nirvanamusic

The certifications are sales started from February 1994 which puts all those artists who released prior to that at a disadvantage when people compare and contrast. Some artists have their full sales accounted but older ones don't.

Ok so on wikipedia any song released prior to Feb 94 would need the shipment cert (physical) along with the issued BPI certification. Thank you.

So are all the BPI certs from Feb 1994 or November 2004 onwards? I'm a little confused by their metrics! Could someone explain it to me?

This always happens around this time of year August/September. Clearly someone is on annual leave and then has to rush through the certifications publically on return.

What do you think we will get instead if they stop touring?

I just wish they would tour more internationally like Westlife do.

From the documentary I would love You're a Superstar, Speak Without Words and Pray (original demo) released. That would be great.

Are they actually going to promote the documentary? I mean properly. Not just the UK, surprise surprise. I would have thought with Netflix putting this on a global platform they would have expected more promotion and foreign interviews from the group. It was made to tell their full story to those outside of the UK who are unfamiliar. It has done well in the places they have toured since their 2005 reunion namely Europe and Australia/New Zealand, Israel. Basically countries who have kept up with them. However, it defeats the purpose if you create something then just let it sit unknown in a vortex which is the case for Asia, Africa, North and South America. No one can hear your story if they don't know you exist. Had this been just on a UK platform fine but Elizabeth Smart has been doing interviews all around the world. As have individuals from all the other new content released. Thoughts? Surely I'm not the only one thinking this.

https://flixpatrol.com/title/take-that/ - Official chart positions. Number 1 (3): Denmark, Ireland, UK. Top 10. (25): Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland. Worldwide: Number 8. Will update when more come in.

I thought the documentary was great. The only thing I would have liked is more time given to them as a three piece and the fact they managed a number 1 with These Days. I will be updating this post from tomorrow when the chart positions start coming in from Flix Patrol. https://flixpatrol.com/ Just glad it is finally out and people around the world get to see this documentary, unlike the previous ones.

The charts elsewhere represent his rash decision to release early. In the UK and Germany it wouldn't be an issue but indeed elsewhere it has split sales and placings. Westlife have just changed their Greatest Hits date from 13th Feb to 8th May due to scheduling conflict. Do we know who they are trying to avoid? It seems like all the older artists are at it now! Genuine question: If an older artist doesn't get a number 1 or top 10 album are they more likely to be dropped? Is that the fear?

In your opinion what do they have to do in order to re-sustain general interest? I would love an album with Robbie purely as that would be interesting and also a new iteration of the band we haven't seen or heard before. The 4 of them.

It is better than I thought it was going to be but like the fans say can't top the original. I think they would have been better off remixing an album track from The Circus instead.

A long-lost Take That track from 1992 called “Falling For You Girl” has been uncovered. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/35097985/take-that-lost-single-best-ever/ This song was apparently recorded as the follow-up to Could It Be Magic, but for some reason it was never released. There’s a petition to get it released: https://chng.it/prBRBLQCG8

Agree 100%. I know Take That sold well for the times and far fewer songs reached Platinum but there are so many of their '90s songs which should be higher than they are. Pray still not being Platinum is the big one for me.

They must surely be above that? In the UK alone they have 28.2 million in combined singles and album sales. They have been succesful across Europe and the whole world at one point in the '90s. Is this figure still correct?

Take That confirmed to perform 'Greatest Day' 2023 remix at the awards show. I think this will be fantastic. https://variety.com/2025/music/news/take-th...rds-1236297629/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/mo...ked-1236127601/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/baftas-2025-je...rform-ceremony/ https://deadline.com/2025/02/bafta-film-awa...bum-1236278679/

I don't think NMS was that bad in general, if I'm honest. I know Robbie had/has issues with him but I don't believe that to be the case for the others. Gary and Mark are on record thanking him for their opportunity. Robbie had it bad at times. However, out of all of them Jason had it by far the worst from NMS.

