I noticed this about the sales from 2000 and 2004 and the end of year chart

 

2000: 54  Anastacia - Im Outta Love        227,000

2004: 07 Anastacia - Left Outside Alone 275,000

 

the 54 and 7 is there position in the end of year chart, and by the sales there actually quite close, and it shows that sales might be dropping?

wow thats a small difference, but in chart postions! this just proves, the charts slipping.

I didn't realise how low sales had sunk! Everyone knows sales have been slipping but that's quite an alarming difference :blink:

I noticed this about the sales from 2000 and 2004 and the end of year chart

 

2000: 54  Anastacia - Im Outta Love        227,000

2004: 07 Anastacia - Left Outside Alone 275,000

 

the 54 and 7 is there position in the end of year chart, and by the sales there actually quite close, and it shows that sales might be dropping?

 

:smoke: It doesn't take a year-end comparison to show the sales are slipping, you only have to look at how many times the lowest weekly sale record has been broken in the last 2 years compared to how often it was usually broken before then to see sales are going down. And 50,000 worth of sales - there could be a whole load of songs crammed in that space in the 2000 YE charts, so the difference might be smaller than 54-7.

Edited August 15, 200618 yr by Prince of Sheba

Sales have been dropping for a long time, if you think 28k for Shakira was bad on Sunday, without downloads added, it would have be even lower

Sales have been dropping for a long time, if you think 28k for Shakira was bad on Sunday, without downloads added, it would have be even lower

 

Yeah, the lowest number one sales would have been 12,000 by Chris Brown had downloads not been added.

Thank god for downloads or else Paris Hilton would have been #1 last week.

Thank god for downloads or else Paris Hilton would have been #1 last week.

 

:lol: That would be funny!

sales have been dropping for 6 years now. In 1998 and 1999 the top 20 singles of the year sold over 500,000 copies, now it's quite spectacular if one or two singles sell that amount.

 

The peak for sales was Christmas 1998, the entire top 20 that week all sold over 30,000 copies. Times have changed though, and a sale of 10,000 for #10 is now quite good..

sales have been dropping for 6 years now. In 1998 and 1999 the top 20 singles of the year sold over 500,000 copies, now it's quite spectacular if one or two singles sell that amount.

 

The peak for sales was Christmas 1998, the entire top 20 that week all sold over 30,000 copies. Times have changed though, and a sale of 10,000 for #10 is now quite good..

 

 

I read somewhere that all the top 5 sold over 100k that week. That was the week that Chef went to number 1.

 

Historically sales fluctuations have been cyclicle. When the charts began sales were very low - probably on a par with todays figures (with chart only downloads included). In the early-mid 1960s when the Beatles were having million sellers, the sales were pretty high taking into account the lack of so many different genres like today.

 

In the early 70s sales slumped and albums took off - then at the end of the 70s into the early 80s sales rose again to record levels in 78/79. There was another drop in sales from 1987-1994, with 1992 being the worst (but considerably more than at present). Then another high occured from 1995-1999. 1996/8/9 were almost the same yearly sales, 1997 with Candle In The Wind skewed the trend somewhat.

 

These low periods have always recovered to healthy sales figures. Although the problem is that these periods have never had to contend with the digital era of downloads. The recording industry and retailers were far too slow in recognising the fact that this was another market for sales - rather than it being a problem for them with piracy and undermining the profit margin in CDs. If in 1998/99/2000 they had started to offer mp3 downloads at good prices, then digital piracy would not be the huge problem in the developed world like physicals are in parts of Asia. If they had started before Napster then it might not have become as popular as it did - spawning dozens of other filesharing programmes since. Now it is just a game of catchup and damage limitation because of their myopia.

 

I think we will be lucky to see genuine chart sales (not sales of archived material included) rise above 60 million a year in the next 10 years.

Edited August 15, 200618 yr by dynamoe88

1997/1998/1999 are the biggest years for sales I think? So many huge hits in that time like Elton, Aqua, Cher, Puff Daddy/Faith Evans, Celine Dion, Natalie Imbruglia, Britney Spears I can think of way more. Sales were at their highest point at that time I remember on most weeks nearly the whole top 3 was clearing 100,000 copies and Shakira wouldn't have veen been #1 at all probably #7 or 8 at the highest.

 

 

Sales only seem to pick up a lot in the last three months of the year now and special days like Mothers Day etc.

Sales dropping?

 

I had NO IDEA :rolleyes:

 

:lol:

 

Ok, I didn't think that much either! 227k and not even top 50 in the year end only 6 years ago :o

Then again, you do have to consider that 2004 was VERY bad for sales, were it not for Band Aid the YE topper Eamon would have sold just above 500K. Sales are on the rise again, if you don't account for the really low sales. Last year we nearly had two million sellers - I think the last time we had one of those was 2001 or a year in the late nineties. I think sales will really begin to pick up again if filesharing is ever completely stopped. However, filesharing does have a few benefits - what I tend to do is download a song that I've heard about or like a few months before release date, then delete it if I don't like it, or keep it until release date, at which point I delete it and then buy the song legitimately. A big problem is the promotion overload many songs are given - heavy promotion on the radio weeks in advance. People who like the song usually have no choice but to download the song illegally. If we went back to the old ways and released songs simultaneously with radio play, the problem might not be as bad. Of course, there will always be people who download illegally because they don't want to pay for it, but the problem would be smaller if we didn't make people want the song weeks or months in advance. Sales would probably be larger overall for it.