December 3, 201014 yr by SKOB

I think their problem is that too often end up sounding like The Script with piano and strings. Nice melody is not enough when the singer is not very good. In fact, it highlights everything they lack. U2 have the same problem..When the song is not truly A class, it's actually very forgettable.

 

(Martin is not a good singer, he's a good performer though)

Edited December 3, 201014 yr by SKOB

The main problem with comparing Coldplay and U2 is that U2 have distinct changes in sound each decade - the 80's they had their own sound that stood out a mile from the music that was popular at the time - then in the 90's they made a radical change in not only the direction of music, but also their image. They totally reinvented themselves. Yes since 2000 they have stuck to quite a similar sound overall with ATYCLB, Bomb and NLOTH but I am confident due to the underperformance of NLOTH (by their standards obviously - it still sold 4-5M WW) they will once again freshen things up with a new sound. The problem with Coldplay is that they have never attempted to make a serious change in direction - they try with a track here and there but the overall sound remains very much the same throughout IMO. They really could do with trying to make their 'Achtung Baby' so to speak - and not be so concerned about alienating their fanbase. Some serious risks that will surprise their biggest critics would be welcome if you ask me.

 

And although I agree with Grimly regarding the extent of which Coldplay use the influences of many bands such as U2 at least Martin admits it. He said in Q a while ago "The best advice U2 have us was, Sound a bit like us for a bit. We tried it around X&Y. It worked out OK but we had to move off it pretty fast" - I applaud him for admitting this but the problem with this statement is that he says after X&Y they wanted to move away from this, yet what do they do? Hire U2's main producer Brian Eno for Viva La Vida. :lol:

Brian Eno has produced for a lot more bands than just U2. He has also worked with innovative bands such as Talking Heads and Devo as well as more mainstreasm bands like James.

 

As for Coldplay, they aren't the most innovative band ever but you can't deny that they are at least competent and serious musicians. I'd rather a band be open about their influences than try to deny them. After all, listen to early Suede and the names Bowie and The Smiths immediately spring to mind. Brett Anderson has never tried to deny this and Chris Martin has been equally open about his influences.

Well I won't comment on my opinion of the song, however...

 

It must be said that this is fast turning into a massive global hit. It's on every single iTunes top ten in the world (except Australia, strangely) right now... even Japan, where English-language tracks are rare...

i wonder if thats on name alone?it cant have gotten much airplay yet.could well be in the top 40 radio chart this week though