I watched it and thought it was really good. I have never classed Wham! as a boyband as they were a duo and I always thought there had to be at least three for a boyband group. I'm so glad Chris Porter persisted with Gary to go back to the piano and away from the New Jack Swing and dance routines. 8 number one singles in three years is crazy (93-96), the Spice Girls did 8 in four years (96-00). The Beatles 17 in six years (63-69) Elvis 15 in eight years (57-65) Westlife 14 in seven years (99-06) Boyzone 6 in four years (96-00)

I totally agree with you. Take That disappeared for YEARS before 'This Life' came out in late 2023. Granted Mark and Gary put solo albums out during that time but the team needs to work, day in day out. Nigel was fantastic at this and was always thinking: video/dvd concert releases, co-presenting shows even when they had no single to promote etc, fanzines. Basically keeping touch with their audience internationally. If he could do that in the 90s there is no excuse for not doing so now. In Take That: next steps thread we touched on this and said: Moving forward: Play shows in Africa, South America, and Canada for the first time. If Westlife can do it there in the last 5 years so can TT. Las Vegas residency. (Achieving these would mean all their fans worldwide would have had a chance to see them, and it means they did everything they could to connect with their audience) A joint tour with New Kids on the Block. This has been mentioned over the years by NKOTB. A joint tour with Backstreet Boys and/or a music collaboration. This has been mentioned over the years by BSB. Have an Oscar nominated song. Rule The World was truly robbed that year of a nom and should have gone higher through the shortlist rounds and been nominated. Reintroduce their back catalogue back into the mainstream, most notably through major films and adverts. Backstreet Boys have licensed their music excessively on adverts all around the world. I know Take That do in the UK but it needs to be bigger and broader, 90s songs also. The multiple inclusion in Anora hopefully has shown them the right song in the right film can cause positive word of mouth and streaming. Never Forget, for example, is crying out to be placed in a pivital movie scene. These management teams shop their artists songs to major movie studios in the US. That is how BSB have appeared and had their music in so many films over the past 10-15 years. They showed part of the meetings online. NSYNC likewise. A new original Christmas song to play yearly and become a staple. Continue to release new albums and promote songs. A more creative and engaging online presence including youth platforms, tik tok etc. Backstreet Boys in this week alone (2025) have commerated the anniversary of two tours and put up an iconic boyband dance routine to follow from one of their 90s videos. I would have said a Netflix documentary but that has been confirmed for next year. It would be nice for them to get the footage of them on David Letterman, Today show, MTV USA to remind the US audience of their hit. Plus the fact they were offered a spot on Baywatch, the biggest show in the world at the time. Be like the Americans and remind everyone of all your great stats, music, and achievements. Outstanding contribution to Music Brit Award. This is long overdue. It doesn't help that TT concentrated on just the UK for so long post reunion. That said would their albums have all gone over 2 million plus had attention and travel been elsewhere? It was only once Jason left that they started doing International promotion and tours again, the last 10 years. 11 new countries across Europe and the Middle East and 10 countries reintroduced over 10 years later (if not more) from last touring and promotion there. 21 new or reintroduced nations in the past 10 years. Robbie is fantastic for touring nations and fair play to him. I agree with you about merchandise. Look at Nirvana, they are practically a fashion brand at this point. Different t-shirts everywhere. I often wonder when I see all these shirts worn how anti-commercialism Kurt would have felt about that. With regard to the Beatles website would that just be fans reading those articles? I agree that more need to be produced for Robbie and Take That.

Westlife 23, three away from Oasis. Boyzone at 18 total are closing in on the Spice Girls, 19. One Direction, 17.

That's great, although I can't see any of them getting any more #1 singles. It is all about the album charts now for these groups. The Beatles #1 single Now and Then in 2023 was a one off ''the last Beatles song'' and had a novelty factor aiding it (AI). It's a shame Howard from Take That never released his debut single and album. It had a Latin, part Spanish, and Brazillian instrumentation sound to it, so would have been different to Robbie, Gary and Mark's output at least. However, he decided against it and went further into DJing instead. The advantage the Beatles have is that all the members had solo careers over numerous releases and including some having different bands.

Anora has been nominated for 6 Academy Awards: Best Picture, Director, Best Actress, Supporting Actor, Original Screenplay, Film Editing. I hope Greatest Day 2023 remix is played if any of them win as this is the song with the most traction from the film.

Rick Astley did. I suppose Pink, Hugh Jackman and Zac Efron have obvious ties to Michael but they all publicised the film. I think you are totally right though, I too think it is bizarre there haven't been any shout outs from celebrity friends. I think they all wrote their emails but waited to see what happened.

Unpopular opinion: I have been reading the comments by the Americans, I know I should know better!, but they do raise a good point. If he is this international superstar they have all missed out on, why has the box office been so low overseas? People are tending to struggle to provide an answer to that and a lot of the discourse quietens down after from his fans. Also, I don't agree with the above, in the past the BAFTAs were accused of bias towards British actors/actresses/films winning. However, people will assume this regardless in any country were awards are given to nationals nominated. Everything is a fix to some.