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The only thing really annoying me right now is the Pike personality overhaul. A little justification would have been fine, but to try and utterly reverse everything we've been made to feel about him (and most of it was totally justified) is a little insulting and really bogs each episode down for me.

Yea they're being rather inconsistent with their character development, especially with Bellamy and Pike :(

 

Thank god Clarke decided to wash her hair though. loving Luna too *.*

Intense pre finale :o

 

Still loving Clarke's bravery and loyalty and what she puts herself through. I've noticed Monty having his shining moments too. Hype for the last epicsode now :w00t:

 

I feel like watching them all again if I had time :lol:

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I need Jasper to die. Thank you.

 

Only thing worse than his weak whiny ass is the annoying Lexa fandom. The amount of bullying they've been doing since her death to the writers, the cast, the fans, the show itself, is just crazy.

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This is a long post so I'm skipping over spoiler tags I'm sorry, don't read if you're not caught up on season 3 :lol:

 

 

I need Jasper to die. Thank you.

 

Only thing worse than his weak whiny ass is the annoying Lexa fandom. The amount of bullying they've been doing since her death to the writers, the cast, the fans, the show itself, is just crazy.

 

erm, that's completely ignorant to categorise a whole group of fans as something, especially when it's about bullying. I'm not saying there's not been bullying, there's always going to be groups of people who take things too far but on the whole the campaigning done by the Lexa/Clexa fandom is incredible and has made an impact, not just to The 100 but other shows too. They've brought the issues of The 100 to the attention of other shows, important people in the industry, sponsors etc and shown that fans deserve better and wont stand to be mistreated, other shows can learn from the mistakes The 100 and their producer have made. Clearly you don't understand why there's been so much backlash, I recommend reading through the post I linked to weeks ago. The main person the fans are angry at is Jason Rothenberg, the show runner because the direction in which the show goes in is ultimately his decision. It's not just a case of 'oh you killed off my fave, I'm not going to watch your show any more'. Jason bated fans, gave them false hope that Clarke and Lexa would be okay and probably end up together. LGBT rep for women is not common and is rarely handled well in shows, the fact that The 100 had a strong lesbian character who was in love with a bisexual girl (there's even less rep for bi girls in mainstream media) and that pairing was the shows central romance essentially, it was special and rare and meant so much to a lot of fans just to be able to see a relationship between such characters. The 100 always prided itself for being different and not afraid to be 'risky', except by killing Lexa in the way they did completely eradicated that as they were entertaining the 'bury your gays' trope. Admittedly I wasn't fully aware that it was a thing but it is, think of any lesbian characters you know of, I'm sure most of them died in a not so nice way or were deprived of long term happiness. Lexa's death was handled poorly, I mean a stray bullet? straight after she and clarke slept together? not very tactful. Even if you aren't affected by the LGBTQ+ issues that it has, if you're a fan of Lexa you're going to be pretty pissed at that alone, she deserved better, to go out in a heroic, memorable way. Her death did nothing but explain a tiny bit more about the chip and cause Clarke pain. It's pretty likely now that Lexa's gone, they're setting Clarke up for a relationship with Bellamy and what does that say about bisexuality for women, that a relationship with a girl is temporary? That you'll end up with a man anyway? Clarke hasn't even been given a chance to grieve for Lexa but look at Bellamy and Jasper, they've been allowed to be total assholes all in the name of being hurt over the loss of girls they loved. You can't even begin to compared Bellamy x Gina and Jasper x Maya with Clarke and Lexa. Why do you think that is? Was a relationship between two women less meaningful or relevant than a hetero one?

 

Honestly I could sit here all day and rant about The 100's wrongdoings, especially regarding Lexa. If anything I've just said has sparked any kind of interest with you then I hope you'd go on and google a bit more about the whole thing as there's so many layers to it and can be better explained by people other than me. Like I said, it's the LGBTQ+ community that's been affected the most but there's also been issues regarding race and even the mistreatment of cast members as I briefly mentioned before with Ricky Whittle, he's been fairly open about his feelings towards Jason on social media so it will be easy enough to find stuff on that as well. Jason hasn't even shown any indication that he regrets what he's done, his open letter was, well <_<... especially when he posted it the day before a big convention appearance, the first one since 307 aired, so it was convenient for it to be published then.

 

I'm sorry, I don't like to rant or come across as an 'annoying Lexa fan', but I've not been this affected by a single character in my whole life and I feel really strongly about it all so I needed to reply with something and I hope I have made you at least reconsider your views.

I need Jasper to die. Thank you.

 

Only thing worse than his weak whiny ass is the annoying Lexa fandom. The amount of bullying they've been doing since her death to the writers, the cast, the fans, the show itself, is just crazy.

