Agreed, the album position is disappointing. Sales will probably be about 10k I would imagine.

 

These Days is doing very well. Approaching 300k now!

It's true they never could have envisaged the success which followed the documentary, but having happened I think they've loved being the most popular UK act, until Adele came along! They are rightly proud of what they have achieved but I do think that beneath all the smiles they will be disappointed and somewhat surprised with their sales figures for this album.

 

Their reunion worked where others hasn't because , like their music or not, they are talented, songwriting wise and performance wise. Not many people like NMS, quite rightly, but one thing he did was instill a terrific work ethic and this has stuck with them. Other 'bands' ... ID for example, didn't have to work for their success, it simply happened ( and this is evident to anyone who has seen them live) TT worked in clubs up and down the country to get their big break and Gary worked from a teenager. Consequently their performance skills are exceptional and they give all on stage. This stage craft has been a big factor in their success second time around.

 

At the end of the day if the songs are great their albums will benefit so I really hope that Mark and Gary have another song like RTW in them - at this stage I'm hanging on to the belief that somewhere there is that exceptional song to bring them back on track.

 

I am confident they will have another Rule The World. Maybe it will be the lead single of their next Greatest Hits. I think they may be tempted to call it a day with this album. Gary Barlow has plenty of other opportunities with solo work and musicals. As they said on their first breakup, they'd want to end on top. But the pressure is on to write a killer song that will say farewell to Take That in style. I think they know what to do.

I would be interested to know how much they sold in the rest of Europe where they chart badly with single and album and if they will really tour there

I'm guessing sales are low in Europe. They have said they'll tour but given sales, if they do I think it will be a very small one and in quite small venues , perhaps 3 or 4 dates at most.

 

Sorry for European TT fans but I would prefer they didn't tour Europe if crowds are poor and venues half full. If they do small venues it could also mean that they don't put on the UK show which will be a big production.

 

It's clear that Rob coming back four years ago hasn't helped them one bit and the success of Progress was obviously due to Rob and not down to any particular interest in TT as a four/three. As soon as Rob left again so did the European fans it seems

These days is having a nice steady chart run and sales are building nicely. I had hoped the album would be top 10 this week so its disappointing, George Ezra sold 72,000 for number 1 so hopefully Take That will have sold a minimum of 10,000 which will bring sales very near to 400,000.

These days is having a nice steady chart run and sales are building nicely. I had hoped the album would be top 10 this week so its disappointing, George Ezra sold 72,000 for number 1 so hopefully Take That will have sold a minimum of 10,000 which will bring sales very near to 400,000.

Since when are European tours dependent on album sales? If that were the case, 90% of the artists wouldn't be touring most of the countries.

Even the most unknown bands can fill a 4000 seats venue in Romania; I'm pretty sure Take That wouldn't have a half full venue. One of my favorite artists is selling basically nothing here album-wise, but sold 2 nights in a row without the slightest problem and loved it so much that she returned to perform here last year. The same for many other singers.

There's just no need for us to buy music when we can get it for free. I only buy TT's albums off Amazon because I'm a hardcore fan and I like to have my collection.

 

As for the album chart position, it's only so low because the albums in top 10 weren't full price. Had III sold for 4-5 pounds as well, it would have probably been in top 5.

 

Sorry Milly - thought that will their popularity dwindling in Europe it would be difficult for them to fill venues as I remember reading somewhere that they struggled to fill venues for their BW tour in Europe. I still think it would be quite sad if their venues are not full, however, the band may think that they want to thank fans and go ahead anyway. If as you say there wouldn't be a problem filling arenas in Romania, I hope you get a chance to see them.

 

Interested to know if TT have ever toured Romania. If so, when?

They have never come to Romania, that's why I was hoping next year would be our chance to finally see them. For most of the fans here it's practically impossible to travel to UK to see them, so we're hanging onto our last hope right now. All this talk about this being their last album and not touring Europe anymore is really depressing for a nuttie like me :P

Artists don't usually have problems filling up venues here, especially international artists, because we regard such concerts as real treats and we get quite excited when they occur.

