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Tywin no :cry:

 

I will definitely miss Charles Dance's wondrous acting from the show, high body count finale tonight though, even by the show's standards, it really feels like we have very few people left even though about 40 characters are still very alive and well.

 

Think that might be the best episode of the season though, felt like loads happened in a short space of time which is not a feeling I've had most of this season. Most heartbreaking bit of possibly the season with Dany locking her dragons away and a very lovely heroic ending with Arya and that wonderful music.

 

Next season can't come soon enough.

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I'm really angry with them for missing something from this books, which will mostly like drag over into the next season. But it would've been the perfect cliffhanger!

 

Other than that, it was a good episode. Especially the Tywin/Tyrion scenes.

I liked it, was certainly fast paced. Just think perhaps TOO much happened.

 

Bran's storyline suddenly got interesting finally :D

 

Melisandre loves her younger men doesn't she...

oh my god DEAD ON THE TOILET. I CANNOT!

 

Cersei was so fabulous *.*

 

The dragon scene :cry: Shae :cry:

Very good episode, a LOT more entertaining than most of the episodes this series, the show is basically back on business although it's a bit late for that. :lol:

 

I didn't really understand where Stannis came from with his huge army and how he won the battle in about 45 seconds, but oh well, good for him. They make such a big deal of the wall but in the end it looks like you don't necessarily have to cross it to go North/South (Stannis didn't cross the wall to go there), so it makes the whole wall thing quite meaningless.

 

FINALLY something happened with Bran, although I'm sad his cute friend died. I can't wait to see what happens with him there, probably the most exciting new part of the show.

 

I wish Cersei died instead of her father, she's such a waste of a character now and her whole brother lovestory is getting old now (weren't they f***ing in one of the first scenes of the show, 4 series ago?). GET OVER IT GIRL, especially as everyone knows for a long time already.

 

I wasn't particularly sad for the Hound.

 

The dragon scene was boring as usual. And what happened to the 3rd dragon? Am I forgetting something? Anyway, it's unbelievable how boring and repetitive this series has been for her. It's like her story has been paused for the whole series. They better resume it in series 5.

 

Bring on series 5 although they better learn from their mistakes to make she show even more fun to watch.

Isn't it implied that Drogo the dragon has gone missing? iirc it's also her strongest and most powerful dragon, so chances are it will show up again and burn something/someone to the ground, or just abandon her completely.

 

The problem the show has is obviously the source material. For some characters it's great, and for others, less so.

I think it's implied with Stannis' army that they got to the north of the wall by sea. They'd have had to be on boats from Braavos and the wall doesn't extend into the ocean. Also as far as I understand there are Nights Watch at either end of the wall to guard the passages by sea (I think taking pretty much the entire wildling population by those routes is too hazardous so that's why Mance went straight for Castle Black)

Although it certainly didn't LOOK like Mance was anywhere near his hundred thousand given that Stannis was easily able to surround and Riders of Rohan his ass with about sixty at best in that wood.

 

I know the number isn't all men of fighting age but the wildlings capitulated very easily. One wonders whether perhaps Stannis will use them to his advantage next season now he's in a position to strike a bargain with them.

Stannis took his army by sea, the freefolk don't have the shipbuilding skills to send an army by sea themselves and Drogon was said to be last seen near the cliffs. Mance also stated he'd sent a large contingent of men to the flanks so his entire army wasn't there.

Decent enough final episode, I think my favourite bit was the scene between Arya/Hound/Brienne/Podrick. I really had no idea how that was going to pan out, although I suppose the Hound was slowly deteriorating anyway (plus I guess we haven't actually seen him die as yet). I'm not sure I understood the final scene either, Arya showed a coin of iron (or steel?) to the boatman and I couldn't really understand the significance of it. Is he supposed to have realised she was a Stark?

 

As for the rest of it, I enjoyed the Tyrion/Tywin scene - although it somehow felt rushed and a little too easy an escape after the long build up of Tyrion's storyline. I am however really looking forward to next season if it's likely to contain more scenes between Tyrion and Varys as both are among my favourites, especially in dialog.

 

I find everything about the Wall / Stannis to be completely DULL. Especially as Ygritte has now died :( :( :(

 

Bran's story did indeed finally get interesting, although it feels like he's in a completely different story from everyone else, a sort of dark fairytale if you will. I assume he will train to be some sort of magician or permanently use his whatdoyoucallitwherehecontrolsanimalsandhodorspower from now on. I do hope so anyway as I find it really boring watching him be pulled around everywhere on a sled.

 

The coin is from that guy that changed faces right? I assume he's some sort of royalty/big deal on the other side of the sea (say this having it been two years since I watched Season 2!) hence why the captain just let her aboard.
Oh okay, that would indeed make more sense. I'd forgotten all about him, even though at the time I remember thinking she's bound to end up taking him up on his offer of being around if ever she needed him.
The coin is from that guy that changed faces right? I assume he's some sort of royalty/big deal on the other side of the sea (say this having it been two years since I watched Season 2!) hence why the captain just let her aboard.

