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I thought Democrats were voting early at a higher rate than in 2012 in Florida, and Obama still won Florida that election? Florida isn't a must-win state for Clinton anyway, she just needs Pennsylvania, Virginia, Colorado, and New Hampshire or Nevada. She's been polling high in the first four, and Democratic early voting is up in Nevada. He can still win, but saying this incident is definitely going to make her lose is premature. We still don't know what's left on Trump either.

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I have North Carolina and Penn under the fascist's momentum umbrella.

 

North Carolina was always going to be close, though early voting has her ahead of Obama 12, but there is no way he wins PA. He's trailing Romney in almost every area of early voting BAR the Northeast and interestingly more people who didn't vote in 2012 are breaking for her than him. At this stage she's probaby going to lose Ioaw, Ohio, Arizona of the swing states, which would still give her PA, NH, NV at the very least plus a tossup in Florida and North Carolina which she doesn't even NEED to win (he does, however).

 

I'm going to guess her final total is in around 285 EV, you're right that the momentum is trending his way right now (he's cut her lead from about 7 to 5 this week) but it isn't moving the needle much in many of the swing states other than Ohio (which he was probably going win) and Iowa and Arizona (both of which he was almost certainly going to win anyway).

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Hillary will still win imo. It'll be great to have the first female US president. I was all for her until Donald decided to stand so would prefer him to win.

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North Carolina was always going to be close, though early voting has her ahead of Obama 12, but there is no way he wins PA. He's trailing Romney in almost every area of early voting BAR the Northeast and interestingly more people who didn't vote in 2012 are breaking for her than him. At this stage she's probaby going to lose Ioaw, Ohio, Arizona of the swing states, which would still give her PA, NH, NV at the very least plus a tossup in Florida and North Carolina which she doesn't even NEED to win (he does, however).

 

I'm going to guess her final total is in around 285 EV, you're right that the momentum is trending his way right now (he's cut her lead from about 7 to 5 this week) but it isn't moving the needle much in many of the swing states other than Ohio (which he was probably going win) and Iowa and Arizona (both of which he was almost certainly going to win anyway).

 

Ohio siempre votes for the winner though :/ True bellweather.

Ohio siempre votes for the winner though :/ True bellweather.

That's not the best way of looking at it. Democratic candidates have won twice without Ohio (it could have been three if Gore really did win Florida), but a Republican never has. There's a reason Trump may win it, but not the presidency, because the state's less diverse, has a population that trends older, and has fewer residents with college degrees. Latinx turnout seems to be energized in states like Florida and Nevada, which may make it more difficult for him to win there.

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Ohio siempre votes for the winner though :/ True bellweather.

 

So did Missouri for a century. Then it didn't.

Early voting data may be a bit confusing and probably not wholly representative of how things will pan out, but if it does follow the same (or indeed a similar) pattern as 2008/12, then HRC has Nevada in the bag and North Carolina will be very, very close. If she wins both of those it's game over (assuming she holds everything else she's currently predicted to win, all of which she is up 6 at least in).
So did Missouri for a century. Then it didn't.

It's funny how states have trended. California used to be reliably Republican, and states like West Virginia and Texas used to vote Democratic a lot.

It's funny how states have trended. California used to be reliably Republican, and states like West Virginia and Texas used to vote Democratic a lot.
Well I'm glad the Californians got their shit together
This is relevant in that regard:

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/stagg...science-fiction

 

Also, FiveThirtyEight has it that Pennsylvania will get her across the line. That's assuming Trump wins all of North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Arizona and Nevada, which is pretty unlikely.

I wish Pennsylvania did early voting though. Early voting in Florida, North Carolina, and Nevada looks promising for Clinton, but I'm hoping she can get many more voters to the polls this weekend. She's currently ahead of where President Obama was in Florida in 2012, and he still ended up winning the state by ~60,000 votes, despite Romney doing well in early voting.

I wish Pennsylvania did early voting though. Early voting in Florida, North Carolina, and Nevada looks promising for Clinton, but I'm hoping she can get many more voters to the polls this weekend. She's currently ahead of where President Obama was in Florida in 2012, and he still ended up winning the state by ~60,000 votes, despite Romney doing well in early voting.

 

From my sources looking at the early voting, Trump will win Florida and Ohio easily, North Carolina is a lot closer but providing people turn out on election day to vote for Trump as much as they did for Romney in 2012 then Trump will win that state. Nevada is a lot, lot, closer, too soon to call that one.

