March 24, 201114 yr They need time to work These 21 enterprise zones if they are half as successful as the revitalisation of London's Docklands will transform business in this country, the reforms of corporation tax will bring businesses to this country (already today WPP the advertising giant has said they are returning to Britain due to the corporation tax cuts), enterprise zones become successful and businesses come to this country unemployment will fall rapidly. These measures were only announced yesterday so everyone should wait and see what the government does by the time of the next election before writing them off. I bloody hope that we have another election long before the next scheduled one before the tories can f*** our economy up even more and then you can stay in Australia and we can all live out our lives in peace. Once again The Tories are supporting big business at the expense of the rest of the population. Just like 15 years ago. The cuts are too deep too fast. It's laughable that Osborne had to admit in his "Budget for Growth" that growth was not as good as expected and it seems that the general consensus is that this budget isn't going to do much for growth anyway. And as for the laughable suggestion that the 50p tax rate goes...
March 24, 201114 yr I bloody hope that we have another election long before the next scheduled one before the tories can f*** our economy up even more and then you can stay in Australia and we can all live out our lives in peace. Once again The Tories are supporting big business at the expense of the rest of the population. Just like 15 years ago. The cuts are too deep too fast. It's laughable that Osborne had to admit in his "Budget for Growth" that growth was not as good as expected and it seems that the general consensus is that this budget isn't going to do much for growth anyway. And as for the laughable suggestion that the 50p tax rate goes... They are supporting small businesses aswell, exempting small firms from huge swathes of regulation, the creation of enterprise zones and other measures that will help small businesses. Big business will undoubtedly benefit too particularly through cuts in corporation tax but business both big and small is what creates jobs so while you may sneer at businesses it is them that are going to create jobs not the public sector. The only way to get people off the dole is by setting business free
March 24, 201114 yr They are supporting small businesses aswell, exempting small firms from huge swathes of regulation, the creation of enterprise zones and other measures that will help small businesses. Big business will undoubtedly benefit too particularly through cuts in corporation tax but business both big and small is what creates jobs so while you may sneer at businesses it is them that are going to create jobs not the public sector. The only way to get people off the dole is by setting business free How about not slashing the public sector but at leas attempting to keep most of the jobs there intact? That'd be a far more direct solution, surely?
March 24, 201114 yr How about not slashing the public sector but at leas attempting to keep most of the jobs there intact? That'd be a far more direct solution, surely? The absolute bulk of jobs lost will be through natural wastage like not replacing staff when they retire/switch jobs/die or whatever and recruitment freezes.
March 24, 201114 yr They are supporting small businesses aswell, exempting small firms from huge swathes of regulation, the creation of enterprise zones and other measures that will help small businesses. Big business will undoubtedly benefit too particularly through cuts in corporation tax but business both big and small is what creates jobs so while you may sneer at businesses it is them that are going to create jobs not the public sector. The only way to get people off the dole is by setting business free No it f***ing well isn't. At the moment we have a climate where there are huge cuts in all areas of the public sector including my own area, education. There should be a balance between public and private sector and not the slash and burn approach employed by Cameron and Osborne. Setting business free is basically what happened during the 80s and the legacy from that decade has basically defined the kind of problems we currently have.
March 24, 201114 yr The absolute bulk of jobs lost will be through natural wastage like not replacing staff when they retire/switch jobs/die or whatever and recruitment freezes. That's absolute bollocks as well. Recruitment in education has already as good as frozen because no-one is moving jobs for fear of what will happen. Teachers will no longer retire earlier either and continue teaching longer. And active redundancies are happening in schools now.