It was a Braavosi coin. You can see plenty of them in the opening credits. The coin was given her by Jaqen Ha'ghar in season 2. He is one of the 'faceless men' assassins. He told her to show it to a Braavosi man if she ever wanted to come to Bravos and to say Valar Morghulis (All men must die).

 

That is why the ships captain reacted the way he did.

 

It's all there in season 2. From the moment he had that conversation with her I knew she'd end up there sooner or later. That's also why the ending was done the way it was. She is now finally embarking on her own journey instead of being dragged around by everyone else.

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I'm happy with the direction of her story, anything has to be better than her original wish to travel North and join the dullards at the Wall.
As for the rest of it, I enjoyed the Tyrion/Tywin scene - although it somehow felt rushed and a little too easy an escape after the long build up of Tyrion's storyline.

 

This is the one thing that does annoy me in GoT. They make such long build ups and drag stuff on forever, to finally come to an easy and quite rushed/ridiculous conclusion.

If it were that easy for Tyron to escape (and it was plain easy, I mean there weren't even guards around his cell...), it could have happened about 8 episodes ago. Jamie didn't need to wait so long considering Tyrion was always going to be sentenced to death anyway.

And I'm surprised that people like Tywin don't have at least a few people/knights/bodyguards around him to ensure his security day and night. It's KING'S LANDNIG for f*** sake, murders happens everyday there, his grandson the King was poisoned a few weeks back, and still, Tywin seem to have quite low standards on personnal security. :huh:

This is the one thing that does annoy me in GoT. They make such long build ups and drag stuff on forever, to finally come to an easy and quite rushed/ridiculous conclusion.

If it were that easy for Tyron to escape (and it was plain easy, I mean there weren't even guards around his cell...), it could have happened about 8 episodes ago. Jamie didn't need to wait so long considering Tyrion was always going to be sentenced to death anyway.

And I'm surprised that people like Tywin don't have at least a few people/knights/bodyguards around him to ensure his security day and night. It's KING'S LANDNIG for f*** sake, murders happens everyday there, his grandson the King was poisoned a few weeks back, and still, Tywin seem to have quite low standards on personnal security. :huh:

I agree it wasn't explained very well how Jamie managed to get rid of all the guards but it's not too difficult to surmise he took them by surprise as they would have trusted him. You can clearly see 2 unconcious guards outside his cell.

 

As for sneaking into Tywin's room, that's not such a problem as he used the secret passageway that leads directly to the Hand of The King's quarters. Few know of it's existence so it would have been unguarded. Having been the King's Hand himself, of course, he knew exactly where it would be. The guards outside would have been unaware of what occured inside until far too late.

 

As for the long build ups, you have to bear in mind that all this stuff is going on at pretty much the same time so in order to keep chronological integrity they have to jmp around a lot. The consequence is some things seem to take an age to happen and because of the 10 episode constraint they probably spent less time on some matters than they would have wished.

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Very good final episode. Some big losses in the form of Tywin/ The Hound but I think it was fairly clear they'd be exiting soon (admittedly I read about the former's exit in the boom synopsis). I agree that the final scene between him and Tyrion was a bit rushed though, especially considering what both actors were capable of, it could've been so much better. Kings Landing doesn't seem like it'll half as interesting now though, hopefully the Stark children's storylines moving forward will become more of a focal point, and Danaerys, definitely.

 

I find Stannis so so unlikeable so find it very difficult to care about his storyline, though I was quite interested in what was happening with his daughter and Davos even though it's only been touched on so far, hope they don't completely abandon that yet.

 

Such an amazing series overall, the wait to next series is not gonna be good.

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The guy who plays The Mountain could get it anytime anywhere any place
I agree it wasn't explained very well how Jamie managed to get rid of all the guards but it's not too difficult to surmise he took them by surprise as they would have trusted him. You can clearly see 2 unconcious guards outside his cell.

 

As for sneaking into Tywin's room, that's not such a problem as he used the secret passageway that leads directly to the Hand of The King's quarters. Few know of it's existence so it would have been unguarded. Having been the King's Hand himself, of course, he knew exactly where it would be. The guards outside would have been unaware of what occured inside until far too late.

 

As for the long build ups, you have to bear in mind that all this stuff is going on at pretty much the same time so in order to keep chronological integrity they have to jmp around a lot. The consequence is some things seem to take an age to happen and because of the 10 episode constraint they probably spent less time on some matters than they would have wished.

 

 

I think I'm mostly annoyed because if Jamie had freed Tyron earlier, Oberyn wouldn't be dead. :cry:

 

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