M8 you need a lash for every Stan you have just offended :angry:

 

Replying to Mrs. Essays tomoz

I know what the issues are, and being gay myself I know that it is tough when a gay character gets developed and then ends up dead. In "The Originals" they developed Josh/Aiden, only to kill Aiden after they got together, and relegated Josh to grieve offscreen and return the following season as a guest character in a couple of episodes with no storyline. Especially since in the same season, its brother show "The Vampire Diaries" brought twins, one gay one straight, the gay one had no storyline and sacrificed himself for his straight sister near the end. We made our point to the writers, and moved on. Otherwise instead of making your point come across to everyone on why its a problem, you're just nagging people to the point when they wont even want to listen to you and are probably gonna hate the character you're supporting.

 

I did enjoy Lexa, if not Clexa, but I did like how they turned her character around from being intriguing, to being hated, to being adored. But this backlash has been dragging on way too long, especially online which is where you discuss shows, and a lot of her fanbase just doesnt know when to give it a rest. They attack anyone who disagrees with them (show being crap), which I do disagree with them since it still leaves me on the edge of my seat, or anyone who supports Clarke/Bellamy (I normally dont ship but I find them intriguing together, and a bisexual woman with a brown guy is still unusual in TV) to the point when even the actor who plays him is attacked constantly, or who simply is tired of their crusade against everyone who still enjoys the show. You can still make a point without being disrespectful, and I know its not the whole fanbase, it never is in these cases, but I wouldnt say its a minority either. Maybe my point came out a bit too abrasively, but that's just a culmination of weeks at being frustrated at the fanbase.

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I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, you make some good points there and I'm glad that you're aware of a lot more than I initially gave you credit for. I do see a lot of hate for Bob Morley online (mainly Tumblr, fans are crazy there tbh) but that is just the minority of fans who have trouble differentiating actors from their characters, every show has them. Personally I don't like how they've developed Bellamy, I loved him in season two but the way he responded to Clarke leaving, massacring an army that was there to protect them etc was so out of character for him and he is just so full of self pity. I like him and Clarke as a duo, but not romantically, I'm pretty sure their relationship was initially intended to be platonic anyway. The main reason I don't want Clarke to end up with him is mainly because of how it portrays what she had with Lexa. Plus he's a bit of an ass.

 

I agree that the campaigning or whatever has gone on too long but I understand why and I'm kind of glad it has. I'm pretty sure Jason or someone said something along the lines of 'they're just bitter teenagers, they'll get bored and move on eventually', so they're fully expecting the upset fans to just forget about it but if that happens then no lessons have been learnt, few people are aware of the point that's being made and the mistreatment of characters and fans just goes on like a vicious cycle, so they have to keep it all going. I know that a lot of them have been doing things like contacting sponsors, writing letters of complaint to The CW, contacting people in press etc as well as not watching the show live, so things like that will be affecting the show and tbh that is quite a mature/respectable way to go about things, it shows that it's not just 'bitter teenagers' and they have the means and know-how to do some serious damage to the shows rep. It's not all about trending things on twitter and sending hate tweets in Jason's direction. It's not just about getting noticed, it's about making a real difference for future shows. The 100's ratings have been dropping each week, they've lost sponsors etc so it is working. The season finale is next week, I'm sure once it's over all the Lexa stuff will die down too.

We all know she's going to be in next weeks episode and Clarke will reunite with her in the City of Light

so a lot of fans are waiting it out for that before they really give up on the show. It was Jason that spoiled that actually, he tweeted (and has since deleted it after 307) that

Alycia

was filming for the finale in Vancouver at the time :lol:

 

(I should probably say that although I do have strong views on this I'm not participating in any of this hardcore campaigning stuff, the most I've done is talk about it on here but I follow a lot of what's going on via Tumblr etc. Given that I'm not part of the community who's mostly affected, I feel like I shouldn't be so quick to jump on the hate bandwagon, that doesn't mean I don't support what they're doing though)

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While I understood the uproar regarding Lexa's death, I personally took a pragmatic approach to it... having read in advance that Alycia had committed herself to FTWD, her death didn't exactly come out of the blue to me. It was iffy timing in terms of her death occurring immediately after she & Clarke got together, but... what's done is done. When looking back on this season's main arc, her death ultimately did seem necessary for the development of the Flame/A.I. plot. Her involvement in the final episode was a really nice touch, so I hope that provides some of the ardent Lexa fans with some closure.

 

Random mention: What happened to all the mutated and dangerous wild animals this season? :lol: It was initially made out that it was highly dangerous to be walking around in this environment, that the grounders were certainly not the only thing to be concerned about, but recently they've been casually walking around / driving around like there's zero threats in that department. Should I assume budget cuts? :unsure: The inconsistency of that has bothered me ever so slightly. Bring back the giant Gorilla in Season 4 tbh xox

Random mention: What happened to all the mutated and dangerous wild animals this season? :lol: It was initially made out that it was highly dangerous to be walking around in this environment, that the grounders were certainly not the only thing to be concerned about, but recently they've been casually walking around / driving around like there's zero threats in that department. Should I assume budget cuts? :unsure: The inconsistency of that has bothered me ever so slightly. Bring back the giant Gorilla in Season 4 tbh xox