March 24, 201114 yr No it f***ing well isn't. At the moment we have a climate where there are huge cuts in all areas of the public sector including my own area, education. There should be a balance between public and private sector and not the slash and burn approach employed by Cameron and Osborne. Setting business free is basically what happened during the 80s and the legacy from that decade has basically defined the kind of problems we currently have. The important thing is to get people off the dole queue and paying tax and doing their bit for society and that won't come from the public sector it is already bloated with far too many tiers of management it will come from the private sector and infrastructure projects. Docklands was transformed thanks to becoming an enterprise zone, it went from a load of disused banana warehouses into a thriving metropolis and the business hub of this country so imagine 21 equivalents of Docklands out there and think how many jobs that will bring to this country, the public sector job losses will long since be forgotten as they find jobs in the private sector, enterprise zones are going to transform Britain as a trading nation, rejuvenate run down areas of this country and get people into work.
March 24, 201114 yr They are supporting small businesses aswell, exempting small firms from huge swathes of regulation, the creation of enterprise zones and other measures that will help small businesses. Big business will undoubtedly benefit too particularly through cuts in corporation tax but business both big and small is what creates jobs so while you may sneer at businesses it is them that are going to create jobs not the public sector. The only way to get people off the dole is by setting business free You mean regulations that would have meant that employees would have had the right to ask for time off for training? Training that could help them to do their job better.
March 24, 201114 yr Docklands was transformed thanks to becoming an enterprise zone, it went from a load of disused banana warehouses into a thriving metropolis and the business hub of this country so imagine 21 equivalents of Docklands out there and think how many jobs that will bring to this country, the public sector job losses will long since be forgotten as they find jobs in the private sector, enterprise zones are going to transform Britain as a trading nation, rejuvenate run down areas of this country and get people into work. OK, so Docklands was the one success out of the, what, 40 enterprise zones that were set up by Thatcher? That's not a very good success rate.
March 24, 201114 yr You mean regulations that would have meant that employees would have had the right to ask for time off for training? Training that could help them to do their job better. Did they actually do that?! I didn't hear about it... I was away yesterday so only heard the major points of it... I assumed there would've been a lot of talk about that if it had happened!
March 24, 201114 yr You mean regulations that would have meant that employees would have had the right to ask for time off for training? Training that could help them to do their job better. It is inconvenient for small businesses to have people taking too much time off, a medium or large business can withstand absenteeism whereas a small business can't so it is right for small businesses to be exempt from a lot of business regulation, can LG or Microsoft afford to do without key employees while they are 'training' ? they can but can a business that employs 2 or 3 people ? no
March 24, 201114 yr The important thing is to get people off the dole queue and paying tax and doing their bit for society and that won't come from the public sector it is already bloated with far too many tiers of management it will come from the private sector and infrastructure projects. Docklands was transformed thanks to becoming an enterprise zone, it went from a load of disused banana warehouses into a thriving metropolis and the business hub of this country so imagine 21 equivalents of Docklands out there and think how many jobs that will bring to this country, the public sector job losses will long since be forgotten as they find jobs in the private sector, enterprise zones are going to transform Britain as a trading nation, rejuvenate run down areas of this country and get people into work. This is not a new idea. Thatcher tried this in the 80s and all they succeeded in doing was shuffling jobs around the country. The Coalition is already creatively bankrupt.
March 24, 201114 yr This is not a new idea. Thatcher tried this in the 80s and all they succeeded in doing was shuffling jobs around the country. The Coalition is already creatively bankrupt. If they mess up then the electorate will be free to vote them out at the next election
March 24, 201114 yr If they mess up then the electorate will be free to vote them out at the next election The sooner the better.
March 25, 201114 yr It is inconvenient for small businesses to have people taking too much time off, a medium or large business can withstand absenteeism whereas a small business can't so it is right for small businesses to be exempt from a lot of business regulation, can LG or Microsoft afford to do without key employees while they are 'training' ? they can but can a business that employs 2 or 3 people ? no But we're not talking about companies that only employ a few people. We're talking about companies that employ as many as 350 people.
March 25, 201114 yr But we're not talking about companies that only employ a few people. We're talking about companies that employ as many as 350 people. My understanding was that it is up to 10 employees but I stand corrected.
March 25, 201114 yr My understanding was that it is up to 10 employees but I stand corrected. If it only referred to companies up to ten employees it would make sense. Clearly it is impractical to expect them to comply with all the regulations which cover larger firms.
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