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The type of show that Gaga put is something i would expect from maybe Ozzy Osbourne, except Gaga is NOT Ozzy or is there any conection at all. This show while it was pretty "badass" was just really offputting. Idk, her performing in her puke ridden stage, no organization, paying dust to DWUW, no new single,etc. I get it's a festival but this just didnt feel right. :(

I love her but I can't even defend the puking on. THAT is attention seeking... sad.

Horrible.

She just strengthed, deepend and completed her role as a pop icon with this perfomance - completely dividing her fanbase which she vowed and declared to do with this album. She just put herself on a spit roast at a festival, had a girl throw up on her, and splattered herself in matter that physcially made me wanna gag. She is extremely sophisticated in how she mixes it up as a pop artist from festival to festival, performance to performance, appearing as both someone out of control and difficult to comprehend and magnificent in the artifice she creates around and about herself - exposing fame/being a popstar for how it truly is. She hasn't neccesarily changed her game - and this performance wasn't without it's pitfalls - but she f***ing entertained, you can't deny.

 

Gaga is obviously an artist who is hard to stomach and not for the faint hearted who want her to be what she never was. Looking back on the 'Swine' performance, I can really appreciate the effect it had, it added an extra layer of disgust to the song. I also feel there's definitely a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about and this her therapeutic way of dealing with it, what ever helps her. The performance was designed to leave you stunned and people moan that nothing she does is shocking any more and now they are complaining. That is the art of it. The next show she will be clean cut. The art of transformation, the sides of her personality and a taste of her past.

 

The show was raaw, viceral and brilliant. The 'Swine' performance especially, was once again a work of brutal art. An artist puts out real art with meaning behind it and Gaga is an artist. What you are saying is that you don't try to interpret what is meant and that you want everything spoon fed to you which is the problem with this fan base. Would you have known what 'Swine" was about if Gaga hadn't told us it was about rape? Would you have understood 'ARTPOP' if Gaga hadn't explained it? These are rhetorical questions but prove my point that people don't "get" Gaga. Lady Gaga's art throughout her career has been about the fame. How have you missed that? I think that

the destruction of the pop star could be a possible performance piece and one that has been planned. But I could be wrong. All art is open to interpretation.

 

No offence but it seems to me that the some of you are all a bunch of kids that want some Ariana Grande bubblegum crap with a bit of a shock value. But the moment Gaga "looks dirty" and does something no other pop star would do people start shading her. Well Gaga is Gaga and ain't gonna conform to what people think she should be. I accept her warts and all. She might do a performance like this once in a while that isn't everybody's cup of tea but I appreciate her versatility and the meaning that she is trying to evoke to us. A lot of her fans don't appreciate the real feeling and emotion that she puts into her art.

 

I think when she criticized 'Applause' and pop music she was actually just having a little rant about the fact that Interscope didn't let her have full creative responsibility. She might have wanted to perform 'Mary Jane Holland,' for example but got told "no, perform a recent single". I applaud Gaga for living up to her name and giving us something Gaga and not something mainstream. So thank you Gaga, please continue to be your godly self.

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There is nothing sophisticated about having someone throw up on you on stage :lol: There is a limit to what can be classifed as "art" before it is just plain

disgusting and offputting and she went way past that limit.

Gaga has everyone right where she wants them. She is rehearsed and she knows what she is doing. Saying that the puking on her was not performance art. Dig a little deeper. Who are you to say that what she is doing is not art? She created this moment and it's getting a reaction. This was a premeditated performance. Hence a form of art. Its got people in an uproar. What I got from the performance was her saying that she is not commercial, and she is free to do what she wants. This goes back to her lighting hairspray on fire back in the day. People who are shading ARTPOP constantly saying its a mess of an album that makes no sense wanted to see the girl behind the aura. The messed up coked up girl who doesn't give a shit. This was brilliant. This was Stefani back in the day. If you've followed Gaga closely since 09, this side of Gaga shouldn't shock you. You've seen her get all messy many times, seen her crowd surf at festivals, seen her do raw vocals, know she loves metal, etc. She's always about "trying hard" to take it to the extreme.

Unbelievable.

 

It's disgusting, that is not art.

 

If she wants me to abandon her for Katy Perry/ Rihanna and adult-contemp., then she is going the right way about it!

