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Robbies been playing poker tonight on his poker site :huh:

 

 

I'M PLAYING FUNPOKER"

 

1 Mar 2012

 

Hi folks, I'm playing fun poker as 'Will74'....

 

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Why artists mustn't be drawn into an MP3 site's legal fight

 

Is it in the best interests of musicians to help the founder of an online music locker in his copyright battle with EMI !

 

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Robbie Williams' deal with EMI allows him to retain the rights to his music.

 

Michael Robertson wants to help "long suffering artists" reclaim ownership of their work. At least, that's what the founder of MP3.com and current CEO of MP3Tunes wrote in a guest post for Hypebot.com, in which he urged artists signed to EMI to help him defend himself against the label in an upcoming trial over copyright infringement.

 

 

MP3Tunes is a digital music locker. It lets users store their own music in "the cloud" as well as allowing them to store and manage links to streaming music found online, much of it from unauthorised sources. Robertson says his company is protected by the safe harbour provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1998. EMI says MP3Tunes should not be covered by the DMCA because it didn't remove unauthorised content when asked.

 

 

In his post, Robertson refers to a mid-1970s revision of US copyright law that granted artists "termination rights". The revision allows musicians and other creators of works of art to regain control of their work after 35 years – in other words, after that period, ownership reverts to the artists, who will then be able to collect 100% of the royalties they earn. The artist must file a termination notice at least two years before the date they want to recover their work, and the earliest recordings to fall under this law can be reclaimed by the beginning of 2013.

 

 

The major labels, however, claim termination rights do not apply to most sound recordings, as records are made as "work for hire". It's unclear whether the disagreement will lead to court battles, or whether artists and labels will be able to resolve the issue through negotiations.

 

 

I can only assume Robertson's reason for using this legal dispute to further his case is to claim EMI does not actually own the rights to much of the content it says MP3Tunes is infringing, but I find his plea somewhat disingenuous.

 

 

True, many artists have signed terrible deals, especially in the past. In the 1960s and 1970s, some deals gave artists just a few per cent in royalties. Of course they deserve to get their songs back after 35 years, even if they signed away the rights for good in return for advance payments and investment by the labels. But is partnering with the CEO of a site that offers a potential portal to music from unauthorised sources the right way to go about it? This is a man who said Pandora would never be profitable owing to the "unquenchable thirst for higher royalties of the music companies"; the online music service has to pay half of its revenue to music companies (songwriters get to share 0.38%-1.75% of gross revenue between them).

 

 

His argument also seems somewhat ill-informed – or, in worst case, wilfully misleading. At the bottom of his plea he's posted a list of "screwed FOREVER artists", which appears to be pretty much a list of all EMI artists, past and present. A number of artists on the list would be surprised to be called screwed. Perhaps Robertson, like Google and many other tech companies, feels US law applies – or at least should apply – to the entire world, because he's included loads of artists who are not American or US-based, such as Kylie Minogue, Mel C, Coldplay and the Swedish band Caesars. Robbie Williams's deal with EMI was a joint venture and he has retained the rights to his music – and I wouldn't classify him as a screwed artist, at least not financially.

 

It's not uncommon for artists to renegotiate their deals, even during the stipulated term of the contract. The Beatles' initial record deal would most likely have given them a couple of per cent in royalties, at the most, as was common in those days. But of course Paul McCartney doesn't get that little for Love Me Do or any of those records – as they got more successful, the band renegotiated their deal, even retrospectively.

 

 

Pink Floyd are also on Robertson's "screwed FOREVER artists list". He must have missed that the British group already took the label to court a few years back and, a year ago, settled the dispute, even signing a new contract with the label.

 

 

It's in the interest of those who use music without properly compensating musicians to paint record labels as pure evil, to justify their actions. But as Cracker and Camper van Beethoven founder David Lowery recently pointed out: "Essentially THE NEW BOSS in the new model is iTunes and Amazon (also indirectly Google). And THE NEW BOSS is actually more greedy than the old boss [the record label]." At least the "old boss" invested in artists, put up capital and took financial risks.

 

 

Artists who have signed away ownership of their work in perpetuity should contact organisations that advocate musicians' rights – not allow themselves to be pawns for someone fighting a legal battle to not compensate them.

 

 

Guardian UK Mar 02

From

http://www.fansshare.com/news/gary-barlow-...obbie-williams/

 

 

Gary Barlow writes songs for Robbie Williams

 

Take That singer songwriter Gary Barlow has revealed how he and his former Take That band mate Robbie Williams have been writing songs together and it is believed that Robbie will record one of said songs for his new album. Gary also admitted that, despite their rough relationship in the past, he and Robbie will be friends forever.

Barlow explained, "I've written some stuff already, actually, with Rob. I mean, Rob writes all year round. But I always said to him, 'If you get a sticky patch or whatever, I'll come in and reignite all that stuff'. I'm someone who's always creating, writing - I've always got ideas. So he can use me whenever he wants."

 

He added, "I do feel like it wasn't just an 18-month thing with me and Rob. I think we'll be friends forever now. "I promised everybody a year off. Cause we've pretty much done album, tour, album, tour for five years. So I said to everyone as we left the tour, 'I'll call you in a year.' Of course, I've called 'em all. But we haven't talked about music!" Robbie Williams is believed to be close to completing his latest album.

 

I bet you just can't all wait to hear what goodies Gary has written for Rob! :lol:

 

The more I hear from GB the more I like Robbie Williams (or rather - pity him!)

 

Call me a cynic - I don't care!

 

Kath

I bet you just can't all wait to hear what goodies Gary has written for Rob! :lol:

 

The more I hear from GB the more I like Robbie Williams (or rather - pity him!)

 

Call me a cynic - I don't care!

