Wouldn't have a clue,sorry.,its the first I heard of it.

The article states that the exclusiveness with Google Play was an one month deal : http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/google-...xclusive/060215

It seems like a lot of albums are benefitting from the discount. It wouldn't be a bad idea if TT had one too, although, to me, it's a bit unfair that the albums sales are boosted by lowering the price. An album should sell for itself, not because it's cheap.

It seems like a lot of albums are benefitting from the discount. It wouldn't be a bad idea if TT had one too, although, to me, it's a bit unfair that the albums sales are boosted by lowering the price. An album should sell for itself, not because it's cheap.

 

Its not as if TT haven't benefited from this in the past though.

 

Besides - I don't know why people get so het up about album sales - they mean absolutely nothing in the bigger scale of things.

 

Its not as if TT haven't benefited from this in the past though.

 

Besides - I don't know why people get so het up about album sales - they mean absolutely nothing in the bigger scale of things.

 

I know all artists benefit from discounts at one point or another. I just don't think it's fair that this happens less than an year after release. The likes of Olly, Ella, John Legend and many many others could have waited a bit more before lowering the price. 4-5 pounds for an album sounds like a desperate attempt at staying up in the charts. I'd have said the same were TT in their place.

 

I thought album sales were the most important - isn't that what keeps artists signed to labels?

III was available for 99p one day last week on Google Play.

III was available for 99p one day last week on Google Play.

 

I know, but that was for one day only and I'm positive most of the fans weren't even aware.

These Days #8 in the Mids.

III drops to #12 - disappointed with that

These Days #8 in the Mids.

III drops to #12 - disappointed with that

I'm a bit disappointed too. I was hoping it would be in top 10 still, but I guess it's not much of a surprise. A lot of albums have climbed up thanks to the discounts. Maybe next week III will be back in top 10.

There's no doubt that' a poor outcome. If the album can't hold up now it will drop significantly in January and sales will be really low. I still can't get my head around the low sales for this album. The sales drop from previous albums is massive and they've undoubtedly seen a real drop in their popularity.

 

I've said it before but it's such a shame because the album deserves much, much better. Who would have predicted that Olly Murs and One Direction would out sell Take That through December. and older albums such as Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran would see such a resurgence in their sales. Although the loss of Jason will have been factored it I don't think the record company would have predicted such a significant drop in their album sales and I don't think the lads will have either. I think they would have predicted around the million mark given the general drop in album sales, loss of Jay etc, but no way would they have expected sales struggling to reach 500,000.

 

It's been mentioned they may release another album next December. If their sales drop further next year I think they'll consider their future and finish with a final tour in 2016/17 and a release of a greatest hits album.

I can't imagine that theyll release another so soon. Get Ready For It is now massive for this album. It really needs to resonate, but I'm not sure it will. Maybe album sales will rebound around the time of the tour.

 

Think it's almost a given now that the next record they release will be a Greatest Hits.

It's a pity that Get Ready for It has to be the second single but I guess it's tied in with the film. To generate sales they needed to release one of the stronger songs off the album - so I think they've missed an opportunity to kick start the album again. I am surprised that These Days has held up so well - although sales are still significantly lower than The Flood.

 

I personally wouldn't have chosen These Days as the lead single. Although catchy it is a throw away type of song - not sure which song I would have released first but it wouldn't have been that one.

 

At this point it looks like sales of SISYL are going to be stronger than lll - who would have predicted that a year ago!!

 

 

 

When they release a Greatest Hits I hope it's 2006 - present and not the idea of a best of as that can always come later afterwards. They might be thinking of a best of as they would like Jason and Robbie involved for a potential tour but it'd be nice to have the second chapter represented in a greatest hits.

 

It's difficult to think what could be the third single from the album and I wonder if they will still do promo/tour in Europe.

The overwhelming majority of people who bought recent Take That albums are not buying this one. Perceptions of the band has obviously changed for the worse. If there is a next time, after another greatest hits, they will need to come up with something more exciting that will surprise the audience. III is good, but not good enough to overcome the damage to the perception of Take That.

I think they played it too cautious. They should have done the likes of an audience with, or a documentary. I think they wanted to stay out of range of any media backlash.

 

These Days was a great lead though. It got widely positive reviews and became a number 1. If it hadn't the media might have tried to call the comeback a flop. Truth is that although they haven't sold crazy amounts, they still have a number 1 single and platinum album in 4 weeks. I am disappointed the album hasn't done better but it could have done worse!