Yes I was wondering this during the first season but with so much going on I forgot about it :lol:

yea there's lots of inconsistencies in the series :rolleyes:

 

idk what to say about the finale other than it caused me to cry A LOT - as expected (I wasn't even sure why for about 90% of it.) I loved Lexa in the City of Light, I knew she'd be in it but I was concerned by just how she would be, could have done with more of her but y'know I'll take it, at least her 'return' slayed and was heroic af, the way her death should have been. The only thing that annoyed me was how they obviously dubbed in Clarke's "I love you" post production, that scene was v messy camera wise, Lexa's reaction wouldn't have been what it was if it was actually said, looking back at 307 we know both actresses would have put more emotion etc into such a scene if it was 'legit'. I imagine she said something like "Won't you die too?" or "I don't want to lose you" initially. Eliza mentioned that there were two versions made, I presume that's what she was referring too.

 

 

They killed her twice :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:

 

Excellent finale :wub: spoilers will now (obviously) follow:

 

Great to see Lexa on the scene again, even if it was just for a few minutes :yahoo: not as chilling as the other finales but it was a great way to end the plot. Shame there's no cliffhanger to introduce the next series, perhaps that's a good thing? :kink:

Shame there's no cliffhanger to introduce the next series, perhaps that's a good thing? :kink:

 

Well there kinda was :lol: it was just introduced in the last 10 mins!

 

Great finale for such a fantastic series and so good to see Clarke take to the forefront of it all.

 

Nathan and Harper to be regulars next series though please!

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Well there kinda was :lol: it was just introduced in the last 10 mins!

 

Great finale for such a fantastic series and so good to see Clarke take to the forefront of it all.

 

Nathan and Harper to be regulars next series though please!

There was something but I wouldn't really call it a "cliffhanger" personally, maybe I should watch the last bit again when it's not when I've just woken up :lol:

tbh I was kinda wishing Clarke gave into Alie and then we could have had a full season in the city of light, brought back old characters etc, It would have been great to actually see Anya/Lexa or Lexa/Costia interacting, same with other deceased characters. They could have based it around them trying to figure out a way to save earth from the CoL if that could have somehow been a thing, I'm guessing next season will be them just trying to figure out away to survive longer than 6 months, basically the same as what happened on The Arc except increasing radiation is the issue rather than decreasing oxygen :lol: Might not even bother attempting to watch the next season, we'll see :kink:

Finally caught up! On the whole I loved it, my biggest gripe is with inconsistencies in character, particularly with Bellamy, Pike, Jasper and even minor characters such as Monroe. That's not to say characters can't change but it should be more natural, Kane changed hugely as a character between the first and second seasons but that was much less forced, as did Murphy, in a different way. It made literally no sense to me for Bellamy to join Pike in the way he did, and Pike himself was ridiculously one dimensional and immune to seeing reason, only to 'change completely' as a new threat arose, and Hannah wasn't developed that well, which was a massive shame since I think she could've had a lot more to offer than being a blind follower of Pike.

 

Absolutely love(d) Indra, Raven, Lincoln, Lexa, Octavia, Murphy*.

 

*What a fantastic character.

 

Heartbreaking seeing

Lexa die mind you, she could've been a great series regular.

 

 

I agree Lotti, It was a good episode as it was very action packed but like they defo went too far with Raven, this season has been pretty unnecessarily gory and triggering in parts. That episode just had too much, Raven's arm thing omfg. I'm not easily phased by dark stories and horrible scenes like this usually but that's when it's not this show. The 100 has always been very fan-centered and considerate of their audience and had characters that are representative for the fans, so for season three to completely disregard all of that, it's hard to continue watching it when most of the things that made it special are being wrecked. I understand a lot of people watching wont relate to it on that level, but still a lot of them do. It's one thing to be out there with the plot lines but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed and a point where it's too far and it hurts the viewers and the shows' reputation. I think Jason Rothenberg has learnt that the hard way.
Well, there is a 15 rating on the series for a reason- isn't that warning enough? Admittedly it wasn't pleasant to witness someone slashing their own arms like that but I was more concerned for the character honestly, and I think it was necessary to show the lengths that A.L.I.E was willing to go to (and to show how cold and uncaring she could be in order to reach her final goal) to get Abby to take the chip, seeing as she was essential in blocking the distribution of the chip and then when forcibly converted, enabling it.

 

If someone thinks that they might be 'triggered' by violence of this kind should they still be watching shows with those kinds of ratings in full knowledge that these kinds of things might happen? Especially one that has shown plenty of violence in the past- including and not limited to severe radiation burns, injections, after effects of mass explosions, surgical drilling, torture, lots of slash wounds, people being beaten to a pulp and people being literally crucified. Sounds harsh, maybe but I think that using what they can within the confines of the rating the show is given is perfectly reasonable. I actually really liked that scene, thought it was very well done, although I was naturally worried for Abby. I absolutely loved Lindsey Morgan's acting in that scene (where Raven was completely under A.L.I.E's control), her mannerisms were spot on, I really did just see her as "ALIE" rather than Raven.

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