 

Kath

 

 

Kath !! How could you ..traitor <_<

Kath !! How could you ..traitor <_<
Traitor? Moi?

 

 

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I don't really care who has helped Robbie with a song on his album.

 

I just want to hear some new material, instead of hearing about poker sites, Farrell clothing and seeing pictures of Robbies dogs :wacko:

GB is turning into Cliff Richard. A saintly establishment figure. He seems to be behind every bloomin charity concert or Royal soiree this weather. He's beginning to annoy me again. <_<
GB is turning into Cliff Richard. A saintly establishment figure. He seems to be behind every bloomin charity concert or Royal soiree this weather.

 

Have you read my mind? This is exactly what i thought! No other celebrity songwriter would have been forgotten by the media all the flops, beginning with Britannia High and all the songs he wrote for his pals, excluding Robbie and Peter Kay (i still thing that Robbie's songs with Gary were bland and innofensive, I like only Peter Kay song). I think that the singers know that the songs are boring but they get media attention, more than writting with a good, but not a media darling, songwriter. This is naturally not the case of Robbie, as he make enough media news by himself.

 

For Robbie this album would be very important for his career, if he will turn in someone not cool enough anymore or in an icon. He sooo shoudn't go on the hand of Gary.

 

And Gary should give less songs to other people and only choosen very carefully. Is he so sure about himself, has he no doubts to give such bland and boring songs to the release and still gush in the media about the great masterpiece and the super collaboration with the singer? He is not anymore an underground songwriter, he should keep his profile. Less is sometimes more...

 

GB is turning into Cliff Richard. A saintly establishment figure. He seems to be behind every bloomin charity concert or Royal soiree this weather. He's beginning to annoy me again. <_<

 

Just pray it doesn't rain at Wimbledon this year - because for sure - Gary'll be there leading all the sorry fools (seriously what idiot pays £5 for five strawberries and a dribble of Elmlea?) in a rousing chorus!

 

He's been annoying the hell out of me for a while now - way before May 2010!!!! I'm just wondering how his nose can get a darker shade of brown!

 

Kath

From

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...nistration.html

 

 

LEAGUE TWO side Port Vale have become the latest club to go into administration.

 

The team — currently ninth in the table — will incur an automatic 10-point deduction under Football League rules.

 

It means they will drop to 14th — level on points with Burton but ahead of Albion on goal difference.

 

It is the second time Port Vale — whose celebrity fans include the pop star Robbie Williams — have gone into administration.

 

Administrator Bob Young said: "Our first priority is to look at every aspect of the operation of the business in order to stabilise the business and allow the club to remain trading until at least the end of the season..

 

"This can only be done by reducing all outgoings and costs in a considered and organised manner until they are covered by the known income that will be generated by the club over the coming months until the season ends in May.

 

"Once the initial exercise of stabilising the business has been completed, we will be looking to initiate conversations with potential buyers for the club, and hope that this process will deliver an offer that can be considered by the creditors of the company.

 

"During the course of our duties, we will establish the underlying reasons for the failure of the business, and we will investigate any matters that are brought to our attention."

 

The club first went into administration at the end of the 2001-02 season, where they remained for the following year until they were acquired by the fan-led Valiant 2001 consortium.

 

 

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From

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...nistration.html

LEAGUE TWO side Port Vale have become the latest club to go into administration.

 

The team — currently ninth in the table — will incur an automatic 10-point deduction under Football League rules.

 

It means they will drop to 14th — level on points with Burton but ahead of Albion on goal difference.

 

It is the second time Port Vale — whose celebrity fans include the pop star Robbie Williams — have gone into administration.

 

Administrator Bob Young said: "Our first priority is to look at every aspect of the operation of the business in order to stabilise the business and allow the club to remain trading until at least the end of the season..

 

"This can only be done by reducing all outgoings and costs in a considered and organised manner until they are covered by the known income that will be generated by the club over the coming months until the season ends in May.

 

"Once the initial exercise of stabilising the business has been completed, we will be looking to initiate conversations with potential buyers for the club, and hope that this process will deliver an offer that can be considered by the creditors of the company.

 

"During the course of our duties, we will establish the underlying reasons for the failure of the business, and we will investigate any matters that are brought to our attention."

 

The club first went into administration at the end of the 2001-02 season, where they remained for the following year until they were acquired by the fan-led Valiant 2001 consortium.

:(

 

 

Sorry but I couldn't care less <_<

From

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...nistration.html

LEAGUE TWO side Port Vale have become the latest club to go into administration.

 

The team — currently ninth in the table — will incur an automatic 10-point deduction under Football League rules.

 

It means they will drop to 14th — level on points with Burton but ahead of Albion on goal difference.

 

It is the second time Port Vale — whose celebrity fans include the pop star Robbie Williams — have gone into administration.

 

Administrator Bob Young said: "Our first priority is to look at every aspect of the operation of the business in order to stabilise the business and allow the club to remain trading until at least the end of the season..

 

"This can only be done by reducing all outgoings and costs in a considered and organised manner until they are covered by the known income that will be generated by the club over the coming months until the season ends in May.

 

"Once the initial exercise of stabilising the business has been completed, we will be looking to initiate conversations with potential buyers for the club, and hope that this process will deliver an offer that can be considered by the creditors of the company.

 

"During the course of our duties, we will establish the underlying reasons for the failure of the business, and we will investigate any matters that are brought to our attention."

 

The club first went into administration at the end of the 2001-02 season, where they remained for the following year until they were acquired by the fan-led Valiant 2001 consortium.

:(

 

 

Sorry but I couldn't care less <_<

Well, I guess if Glasgow Rangers can go into administration no club is safe. Robbie must be gutted though. :(

Robbie performing at a private party in Mexico

 

Thanks to TRWS

 

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