October 20, 201113 yr That's one out of seven singles by Adele, one out of nine singles by Florence + The Machine and one out of five singles by Ellie Goulding... last time I checked proportions like that don't equate to singing 'covers and only covers'.... Who has sang covers and only covers? :huh: Where is this coming from? NONE of these artists Joe, Adele, Florence, Ellie, Michael, Leona, Alex, Shayne, etc They ALL sang covers and done covers and released covers. So what are you saying here?
October 20, 201113 yr They still released covers, whether singles or albums. That was the point. It really shows a lot about their talent when they do it. More power to them. Also, Joe's Classic album is not all covers. I'd like to hear your reasoning behind the point in bold. You think they released covers because their own songs are crap?
October 20, 201113 yr I'd like to hear your reasoning behind the point in bold. You think they released covers because their own songs are crap? Never said that. If you think their own songs are crap, that is your opinion. An artist's ability to sing a cover song and sell it shows that they have brought something new to the table. Their talented voice has transformed the song. It is different. It is an original. The talent is real and unique. They really have something there. Edited October 20, 201113 yr by jonmove
October 20, 201113 yr Well forgive me for putting words in your mouth! I assumed you meant that they have so little talent they have to release covers to sell.
October 20, 201113 yr Who has sang covers and only covers? :huh: Where is this coming from? NONE of these artists Joe, Adele, Florence, Ellie, Michael, Leona, Alex, Shayne, etc They ALL sang covers and done covers and released covers. So what are you saying here? Erm, look at the post you quoted in the post that I quoted.... it says 'covers and only covers' very clearly so you were saying Adele, Florence and Ellie sang covers and only covers.
October 20, 201113 yr Well forgive me for putting words in your mouth! I assumed you meant that they have so little talent they have to release covers to sell. Why would they have less talent? :huh: It shows more talent if they actually can sell a cover song don't you think. It is about the artist's talent that is selling the song; not the cover. Why not buy the original? It is easily available and been available for a long time. There would be no reason to buy a cover song, if the artist didn't have the talent.
October 20, 201113 yr Why would they have less talent? :huh: Well personally I find making your own songs good takes more talent than doing a decent cover of someone else's song.
October 20, 201113 yr Erm, look at the post you quoted in the post that I quoted.... it says 'covers and only covers' very clearly so you were saying Adele, Florence and Ellie sang covers and only covers. If you want to be technical, look at the post before that (the original post that this is all replying to). Joe didn't sing "covers and covers only", so where does that leave us when the original post doesn't even make sense. The point was these artists (Adele, Florence, Michael, Katherine) have done covers, released covers, produced covers, and sold covers. And shows more power to them as an artist if they can do it.
October 20, 201113 yr Well personally I find making your own songs good takes more talent than doing a decent cover of someone else's song. What do you think about Whitney Houston? Or Celine Dion? Or Andrea Bocelli? Or Josh Groban? to just name a few that never wrote their songs. What you are saying sounds like a good songwriter or getting a good songwriter. You can get a good songwriter like "Bleeding Love" or Adele's "Make You Feel My Love", but it is the artist's talented ability that sells it. That is really talent. Edited October 20, 201113 yr by jonmove
October 20, 201113 yr What do you think about Whitney Houston? Or Celine Dion? Or Andrea Bocelli? Or Josh Groban? to just name a few that never wrote their songs. What you are saying sounds like a good songwriter or getting a good songwriter. You can get a good songwriter like "Bleeding Love" or Adele's "Make You Feel My Love", but it is the artist's talented ability that sells it. That is really talent. true, but the fact that the artist wrote the song themselves for me outweighs the way they sing it (mainly anyway) I think its a bit easier selling a cover especially as the song itself is already well known, its what the artist DOES to the song that makes it better for me, and not a straight out carbon copy of the original
October 21, 201113 yr I don't think anyone will say that Whitney Houston is less talented than Katy Perry because she never wrote a single song. And would never hold it against Whitney Houston or Josh Groban or others as less talented when they are just not songwriters. Does not make them less talented. Singing a song is not easy. What recording artists have to do to perform and sing songs are very difficult. A recording artist is a recording artist. They have that talent to record. It is not a talent to be a songwriter. They can do both if they are able too, but not going to say Whitney Houston is less talented than Katy Perry. A good analogy is fashion designers. They have the talent to make designs. It is not fashion seamstress. Versace and Polo Ralph Lauren are not less talented than Vera Wang because she can sew. Don't you think it is the same level of difficulty to sing a song written by someone else (like "Bleeding Love" or "Bad Boys") vs. a song performed by someone else already (like "Make You Feel My Love" or "I Will Always Love You")? What is the difference other than where the royalties are going? Also, don't you think it is HARDER to sell a popular well-known song than a new song? People can just go out and buy the original. They might even have the original already, and won't care about buying the new version by another artist. And that is what a truly talented recording artist does, they have transformed the song (whether the song is already written or a new song). It is original. It is different. It stands equally as good if not better than the original (if a cover). (Also, let's be honest, when recording artist add their names as "co-writer", it is bullshit most of the time.) Edited October 21, 201113 yr by jonmove
October 21, 201113 yr In my opinion covers are fine if the artist puts their own stamp on them & brings something fresh to the table. Producing straightforward carbon copies of someone else's work is just lazy and makes the artist little more than a voice to hire. I also disagree that it's harder to sell a well known song than something new to the public. Songs with good airplay do a lot better after a tv performance than those not known to the public.
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