Edited January 2, 201510 yr by jay727

 

Bond Bug your right, there must have been a sea change in people' s perception of Take That. Gone for 10 years but they returned will excellent sales that continued on for the next two albums and a seemingly loyal fan base. Yes, album sales have fallen and yes Jay's leaving will have had an impact, but it's difficult not to conclude that the financial issue has seriously impacted on their sales and the public's perception of them. I would have bet anything that they would have secured 1 million plus sales in the UK with this album as their 90's albums sold around the million mark.

 

Gary profile in particular has taken a bashing and their mistake was not addressing the issue immediately. They waited far too long to deal with it and the media had a field day and drag the issue up even now. We will never know the true damage caused by the tax matter, but it's fair to say that there has to be some explanation for the considerable drop in their sales and I simply don't believe it's down to their music output alone.

Obviously the perception has changed in some way or people just are not as interested in them as they were. They still managed a great 10 year run since their return and as far as reunions go Take That really pulled it off. Who ever would have thought when we first heard of the release of Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection and the tv interview what was to come. I think most expected the album is do half well, tour sell out on nostalgia grounds (Steps!! style) and then done and dusted. But no, we got such a new catalogue of material, more studio albums than they released first time round,2 excellent and successful live albums, huge selling studio albums, tours, singles and dvds and while the bubble may have burst they have a decent selling number 1 single and an album that is already platinum and has legs left in it yet. I don't think the boys will be too worried.

 

 

 

 

It's true they never could have envisaged the success which followed the documentary, but having happened I think they've loved being the most popular UK act, until Adele came along! They are rightly proud of what they have achieved but I do think that beneath all the smiles they will be disappointed and somewhat surprised with their sales figures for this album.

 

Their reunion worked where others hasn't because , like their music or not, they are talented, songwriting wise and performance wise. Not many people like NMS, quite rightly, but one thing he did was instill a terrific work ethic and this has stuck with them. Other 'bands' ... ID for example, didn't have to work for their success, it simply happened ( and this is evident to anyone who has seen them live) TT worked in clubs up and down the country to get their big break and Gary worked from a teenager. Consequently their performance skills are exceptional and they give all on stage. This stage craft has been a big factor in their success second time around.

 

At the end of the day if the songs are great their albums will benefit so I really hope that Mark and Gary have another song like RTW in them - at this stage I'm hanging on to the belief that somewhere there is that exceptional song to bring them back on track.

I might be the most optimistic one on this forum :) I'm not ready to write the boys off yet and I think they might surprise us soon.

The tax issue has, without a doubt, influenced the public's perception of them, but I think new fans can be gained and old fans can still be persuaded to change their mind.

I insist that the biggest problem this era has been the lack of promotion. If fans really stopped caring, they wouldn't be buying Gary's dvd in such big numbers. Since You Saw Him Last has been no 3 on Amazon since the release and even before that it had a good position.

 

I'm hoping that the 2nd single can create some buzz around the album and boost the sales. That + some solid promotion, like Since I Saw You Last benefitted from.

I really like Get Ready for It and I may be bold in saying this, but to me, it sounds like RTW no 2, if not better. But this is just personal preference.

I might be the most optimistic one on this forum :) I'm not ready to write the boys off yet and I think they might surprise us soon.

The tax issue has, without a doubt, influenced the public's perception of them, but I think new fans can be gained and old fans can still be persuaded to change their mind.

I insist that the biggest problem this era has been the lack of promotion. If fans really stopped caring, they wouldn't be buying Gary's dvd in such big numbers. Since You Saw Him Last has been no 3 on Amazon since the release and even before that it had a good position.

 

Whilst I agree that the tax issue won't make a jot of difference to the old/existing fans (with a few exceptions - myself and sis being two of them :lol:) I disagree that the issue wouldn't be a bar to new fans - I doubt it would endear any new followers. TT are very fortunate with their faithful though - and it will see them through for the next 10 years or so - in much the same way that Cliff Richard fans ensure he has a massive following - and he's into his 70's now!

These Days 8 in the chart - holding up well. Album down to 12- a poor show. It doesn't seem to have much momentum at all which is disappointing.

 

Does anyone know the sales figures for both? I'm guessing that album sales have plummeted as it's January.