This isnt looking good for Clinton nationally though, although nationally the pro Bernie vote will HOPEFULLY go back to Clinton|!

Clinton's average lead over Trump is 11.2 points, Bernie's is 17.5 (in polls taken during the last week). That IS a big difference for sure, but there are so many factors to read into that it doesn't mean a lot at this stage. I'd say the main one being that Bernie is obviously a well known figure now, but he's not been attacked by the GOP to any great degree because Clinton is still (and has been for some time now) the likely nominee.

he also would be fairly vulnerable to a concerted attack were he to be the candidate against Trump, lamb to the slaughter. Politically, I'm a supporter of his policies, realistically Clinton is better placed to beat Trump and that must be the main aim of the Democrats, Trump is just too Mad Dog to risk anything else. In a sane world we would have intelligent measured sane candidates, but this is a warped devisive selfish world and I'll opt for the first female President of the USA over .... (insert as appropriate)

Well, exactly.

 

(That said though I'm more aligned with Clinton ANYWAY so it's win win over here)

Surely most social democrats are aligned with Clinton Sanders would be too radical for their afraid conservative rational minds :P

Surely most social democrats are aligned with Clinton Sanders would be too radical for their afraid conservative rational minds :P

You literally have the words 'social democrat' and 'conservative' in that sentence and yet somehow you're still confusing them. Impressive.

Even more impressive that you think a social democrat is any different in mindset to a conservative!

Superb trolling attempt, would give 4 stars on Tripadvisor.

I think I've won the bet.

 

He has massive MOMENTUM.

 

Yes, so it's pro-Bernie commentators calling for her to drop out and reporting that on at least ONE NATIONAL POLL he's overtaken by 1%, but given the HUGE MARGINS he's winning by, 75% in four states ... and the momentum, plus the move towards a zeitgeist pointing in the direction of socialism, as it is here, and that's why Corbyn AND Sanders will win.

 

Also Sanders is winning these caucuses and primaries because of youth vote, momentum and INDEPENDENTS!!

 

Which, as much as I love Hillary, makes HIM the stronger candidate with more cross over appeal!

Edited March 30, 20169 yr by Virginia's Walls

I think I've won the bet.

 

He has massive MOMENTUM.

 

Yes, so it's pro-Bernie commentators calling for her to drop out and reporting that on at least ONE NATIONAL POLL he's overtaken by 1%, but given the HUGE MARGINS he's winning by, 75% in four states ... and the momentum, plus the move towards a zeitgeist pointing in the direction of socialism, as it is here, and that's why Corbyn AND Sanders will win.

 

Also Sanders is winning these caucuses and primaries because of youth vote, momentum and INDEPENDENTS!!

 

Which, as much as I love Hillary, makes HIM the stronger candidate with more cross over appeal!

quoting this post for posterity

 

enjoy your new name once the convention rolls around!

Turns out Bernie Sanders might have won Nevada after all!!!

 

(he did of course lose the actual voting, but he might end up with more delegates due to their ridiculous caucus system)

Cruz and Sanders won Wisconsin, neither of which is a surprise. Bad news for Trump obviously as that makes his path to 1237 even more difficult, but Sanders only caught up 14 delegates so no big deal there.

But MOMENTUM John, MOMENTUM!!!

He will win Wyoming and that will give him momentum enough to win New York. He will win every ither state except Maryland and Penslyvania, giving him the momentum to win Cali. Annd race over? Superdelegates will switch then.

He absolutely won't win New York. It'll be close, a lot closer than I think HRC/her campaign would have wanted or hoped for, but even if she wins by single digits the win there will mean one more BIG delegate prize off the table for him to make up meaningful ground. Then Maryland and Pennsylvania at the end of the month and once again the ''momentum'' is back with her.

 

It's obvious the last few results have been a major PR coup for Sanders, but much like the Southern sweep for HRC in February it's more down to the layout of the elections than any real, clear momentum being built up. Indeed this is only his THIRD primary win, after Vermont and New Hampshire, in a very liberal state, so tailor made for him again. The major primaries upcoming are diverse states in terms of ideologies AND ethnic make up, states Hillary has won ALL OF in primaries so far.

Oklahoma and Michigan were also primaries. But his problem is not as much primaries as specifically closed primaries (I believe New Hampshire is his only closed primary win). Unfortunately for him, there are a lot of closed primaries left. If every state had open primaries/caucuses he'd have a far better shot.

I think Sanders has an outside shot of winning New York, actually. It's more ethnically diverse than Wisconsin, but it's also considerably more left-wing - and it's arguably more of a "home state" for Sanders than it is for Clinton.

 

It won't make a difference to the overall picture though, because Clinton just racked up much too big delegate advantages in the South.

Edited April 6, 20169 yr by Danny

Oklahoma and Michigan were also primaries. But his problem is not as much primaries as specifically closed primaries (I believe New Hampshire is his only closed primary win). Unfortunately for him, there are a lot of closed primaries left. If every state had open primaries/caucuses he'd have a far better shot.

 

I think New York is the one state where the closed system might work in his favour -- most Wall Street bankers (who would presumably favour Clinton overwhelmingly) are unlikely to be registered Democrats.

Oklahoma and Michigan were also primaries. But his problem is not as much primaries as specifically closed primaries (I believe New Hampshire is his only closed primary win). Unfortunately for him, there are a lot of closed primaries left. If every state had open primaries/caucuses he'd have a far better shot.

 

This is all true, thank you for providing more accurate STATS to combat the MOMENTUM!!11!!! debate than I could muster.

I think New York is the one state where the closed system might work in his favour -- most Wall Street bankers (who would presumably favour Clinton overwhelmingly) are unlikely to be registered Democrats.

 

I'd have said New York is possibly the worst example of closed primaries screwing him over, since the deadline for independents to register Democrat was back in October (before even the first debate I think!) - at least in other states the campaign had until maybe a couple of weeks before the voting (i.e. when people had actually heard of him) to get people registered, there was pretty much never a hope of this in NY.