Edited January 4, 201510 yr by milly

Are concert tickets usually expensive in Romania??I really hope Take That tour there so you get to see them as they are just fantastic to see live.

Are concert tickets usually expensive in Romania??I really hope Take That tour there so you get to see them as they are just fantastic to see live.

 

Yes, they're pretty expensive. It depends, of course, on the artist as well, but they can range from 75 euros to even 200 euros. That may not seem much in UK, but, in Romania, a normal person has around 200 euros salary per month, so a concert ticket is a luxury. TT's album was a luxury too :) That's why I said we get excited about concerts, because it's a challenge to save the money for a ticket and, when we do, we feel like we gave ourselves a real treat.

Edited January 5, 201510 yr by milly

Sales weren't as bad as I was expecting:

 

These Days selling another 34,000 and III selling nearly 19,000

 

So I think These Days is on about 275,000 and III is at 398,000

Edited January 5, 201510 yr by jay727

Sales much better than than I was expecting.

Good to see These Days is #31 this week in Germany, 5 weeks on the chart so far.

Yes finally top 40 which is great as top 40 has more of a presence just like here. Hopefully GRFI will get promo as hot on heels end of this month.

 

Album wise in Europe based on known certified certifications and excluding the UK it reads like this:

 

Greatest Hits: 915,000

Everything Changes: 850,000

Nobody Else: 850,000

Progress: 515,000

Beautiful World: 325,000

The Circus: 135,000

Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection: 45,000

Take That & Party: no minimum certified from other countries.

 

I think the album still has a chance to get to The Circus level maybe by the end of the singles.

Edited January 5, 201510 yr by nirvanamusic

At least these days is starting to move in the right direction on the German charts, I hope its rise continues and that it can help generate album sales.

After my lovely winter break away i return! I am left disappointed in some way of the sales performance of three to date. I did believe its sales would be at least double what they currently stand. That said, it is a wonderful thing to be able to say that the album has sold 400,000 in five weeks which is disappointing, how many acts can say that.

 

In contrast, Coldplay and Paolo Nutini are also known as huge album sellers, from reading the year end sales both these albums have managed under 600,000 sales since their release. While there is no doubting a disconnection between the record buying public and Take That has occurred they are still achieving impressive success. Additionally, These Days has a had a great chart run to date and sales are building to very respectable numbers and lets not forget also topped the charts.

 

Things are starting to look positive in the German market too which is wonderful.

Wednesday Midweek Update:

 

These Days Number 16

Three Number 13

 

I did not foresee the sharp fall for These Days this week as it was top 10 until recently on itunes, streaming is going against it. Three holding up better than i expected, a 1 place drop is not bad considering many of the albums placed higher than it are selling at much cheaper prices.

Sorry Milly - thought that will their popularity dwindling in Europe it would be difficult for them to fill venues as I remember reading somewhere that they struggled to fill venues for their BW tour in Europe. I still think it would be quite sad if their venues are not full, however, the band may think that they want to thank fans and go ahead anyway. If as you say there wouldn't be a problem filling arenas in Romania, I hope you get a chance to see them.

 

Interested to know if TT have ever toured Romania. If so, when?

 

I remember going to a Gary Barlow concert after his second album. It was in Bournemouth. I was about a third of the way from the stage, and it was almost empty behind me. I looked around to calculate the turnout and it was less than 20%. It seemed very sad. His career seemed to be at an end. I never imagined that he would be back bigger than ever before with Take That and with a new solo career. But, no, we don't want Take That to look that sad!

The 12 months 11 days era was just a disaster in so many ways so an empty venue is no surprise,huge shame as its a good album that I still enjoy,as I have said so many times before not having lie to me as the lead single was a catastropic mistake.Lie to me as the lead could have made the fortunes of that era so so different.

 

Three is higher than I thought it would this week,but,the price needs to drop as nearly all the albums about it are selling cheaper.I hope these days falls no further this week.