 

Roasted on stage, I mean it's just surreal to even write it, puked on, it's all attention seeking. If the music was better on this album maybe we wouldn't see this try-hard Faux Ozzy shat.

 

She should just release Gypsy, Artpop as the last two great songs left, go away for a couple years and come back with an album where she has message or at least something to say like an artist. She needs to return to it being all about the music.

 

Getting puked on has diminished her for me and a lot of other people. She is already seen as a joke, this will just have cemented it.

 

At the moment she is going the way of Britney, who should've retired post-GH until she had something better to say. If she wants to avoid being a minor popstar, then she should learn from this.

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I absolutely adored that performance of "Swine" bar the pretentious self-noting "This is art. f*** pop music. This is art" nonsense wasn't needed as the stage performance itself justified her message.

 

My only problem with the performance was the woman should have been offstage until the throwing up part. Watching her just stood there on stage was like seeing a crazy fan managing to sneak on stage and not really having anything to do.

Gaga has everyone right where she wants them. She is rehearsed and she knows what she is doing. Saying that the puking on her was not performance art. Dig a little deeper. Who are you to say that what she is doing is not art? She created this moment and it's getting a reaction. This was a premeditated performance. Hence a form of art. Its got people in an uproar. What I got from the performance was her saying that she is not commercial, and she is free to do what she wants. This goes back to her lighting hairspray on fire back in the day. People who are shading ARTPOP constantly saying its a mess of an album that makes no sense wanted to see the girl behind the aura. The messed up coked up girl who doesn't give a shit. This was brilliant. This was Stefani back in the day. If you've followed Gaga closely since 09, this side of Gaga shouldn't shock you. You've seen her get all messy many times, seen her crowd surf at festivals, seen her do raw vocals, know she loves metal, etc. She's always about "trying hard" to take it to the extreme.

 

I quote you:

All art is open to interpretation.

 

I do not see it as art. I see it as a desperate woman trying too hard to be contriversal and clinging onto what little relevence she has left. It was not art to me.

I don't know why all of you act like the performance was a masterpiece. Stanning doesn't mean to like everything your fave does, it's okay if you don't.
It is my favorite Gaga show ever. :cheer: I had a feeling we would see that girl work with gaga again. I just really loved it.
I was so blown away by this amazing performance. I'm so proud of how much she's grown. She truly is a creative rebellion :cheer:
It was an incredible performance. This is exactly what I want from Gaga. Don't ask for attitudey bitchGa if you can't handle her guys :D
No offence but it seems to me that the some of you are all a bunch of kids that want some Ariana Grande bubblegum crap with a bit of a shock value.

 

Yeah, no offence but you don't know my tastes AT ALL.

 

She is a desperate attention seeker, you can't deny that.

Only people who have an emotional conection to her music are defending this. For everyone else, well it's quite odd and unneeded really.
I quote you:

I do not see it as art. I see it as a desperate woman trying too hard to be contriversal and clinging onto what little relevence she has left. It was not art to me.

How can it not be art if you're interpreting it based on its artistic values tho? If it weren't art she would just be standing on a stage wearing a pretty dress and smiling which is what some Buzzjackers expect after being spoon fed that way from the likes of Kylie and Beyoncé. Some of you just don't appreciate the real feeling and emotion that she puts into her art.

That is not what Beyonce does most of the time and I'm sure that's not the case for Kylie either. Maybe a better example would be Katy Perry.

 

They behave like normal people is what they do.

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That is not what Beyonce does most of the time and I'm sure that's not the case for Kylie either. Maybe a better example would be Katy Perry.

 

They behave like normal people is what they do.

If you're used to the beige why do you bother with true artists like Gaga then who is known for shocking the industry since the beginning of her career?

Used to the beige? WHAT! XD

 

Gaga hasn't shocked the music industry, more like ripped off artists from the music industry. Now most people just don't care anymore.

Gaga hasn't shocked the music industry, more like ripped off artists from the music industry. Now most people just don't care anymore.

You know that is an utter lie. If it were so, her music videos and live performances wouldn't get the heights of attention they do. If it were so, this performance wouldn't be the most talked about in the USA at the moment and on every blog and headline.

Yeah, I'm kind of talking about the music industry which was mentioned in your post. The media wasn't.

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