OOPS! They did it again. If republicans could stop wasting our tax money on repeatedly reopening the email case, that would be GRAND. They have been on a year long witch hunt looking for any chance to further demonize her for the very same things dozens of members of their own party are guilty for. Republicans pulled security back from Benghazi, yet Clinton gets named? It just shows how uneducated and naive people are.

 

The House committee investigating terror attack in Benghazi today released its report. After a two-year $7 million investigation, the eighth investigation to date, the authors of the report make no new accusations and provide no new evidence of wrongdoing against Clinton. The assault on the American embassy in Benghazi was a tragedy for all Americans. Four Americans lost their lives on that fateful day and NO amount of finger pointing will bring those brave individuals back to life. However, if one were looking to assess blame they might look to the Republican committee which cut the funding to security for embassies. Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz was asked less than a month after the attacks on Oct. 10 2012, “Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?” Cheffetz replied, “Absolutely! Look, we have to make priorities in this country.” He continued, “When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.”

 

(Not hypocritical at all, right?!?)

 

The question I want answered is; Will the Republican party spend millions of dollars investigating themselves for their own actual, provable, fault in the death of American patriots? Absolutely not. Just as usual they continue to focus on a series of blame games instead of actual politics. I don't see the Democratic Party pushing for case openings for Trumps several rape charges, civil suits, etc? These poor white f***s of America who put "Hillary for prison" in front of their trailers are the same people fighting to keep transgendered people out of public restrooms out of FEAR for their daughters. Yet they want a rapist as their president. Oh and they also want to have their taxes raised, because if you haven't realized by now, they're dumb as shit. I like to call it the sharecropper complex.

 

Instead of religion being used to justify tax cuts for the rich and inequality for minorities, they are using smear campaigns and a renegade rich prick pretending to be someone from the outside. If you support that in order to chastise Hillary Clinton, you are the problem. Ignorance is bliss, but it's not a sound foundation to argue how you're going to make America "great" again.

 

Listen, I'm not sure if the media works the same for you guys over across the pond, during election season. But, this election is over. Clinton's only fear is complacency over voters thinking "I don't even need to vote, she's got it in the bag." Trumps already capitalized on all his numbers. Minorities are always the last to declare their vote and they are what make those swing states swing. Those minorities are overwhelmingly going to side with Clinton.

 

Bookmark me. Even my historically red state, Georgia has a projected win for Hillary.

 

It's President Clinton, bitch.

 

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From my sources looking at the early voting, Trump will win Florida and Ohio easily, North Carolina is a lot closer but providing people turn out on election day to vote for Trump as much as they did for Romney in 2012 then Trump will win that state. Nevada is a lot, lot, closer, too soon to call that one.

 

Who are your sources revealing confidential information pre-election? :huh:

I'm unfortunately calling it for the gross octopus orangutan, Tyler :(

 

Bookmark me.

 

Teresa May and Donald Trump. :///

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But for real babe. Haven't all your hunches about the USA election been a bit OFF thus far?

 

 

Not according to the leaked emails which showed they knee Bernie was more popular! So I was right there. His momentum fell a bit towards the end but had it ocntinuef at that rate and the election season was longer ... so I wasn't wrong.

He isn't the presidential nominee, but, I digress. He's only experiencing an upswing because of the severe backlash and loss of numbers he's experienced since the final debate.

 

He might have a good chance of winning if you believe in the majority of conspiracy theories. Sincerely no offense meant there, just the only way it seems possible.

From my sources looking at the early voting, Trump will win Florida and Ohio easily, North Carolina is a lot closer but providing people turn out on election day to vote for Trump as much as they did for Romney in 2012 then Trump will win that state. Nevada is a lot, lot, closer, too soon to call that one.

What sources? The early voting information I've seen out of Florida shows that Democrats have improved their numbers from this time in 2012, and President Obama still won the state that year. North Carolina has also been very close the last two elections, so that's not a surprise, but the awful governor there seems to have energized the minority vote. Regardless, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Nevada, and Iowa are not enough for Trump to win. Trump would have to flip Pennsylvania, Virginia, Colorado, or New Hampshire, and doing so seems very unlikely at this point as they've consistently been polling outside the margin of error this cycle.

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